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01-23-2007
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| | Re: Database 256 megs Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-23-2007
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| | Re: Database 256 megs I wasn't being critical. Just observing. steve "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message news:eLSbAzyPHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I use Windows Mail for a NNTP client and I recommend it's use for text >newsgroups. That doesn't mean it does everything for everybody. I also use >Forte Agent for a NNTP client for binary newsgroups. Use the tool that fits >the job and the user. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message > news:171A47B6-06A1-4172-B13A-AA193A4E2B7B@microsoft.com... >> That appears to be what the solution is now for Windows Mail issues. >> >> MVPs such as yourself and others are now telling the users to use non-MS >> products for NNTP and mail. Doesn't say much for Microsoft when its MVPs >> are recommending other products rather than those from MS. >> >> steve >> >> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> news:%23jvTGAwPHHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Use a different nntp client. >>> >>> -- >>> Kerry Brown >>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User >>> http://www.vistahelp.ca >>> >>> >>> "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... >>> I have to fix it! >>> It is slowing me down and making me crazy! >>> ??? >>> HELP? >>> >>> -- >>> Dilly >>> itsdilly@comcast.net >>> http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier >>> http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly >>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but >>> people will never forget how you made them feel. >>> >>> >>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message >>> news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... >>> That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. >>> >>> There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed >>> there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields >>> extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> >>> >>> steve >>> >>> "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... >>> OK >>> My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and >>> bodies and headers but its still 256. >>> What can I try? >>> I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the >>> crap over again. >>> Ideas? >>> Jim? >>> Steve? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dilly >>> itsdilly@comcast.net >>> http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier >>> http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly >>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but >>> people will never forget how you made them feel. >>> >>> >> > |
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01-23-2007
| #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: Database 256 megs Jim, She said the size of her database was 250 megabytes. That is nothing for the size of that file. I tested it up to over 4 gigabytes in the beta. Performance sucks because of the way they have the database laid out. steve "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... > Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame > here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" > your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail > filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for > Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to > use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. > > You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your > newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What > exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? > What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. > > Enjoy the snow. > -- > Jim Pickering > MVP-Windows Mail applications > Please reply only to the newsgroup. > > > "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message > news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... > I have to fix it! > It is slowing me down and making me crazy! > ??? > HELP? > > -- > Dilly > itsdilly@comcast.net > http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier > http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly > People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but > people will never forget how you made them feel. > > > "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message > news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... > That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. > > There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there > (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated > from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> > > steve > > "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message > news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... > OK > My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies > and headers but its still 256. > What can I try? > I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap > over again. > Ideas? > Jim? > Steve? > > > -- > Dilly > itsdilly@comcast.net > http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier > http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly > People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but > people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-24-2007
| #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: Database 256 megs That is just silly. It is a bug. My database is normally 50 megs. 4 gigs is insane! If MS wants people to use Vista we have to get the bugs out -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:AB6012F0-B18B-496E-9671-7F73FB9E3295@microsoft.com... You can't fix it. That's how it works now. Its not that slow. Do you have antivirus software set to scan email? That would slow it down. steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-24-2007
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| | Re: Database 256 megs I know it's not the answer you want Dilly, but all I can say is wait until the final RTM program is available. There are some significant changes in the Mail storage capabilities that "should" resolve any problems you are now having. It's only a few days now until release and the "beta" testing is over. Good luck. PS: Sorry the Pats didn't make it to the festivities. "Wait till next year." <G> -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EFD8A906-8C9F-4D7C-AB6B-208401784A60@microsoft.com... Hey Jim!!! Ok For months my database has been about 50 megs. When it goes up to 70 or more I bog down. Like When switching Ng's it hangs etc. So I delete all headers and messages. Database goes back to about 50 megs and all is right with the world. LOL You will love this Last week I decided to check out the New England Patriots NG on my comcast server. It downloaded over 4 thousand headers! Poof my data base is now 270 megs  I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again I did a catch up on every NG I even reset all and then did a catch up on all. I deleted the Pats NG. It is stuck at 270 megs! I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again THIS IS A BUG I even deleted the Pats ng file in the store folder. No we should not expect this. No I wont get used to it. No I will not use another reader. We are running the Beta to find problems before the release. I found one.................. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-24-2007
| #16 (permalink) |
| | Re: Database 256 megs I'm using Virtual Access, or more precisely the Open Source VAOS, off line reader for newsgroups. Works beautifully including threaded messages. http://www.virtual-access.org/ for those intersted. |
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01-24-2007
| #17 (permalink) |
| | Re: Database 256 megs They sure did lose and lose big Oh Well You know what I have to say about that? ARE YOU READY FOR SOME BASEBALL!  I deleted all the files in the message store folder and fixed it! If anyone tries it COPY ALL YOUR MAIL FIRST LOL I only lost a few things nothing I cant replace but its FIXED. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Jim Pickering" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:9580D9A6-BF96-4065-8B4D-2F97C6651F2D@microsoft.com... I know it's not the answer you want Dilly, but all I can say is wait until the final RTM program is available. There are some significant changes in the Mail storage capabilities that "should" resolve any problems you are now having. It's only a few days now until release and the "beta" testing is over. Good luck. PS: Sorry the Pats didn't make it to the festivities. "Wait till next year." <G> -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EFD8A906-8C9F-4D7C-AB6B-208401784A60@microsoft.com... Hey Jim!!! Ok For months my database has been about 50 megs. When it goes up to 70 or more I bog down. Like When switching Ng's it hangs etc. So I delete all headers and messages. Database goes back to about 50 megs and all is right with the world. LOL You will love this Last week I decided to check out the New England Patriots NG on my comcast server. It downloaded over 4 thousand headers! Poof my data base is now 270 megs I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again I did a catch up on every NG I even reset all and then did a catch up on all. I deleted the Pats NG. It is stuck at 270 megs! I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again THIS IS A BUG I even deleted the Pats ng file in the store folder. No we should not expect this. No I wont get used to it. No I will not use another reader. We are running the Beta to find problems before the release. I found one.................. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-24-2007
| #18 (permalink) |
| | Re: Database 256 megs Glad you found a solution that works for you and I'm ready for warmer weather and bring on the "boys of summer." Will probably be in Boston around August since my kid sister is having her 70th birthday so may get to Fenway again. It's been more than 50 years since I last walked over the bridge from Kenmore Sq. to the park. Back then we were always hoping for a series between the Boston Red Sox and the Boston Braves (who used to play at what is now B.U. Field). Enjoy the upcoming spring practice. <G> -- Jim "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:F026D482-0A45-42A8-AF2B-7FC432271F61@microsoft.com... They sure did lose and lose big Oh Well You know what I have to say about that? ARE YOU READY FOR SOME BASEBALL! I deleted all the files in the message store folder and fixed it! If anyone tries it COPY ALL YOUR MAIL FIRST LOL I only lost a few things nothing I cant replace but its FIXED. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Jim Pickering" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:9580D9A6-BF96-4065-8B4D-2F97C6651F2D@microsoft.com... I know it's not the answer you want Dilly, but all I can say is wait until the final RTM program is available. There are some significant changes in the Mail storage capabilities that "should" resolve any problems you are now having. It's only a few days now until release and the "beta" testing is over. Good luck. PS: Sorry the Pats didn't make it to the festivities. "Wait till next year." <G> -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EFD8A906-8C9F-4D7C-AB6B-208401784A60@microsoft.com... Hey Jim!!! Ok For months my database has been about 50 megs. When it goes up to 70 or more I bog down. Like When switching Ng's it hangs etc. So I delete all headers and messages. Database goes back to about 50 megs and all is right with the world. LOL You will love this Last week I decided to check out the New England Patriots NG on my comcast server. It downloaded over 4 thousand headers! Poof my data base is now 270 megs I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again I did a catch up on every NG I even reset all and then did a catch up on all. I deleted the Pats NG. It is stuck at 270 megs! I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again THIS IS A BUG I even deleted the Pats ng file in the store folder. No we should not expect this. No I wont get used to it. No I will not use another reader. We are running the Beta to find problems before the release. I found one.................. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-26-2007
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| | Re: Database 256 megs Did you compact the database after all the deletions? You have to compact it to reduce the size. Its too late now, since you deleted the files, but in the future you can compaction by changing the number of closings of WinMail to 1 under Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance. steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EFD8A906-8C9F-4D7C-AB6B-208401784A60@microsoft.com... Hey Jim!!! Ok For months my database has been about 50 megs. When it goes up to 70 or more I bog down. Like When switching Ng's it hangs etc. So I delete all headers and messages. Database goes back to about 50 megs and all is right with the world. LOL You will love this Last week I decided to check out the New England Patriots NG on my comcast server. It downloaded over 4 thousand headers! Poof my data base is now 270 megs I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again I did a catch up on every NG I even reset all and then did a catch up on all. I deleted the Pats NG. It is stuck at 270 megs! I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again THIS IS A BUG I even deleted the Pats ng file in the store folder. No we should not expect this. No I wont get used to it. No I will not use another reader. We are running the Beta to find problems before the release. I found one.................. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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01-26-2007
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| | Re: Database 256 megs I have it set to 4 permanently. Oh well this version will expire soon and I am not able to spend $$ to buy the retail so it will have to be back to XP for me anyway. Thanks Steve -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:59FEC9BE-84D2-497D-B549-9841229AA8D7@microsoft.com... Did you compact the database after all the deletions? You have to compact it to reduce the size. Its too late now, since you deleted the files, but in the future you can compaction by changing the number of closings of WinMail to 1 under Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance. steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EFD8A906-8C9F-4D7C-AB6B-208401784A60@microsoft.com... Hey Jim!!! Ok For months my database has been about 50 megs. When it goes up to 70 or more I bog down. Like When switching Ng's it hangs etc. So I delete all headers and messages. Database goes back to about 50 megs and all is right with the world. LOL You will love this Last week I decided to check out the New England Patriots NG on my comcast server. It downloaded over 4 thousand headers! Poof my data base is now 270 megs I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again I did a catch up on every NG I even reset all and then did a catch up on all. I deleted the Pats NG. It is stuck at 270 megs! I deleted headers I deleted message bodies I did it again and again and again THIS IS A BUG I even deleted the Pats ng file in the store folder. No we should not expect this. No I wont get used to it. No I will not use another reader. We are running the Beta to find problems before the release. I found one.................. -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "jimpickering@hotmail.com" <jimpickering@noplace.invalid> wrote in message news:89718B50-889C-438B-8A31-BDD24CEE8E04@microsoft.com... Hi Dilly: It sounds like something other than the mail app is to blame here. Have you tried disabling all other programs that may be "touching" your mail, such as antivirus program, spam programs, even the "Junk" mail filter in Windows Mail can be the source, plus not having enough RAM for Vista. Although it is supposed to run with less, I really think trying to use less than 1.5-2 GB of RAM is not productive. You might also want to try using "Windows Mail Live Desktop beta" for your newsgroups and see if that helps. But "slow" is a relative term. What exactly do you mean by it being slow? In what way? Compared to what? What have you tried to fix it? Then we might be able to better help. Enjoy the snow. -- Jim Pickering MVP-Windows Mail applications Please reply only to the newsgroup. "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:C96BA71E-E8D6-43F8-811A-A7292DB20D16@microsoft.com... I have to fix it! It is slowing me down and making me crazy! ??? HELP? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:CAEBDA4F-F079-468A-93E0-D8F8763C8501@microsoft.com... That's normal. Just let it be. It will get even bigger. There is now just one database file and all the messages are listed there (the messages are not stored in the file) and have fields extrapolated from them. It can get over a terabyte if you want. <G> steve "Mildred Savalier" <itsdilly@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message news:EDA29555-6CD7-4161-9CBB-D9D921BBB642@microsoft.com... OK My Database is 256 megs I have compacted deleted read messages and bodies and headers but its still 256. What can I try? I don't want to reset all my ng's and just have to download all the crap over again. Ideas? Jim? Steve? -- Dilly itsdilly@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~itsdilly/ http://community.webshots.com/user/savalier http://www.myspace.com/itsdilly People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. |
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