Vista - Re: Vista POP3 Major Problem - Help MS

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.

steve

"Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
> Hi Mar,
> Found a fix in another post I started.
>
> Need to run:
> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
>
> "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
>
>> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
>> differently in POP3.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few more
>> of
>> larger sizes for you and check.
>>
>> --
>> Mark-Allen Perry
>> 160825 / 1112165
>> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
>> RTM Build 6000.16386
>> ALPHA Systems
>> Marly, Switzerland
>> mark-allen @ mvps . org
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
>> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
>> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have tried
>> > increasing the timeout value also.
>> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no anti-virus
>> > software, firewall disabled etc).
>> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
>> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a mail
>> > with
>> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
>> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs when
>> > you
>> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
>> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
>> > platform.
>> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange errors
>> > or
>> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't blocking
>> > anything.
>> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
>> > code,
>> > have they followed the RFC!!?
>> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about, but
>> > plenty of people are having this problem.
>> >
>> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
>> > Vista
>> > and
>> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
>> >
>> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
>> >
>> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
>> >
>> > Many Thanks
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>>
>>

Hi,

I also switched to Windows Vista recently and since then I've problem
downloading mail off the POP3 server of my DSL internet provider (Tiscali in
Italy). Whenever I open Windows Mail, the client can correctly detect the
number of new messages available on my POP3 account but then it will be
unable to download them and display only a time-out error notice.
Now... I've just read the solution here below, but it's not clear if this
command shoud be run by me on my workstation, or of it should be used by the
internet provider in order to adjust the configuration of their servers so to
eliminate compatibility issues with clients running under Windows Vista.

Please clarify... it could be the solution to all my problems!!! I was
almost going to rol back to Windows XP!

Thank you very much in advance,
Marco


> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Mar,
> > Found a fix in another post I started.
> >
> > Need to run:
> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
> >
> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
> >

Matt & Steve Cockran, you mentioned to this person who is having problems
with their MS Outlook (timing out when checking mail IN/OUT)
you told them to:
Need to run:
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

Please help me as I don't quite understand where I am to run that?

Thanks, Rebecca

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>
> steve
>
> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Mar,
> > Found a fix in another post I started.
> >
> > Need to run:
> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
> >
> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
> >
> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
> >
> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
> >> differently in POP3.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few more
> >> of
> >> larger sizes for you and check.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark-Allen Perry
> >> 160825 / 1112165
> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
> >> ALPHA Systems
> >> Marly, Switzerland
> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have tried
> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no anti-virus
> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a mail
> >> > with
> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs when
> >> > you
> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
> >> > platform.
> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange errors
> >> > or
> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't blocking
> >> > anything.
> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
> >> > code,
> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about, but
> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
> >> >
> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
> >> > Vista
> >> > and
> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
> >> >
> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
> >> >
> >> > Many Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------
> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> > "I
> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> > this
> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> > then
> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >
> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
> >>
> >>
>

Start/all programs/accessories/run


"Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:36BF90E4-8023-4987-A759-07303D90DC1D@microsoft.com...
> Matt & Steve Cockran, you mentioned to this person who is having problems
> with their MS Outlook (timing out when checking mail IN/OUT)
> you told them to:
> Need to run:
> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Please help me as I don't quite understand where I am to run that?
>
> Thanks, Rebecca
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Mar,
>> > Found a fix in another post I started.
>> >
>> > Need to run:
>> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>> >
>> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
>> >
>> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
>> >> differently in POP3.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few
>> >> more
>> >> of
>> >> larger sizes for you and check.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mark-Allen Perry
>> >> 160825 / 1112165
>> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
>> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
>> >> ALPHA Systems
>> >> Marly, Switzerland
>> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
>> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
>> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have
>> >> > tried
>> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
>> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no
>> >> > anti-virus
>> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
>> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
>> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a
>> >> > mail
>> >> > with
>> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
>> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs
>> >> > when
>> >> > you
>> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
>> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
>> >> > platform.
>> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange
>> >> > errors
>> >> > or
>> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't
>> >> > blocking
>> >> > anything.
>> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
>> >> > code,
>> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
>> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about,
>> >> > but
>> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > and
>> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
>> >> >
>> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Matt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------
>> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> >> > the
>> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> > the
>> >> > "I
>> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> > follow
>> >> > this
>> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> > and
>> >> > then
>> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>> >>
>> >>
>>

"Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:36BF90E4-8023-4987-A759-07303D90DC1D@microsoft.com...
> Matt & Steve Cockran, you mentioned to this person who is having problems
> with their MS Outlook (timing out when checking mail IN/OUT)
> you told them to:
> Need to run:
> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Please help me as I don't quite understand where I am to run that?


WinKey-R

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

Well Guys.... I've been working on this 'timing out' email problem for 3
days. I've done EVERYTHING to figure it out. Nothing seems to work that I've
tried. Even the mail program that comes with VISTA times out. Just ONCE I've
rec'd mail in the VISTA mail, and every single time thereafter, it TIMES OUT.
Any new suggestions?

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>
> steve
>
> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Mar,
> > Found a fix in another post I started.
> >
> > Need to run:
> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
> >
> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
> >
> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
> >
> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
> >> differently in POP3.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few more
> >> of
> >> larger sizes for you and check.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark-Allen Perry
> >> 160825 / 1112165
> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
> >> ALPHA Systems
> >> Marly, Switzerland
> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have tried
> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no anti-virus
> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a mail
> >> > with
> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs when
> >> > you
> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
> >> > platform.
> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange errors
> >> > or
> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't blocking
> >> > anything.
> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
> >> > code,
> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about, but
> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
> >> >
> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
> >> > Vista
> >> > and
> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
> >> >
> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
> >> >
> >> > Many Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------
> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> > "I
> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> > this
> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> > then
> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >
> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
> >>
> >>
>

Run a command prompt as Administrator and paste this into the box:

netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

steve

"Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EABB7C91-6318-40F1-BD6D-473D207A5CEB@microsoft.com...
> Well Guys.... I've been working on this 'timing out' email problem for 3
> days. I've done EVERYTHING to figure it out. Nothing seems to work that
> I've
> tried. Even the mail program that comes with VISTA times out. Just ONCE
> I've
> rec'd mail in the VISTA mail, and every single time thereafter, it TIMES
> OUT.
> Any new suggestions?
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Mar,
>> > Found a fix in another post I started.
>> >
>> > Need to run:
>> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>> >
>> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
>> >
>> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
>> >> differently in POP3.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few
>> >> more
>> >> of
>> >> larger sizes for you and check.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mark-Allen Perry
>> >> 160825 / 1112165
>> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
>> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
>> >> ALPHA Systems
>> >> Marly, Switzerland
>> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
>> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
>> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have
>> >> > tried
>> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
>> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no
>> >> > anti-virus
>> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
>> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
>> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a
>> >> > mail
>> >> > with
>> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
>> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs
>> >> > when
>> >> > you
>> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
>> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
>> >> > platform.
>> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange
>> >> > errors
>> >> > or
>> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't
>> >> > blocking
>> >> > anything.
>> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
>> >> > code,
>> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
>> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about,
>> >> > but
>> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > and
>> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
>> >> >
>> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Matt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------
>> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> >> > the
>> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> > the
>> >> > "I
>> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> > follow
>> >> > this
>> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> > and
>> >> > then
>> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>> >>
>> >>
>>

Steve-

I tried that and it's still not working... Any other ideas??

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Run a command prompt as Administrator and paste this into the box:
>
> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> steve
>
> "Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EABB7C91-6318-40F1-BD6D-473D207A5CEB@microsoft.com...
> > Well Guys.... I've been working on this 'timing out' email problem for 3
> > days. I've done EVERYTHING to figure it out. Nothing seems to work that
> > I've
> > tried. Even the mail program that comes with VISTA times out. Just ONCE
> > I've
> > rec'd mail in the VISTA mail, and every single time thereafter, it TIMES
> > OUT.
> > Any new suggestions?
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Mar,
> >> > Found a fix in another post I started.
> >> >
> >> > Need to run:
> >> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
> >> >
> >> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that worked!!
> >> >
> >> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
> >> >> differently in POP3.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few
> >> >> more
> >> >> of
> >> >> larger sizes for you and check.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mark-Allen Perry
> >> >> 160825 / 1112165
> >> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
> >> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
> >> >> ALPHA Systems
> >> >> Marly, Switzerland
> >> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
> >> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails or
> >> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have
> >> >> > tried
> >> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
> >> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no
> >> >> > anti-virus
> >> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
> >> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook 2003,
> >> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is a
> >> >> > mail
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
> >> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
> >> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
> >> >> > platform.
> >> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange
> >> >> > errors
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't
> >> >> > blocking
> >> >> > anything.
> >> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the pop3
> >> >> > code,
> >> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
> >> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site about,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to use
> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Matt
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----------------
> >> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > "I
> >> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> >> >> > follow
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > then
> >> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

nope. Sorry.

steve

"Heidi" <Heidi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFAE8599-222E-4B24-A8C7-A528105281AA@microsoft.com...
> Steve-
>
> I tried that and it's still not working... Any other ideas??
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Run a command prompt as Administrator and paste this into the box:
>>
>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EABB7C91-6318-40F1-BD6D-473D207A5CEB@microsoft.com...
>> > Well Guys.... I've been working on this 'timing out' email problem for
>> > 3
>> > days. I've done EVERYTHING to figure it out. Nothing seems to work that
>> > I've
>> > tried. Even the mail program that comes with VISTA times out. Just ONCE
>> > I've
>> > rec'd mail in the VISTA mail, and every single time thereafter, it
>> > TIMES
>> > OUT.
>> > Any new suggestions?
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Mar,
>> >> > Found a fix in another post I started.
>> >> >
>> >> > Need to run:
>> >> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>> >> >
>> >> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that
>> >> > worked!!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
>> >> >> differently in POP3.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> larger sizes for you and check.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mark-Allen Perry
>> >> >> 160825 / 1112165
>> >> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
>> >> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
>> >> >> ALPHA Systems
>> >> >> Marly, Switzerland
>> >> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
>> >> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have
>> >> >> > tried
>> >> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
>> >> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no
>> >> >> > anti-virus
>> >> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
>> >> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook
>> >> >> > 2003,
>> >> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > mail
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
>> >> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs
>> >> >> > when
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
>> >> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
>> >> >> > platform.
>> >> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange
>> >> >> > errors
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't
>> >> >> > blocking
>> >> >> > anything.
>> >> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the
>> >> >> > pop3
>> >> >> > code,
>> >> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
>> >> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site
>> >> >> > about,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to
>> >> >> > use
>> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Matt
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----------------
>> >> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > "I
>> >> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> >> > follow
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > then
>> >> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

Reboot your computer after running that command.

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"Heidi" <Heidi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFAE8599-222E-4B24-A8C7-A528105281AA@microsoft.com...
> Steve-
>
> I tried that and it's still not working... Any other ideas??
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Run a command prompt as Administrator and paste this into the box:
>>
>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Rebecca" <Rebecca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EABB7C91-6318-40F1-BD6D-473D207A5CEB@microsoft.com...
>> > Well Guys.... I've been working on this 'timing out' email problem for
>> > 3
>> > days. I've done EVERYTHING to figure it out. Nothing seems to work that
>> > I've
>> > tried. Even the mail program that comes with VISTA times out. Just ONCE
>> > I've
>> > rec'd mail in the VISTA mail, and every single time thereafter, it
>> > TIMES
>> > OUT.
>> > Any new suggestions?
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the feedback. Maybe that will help some others.
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8F6D0F15-9F6B-4829-8A6C-4B701F80F299@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Mar,
>> >> > Found a fix in another post I started.
>> >> >
>> >> > Need to run:
>> >> > netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>> >> >
>> >> > This fixes the problem...good old MS for changing things that
>> >> > worked!!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mark-Allen [160825]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> What size emails and what size attachments? Note they are handled
>> >> >> differently in POP3.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've done some almost 10MB and had no problems. But could do a few
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> larger sizes for you and check.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mark-Allen Perry
>> >> >> 160825 / 1112165
>> >> >> Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
>> >> >> RTM Build 6000.16386
>> >> >> ALPHA Systems
>> >> >> Marly, Switzerland
>> >> >> mark-allen @ mvps . org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Matt_Gsy" <MattGsy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:3D2157C7-327A-4F5A-8A99-B7BB91286EA3@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> > We are having a major problem with POP3 in Vista. We are an ISP.
>> >> >> > Vista does not download mail using pop3 if there are large mails
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > attachments. Vista just states the server has timed out, we have
>> >> >> > tried
>> >> >> > increasing the timeout value also.
>> >> >> > We have installed a brand new installation of vista (with no
>> >> >> > anti-virus
>> >> >> > software, firewall disabled etc).
>> >> >> > When we try to download mail using pop3 (windows mail, outlook
>> >> >> > 2003,
>> >> >> > thunderbird) from our mail server it just times out, if there is
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > mail
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > an attachment or large email in the inbox.
>> >> >> > I've tried using RAW telnet commands to connect and it just hangs
>> >> >> > when
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > try to retrieve a message with attachments or large emails.
>> >> >> > Every other OS/mail client combination works fine with our mail
>> >> >> > platform.
>> >> >> > I have checked our external firewalls and cannot see any strange
>> >> >> > errors
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > port usage. Just shows as pop3 connecting, the firewall isn't
>> >> >> > blocking
>> >> >> > anything.
>> >> >> > This is obviously a problem with Vista and how MS have used the
>> >> >> > pop3
>> >> >> > code,
>> >> >> > have they followed the RFC!!?
>> >> >> > MS need to fix this but I can't find anything on their site
>> >> >> > about,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > plenty of people are having this problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is extremely frustrating as our customers are starting to
>> >> >> > use
>> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > we cannot do anything to help them!!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They assume it is our fault, which it is not.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone has a fix or suggestions please can you share them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Matt
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----------------
>> >> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > "I
>> >> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> >> > follow
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > then
>> >> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>