Vista - Windows Mail, how to make it not remember the last post?

This is kinda hard to explain, but...

When reading newsgroups with the new Windows Mail, if I close it, and then
go back to it later, when I open newsgroups, it jumps straight to about
where the last message was that I read, and loads the new messages above and
below where it "lands" at.

In previous versions (OE and the old Windows Internet Mail and News), it
would load the newsgroup messages and keep the list at the top.

Does anyone know how to make Windows Mail not jump down the list of messages
when viewing newsgroups?

"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:6D74A858-58CA-4B8F-A18C-2A4E0799EFAC@microsoft.com...
> This is kinda hard to explain, but...
>
> When reading newsgroups with the new Windows Mail, if I close it, and then
> go back to it later, when I open newsgroups, it jumps straight to about
> where the last message was that I read, and loads the new messages above
> and below where it "lands" at.
>
> In previous versions (OE and the old Windows Internet Mail and News), it
> would load the newsgroup messages and keep the list at the top.
>
> Does anyone know how to make Windows Mail not jump down the list of
> messages when viewing newsgroups?
>

Unfortunately there's no way to do that. I wish there were.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

No. This is one of the things the beta testers complained about,
but MS never fixed it.

Gary VanderMolen


"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message news:6D74A858-58CA-4B8F-A18C-2A4E0799EFAC@microsoft.com...
> This is kinda hard to explain, but...
>
> When reading newsgroups with the new Windows Mail, if I close it, and then
> go back to it later, when I open newsgroups, it jumps straight to about
> where the last message was that I read, and loads the new messages above and
> below where it "lands" at.
>
> In previous versions (OE and the old Windows Internet Mail and News), it
> would load the newsgroup messages and keep the list at the top.
>
> Does anyone know how to make Windows Mail not jump down the list of messages
> when viewing newsgroups?

Their opinion was there was nothing to fix.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eDtyrWhWHHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> No. This is one of the things the beta testers complained about,
> but MS never fixed it.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:6D74A858-58CA-4B8F-A18C-2A4E0799EFAC@microsoft.com...
>> This is kinda hard to explain, but...
>>
>> When reading newsgroups with the new Windows Mail, if I close it, and
>> then go back to it later, when I open newsgroups, it jumps straight to
>> about where the last message was that I read, and loads the new messages
>> above and below where it "lands" at.
>>
>> In previous versions (OE and the old Windows Internet Mail and News), it
>> would load the newsgroup messages and keep the list at the top.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to make Windows Mail not jump down the list of
>> messages when viewing newsgroups?
>

who's opinion was that there was "nothing to fix"??

its a new "feature" that was added - some may find it annoying (such as
me!). why couldn't Microsoft add a toggle for it??


"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:6A467FF8-04B8-4782-8465-15C1BB6938DC@microsoft.com...
> Their opinion was there was nothing to fix.
>
> steve
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eDtyrWhWHHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> No. This is one of the things the beta testers complained about,
>> but MS never fixed it.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>

"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:F4745F18-4879-42BA-81A3-558F8F603270@microsoft.com...
> who's opinion was that there was "nothing to fix"??
>
> its a new "feature" that was added - some may find it annoying (such as
> me!). why couldn't Microsoft add a toggle for it??
>
>

Apparently the developers and managers since it was never fixed to be what
it was in OE, but then a lot of things ended up like that.

Why didn't they do a lot of things they didn't or did do. Maybe the focus
groups didn't understand or thought it was cool. Who knows.... I know some
they didn't listen to very well.

They don't have the budget to cater to users' requests.

steve

"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:F4745F18-4879-42BA-81A3-558F8F603270@microsoft.com...
> who's opinion was that there was "nothing to fix"??
>
> its a new "feature" that was added - some may find it annoying (such as
> me!). why couldn't Microsoft add a toggle for it??
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:6A467FF8-04B8-4782-8465-15C1BB6938DC@microsoft.com...
>> Their opinion was there was nothing to fix.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eDtyrWhWHHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> No. This is one of the things the beta testers complained about,
>>> but MS never fixed it.
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>

but they had the budget to cater to *someone's* request that it be changed?

when a feature works fine, and was changed for NO apparent reason - saying
its not in the budget to correct it seems like a weird excuse.



"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:B3A65241-D371-4AE9-8CE4-AEF01D01934B@microsoft.com...
> They don't have the budget to cater to users' requests.
>
> steve
>
> "Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:F4745F18-4879-42BA-81A3-558F8F603270@microsoft.com...
>> who's opinion was that there was "nothing to fix"??
>>
>> its a new "feature" that was added - some may find it annoying (such as
>> me!). why couldn't Microsoft add a toggle for it??
>>
>>

I wasn't excusing it. Many beta users complained about it and they refused
to put in a toggle, even though I suggested it.

My point was they don't care about what the user wants. The features are
downward driven not driven by what has been requested by the users for over
9 years. They ignore those requests.

I'm not excusing any of this mess.

steve

"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:221054A0-DC59-430C-9269-2F382723C03C@microsoft.com...
> but they had the budget to cater to *someone's* request that it be
> changed?
>
> when a feature works fine, and was changed for NO apparent reason - saying
> its not in the budget to correct it seems like a weird excuse.
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:B3A65241-D371-4AE9-8CE4-AEF01D01934B@microsoft.com...
>> They don't have the budget to cater to users' requests.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:F4745F18-4879-42BA-81A3-558F8F603270@microsoft.com...
>>> who's opinion was that there was "nothing to fix"??
>>>
>>> its a new "feature" that was added - some may find it annoying (such as
>>> me!). why couldn't Microsoft add a toggle for it??
>>>
>>>
>

"Xenomorph" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:221054A0-DC59-430C-9269-2F382723C03C@microsoft.com...
> but they had the budget to cater to *someone's* request that it be
> changed?
>
> when a feature works fine, and was changed for NO apparent reason - saying
> its not in the budget to correct it seems like a weird excuse.
>
>

focus groups.

You know, the people that rarely know anything but are willing to tell you
all you want to hear about what they like.