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Old 03-17-2007   #21 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

If you get an error message about Communities while using the
news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
message rating features."

Gary VanderMolen

"David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
> Gary,
>
> We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and connecting
> to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an alternative
> interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The problem is
> that what we DO use is broken.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
>> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
>> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
>> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
>> >
>> > "vanilla" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to establish a Secure
>> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from within
>> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing around where
>> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since this appears
>> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log for News and
>> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using Search, even
>> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do not recognize.
>> >>
>> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in Internet
>> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
>> >>
>> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
>> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
>> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
>> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
>> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
>> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.

>>



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Old 03-18-2007   #22 (permalink)
jimrx4


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

It works!

Gotta ask: "How did you ever discover this?" It won't hut my feelings if
you don't answer this.

Thanks

jimrx4

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> If you get an error message about Communities while using the
> news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
> message rating features."
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
> > Gary,
> >
> > We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and connecting
> > to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an alternative
> > interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The problem is
> > that what we DO use is broken.
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
> >> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
> >> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
> >> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
> >> >
> >> > "vanilla" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to establish a Secure
> >> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from within
> >> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing around where
> >> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since this appears
> >> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log for News and
> >> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using Search, even
> >> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do not recognize.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in Internet
> >> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
> >> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
> >> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
> >> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
> >> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
> >> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
> >>

>
>

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Old 03-18-2007   #23 (permalink)
Mike Bernstein


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

It worked for me too.

Mike Bernstein

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:O$MkeZNaHHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If you get an error message about Communities while using the
> news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
> message rating features."
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
>> Gary,
>>
>> We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and
>> connecting
>> to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an
>> alternative
>> interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The
>> problem is
>> that what we DO use is broken.
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>
>>> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
>>> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
>>> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
>>> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
>>> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
>>> >
>>> > "vanilla" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to establish
>>> >> a Secure
>>> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from
>>> >> within
>>> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing
>>> >> around where
>>> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since this
>>> >> appears
>>> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log for
>>> >> News and
>>> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using
>>> >> Search, even
>>> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do not
>>> >> recognize.
>>> >>
>>> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in
>>> >> Internet
>>> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck
>>> >> > on one of
>>> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>> >> > "Windows Mail
>>> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time.
>>> >> > Please try
>>> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been
>>> >> > going on for
>>> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
>>> >> > message?
>>> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>>

>


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Old 03-18-2007   #24 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

When I get a new program, I like to explore all the menu options.
I'm naturally curious. But it helps that I've been deeply involved
with troubleshooting personal computers for 22 years, so I
understand all the 'geek' terminology. I subscribe to all the
online technical newsletters, and do extensive beta testing for
Microsoft.

Gary VanderMolen

"jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9DF083B9-6E48-434D-928A-715286F0F394@microsoft.com...
> It works!
>
> Gotta ask: "How did you ever discover this?" It won't hut my feelings if
> you don't answer this.
>
> Thanks
>
> jimrx4
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> If you get an error message about Communities while using the
>> news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
>> message rating features."
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary,
>> >
>> > We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and connecting
>> > to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an alternative
>> > interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The problem is
>> > that what we DO use is broken.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
>> >> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
>> >> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
>> >> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
>> >> >
>> >> > "vanilla" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to establish a Secure
>> >> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from within
>> >> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing around where
>> >> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since this appears
>> >> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log for News and
>> >> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using Search, even
>> >> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do not recognize.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in Internet
>> >> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
>> >> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
>> >> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
>> >> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
>> >> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
>> >> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>> >>

>>
>>

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Old 03-18-2007   #25 (permalink)
Jon Davis


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

Windows Mail is apparently intermixing NNTP (newsgroup) functionality with
XML Web Services to fetch community metadata like "[QUESTION]/answer/comment"
or author information associated with a particular newsgroup post.

It seems that while the NTTP service is running, the community metadata web
service is down. And from what I can tell, there's nothing we can do in the
client to disable the community metadata crap, so we have to suffer through
these ANNOYING ERROR MESSAGES!!! :-/

Jon


"Dave" wrote:

> well, mine works... that's how I'm reading these posts...
>
> is your server set to msnews.microsoft.com
> Tools - Accounts - News - Properties - server
>
> no logon is required
>
>
> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FA68DB5D-7798-49AD-8E87-1A4C622A4057@microsoft.com...
> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one
> > of
> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows
> > Mail
> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on
> > for
> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
> > message?
> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.

>
>

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Old 03-18-2007   #26 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

You can easily turn the Communities stuff off:
Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating features."

Gary VanderMolen

"Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message news:4936CA5E-D4FE-43AE-9BDC-B530E3B1A80E@microsoft.com...
> Windows Mail is apparently intermixing NNTP (newsgroup) functionality with
> XML Web Services to fetch community metadata like "[QUESTION]/answer/comment"
> or author information associated with a particular newsgroup post.
>
> It seems that while the NTTP service is running, the community metadata web
> service is down. And from what I can tell, there's nothing we can do in the
> client to disable the community metadata crap, so we have to suffer through
> these ANNOYING ERROR MESSAGES!!! :-/
>
> Jon
>
>
> "Dave" wrote:
>
>> well, mine works... that's how I'm reading these posts...
>>
>> is your server set to msnews.microsoft.com
>> Tools - Accounts - News - Properties - server
>>
>> no logon is required
>>
>>
>> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FA68DB5D-7798-49AD-8E87-1A4C622A4057@microsoft.com...
>> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one
>> > of
>> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows
>> > Mail
>> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
>> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on
>> > for
>> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
>> > message?
>> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.

>>
>>

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Old 03-19-2007   #27 (permalink)
-Draino-


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

Gary,

Get a clue will you, stop posting how we can turn communities OFF. WE KNOW
HOW TO DO THAT. We are looking for a fix to the problem, not how to AVOID
the problem.


D




"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:ev54tWcaHHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> You can easily turn the Communities stuff off:
> Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating features."
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message
> news:4936CA5E-D4FE-43AE-9BDC-B530E3B1A80E@microsoft.com...
>> Windows Mail is apparently intermixing NNTP (newsgroup) functionality
>> with XML Web Services to fetch community metadata like
>> "[QUESTION]/answer/comment" or author information associated with a
>> particular newsgroup post.
>>
>> It seems that while the NTTP service is running, the community metadata
>> web service is down. And from what I can tell, there's nothing we can do
>> in the client to disable the community metadata crap, so we have to
>> suffer through these ANNOYING ERROR MESSAGES!!! :-/ Jon
>>
>>
>> "Dave" wrote:
>>
>>> well, mine works... that's how I'm reading these posts...
>>>
>>> is your server set to msnews.microsoft.com
>>> Tools - Accounts - News - Properties - server
>>>
>>> no logon is required
>>>
>>>
>>> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FA68DB5D-7798-49AD-8E87-1A4C622A4057@microsoft.com...
>>> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on
>>> > one of
>>> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>> > "Windows Mail
>>> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please
>>> > try
>>> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going
>>> > on for
>>> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
>>> > message?
>>> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>>

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Old 03-19-2007   #28 (permalink)
-Draino-


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

Gary,

Please............We are looking for a fix, not a way to avoid the problem.
You would think that with 22 years of so called experience would have
learned how to read.

D


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eIkoEObaHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> When I get a new program, I like to explore all the menu options.
> I'm naturally curious. But it helps that I've been deeply involved
> with troubleshooting personal computers for 22 years, so I
> understand all the 'geek' terminology. I subscribe to all the
> online technical newsletters, and do extensive beta testing for
> Microsoft.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9DF083B9-6E48-434D-928A-715286F0F394@microsoft.com...
>> It works! Gotta ask: "How did you ever discover this?" It won't hut my
>> feelings if you don't answer this.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> jimrx4
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>
>>> If you get an error message about Communities while using the
>>> news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
>>> message rating features."
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>> "David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
>>> > Gary,
>>> >
>>> > We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and
>>> > connecting
>>> > to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an
>>> > alternative
>>> > interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The
>>> > problem is
>>> > that what we DO use is broken.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
>>> >> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
>>> >>
>>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>>> >>
>>> >> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
>>> >> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
>>> >> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "vanilla" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to
>>> >> >> establish a Secure
>>> >> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from
>>> >> >> within
>>> >> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing
>>> >> >> around where
>>> >> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since
>>> >> >> this appears
>>> >> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log
>>> >> >> for News and
>>> >> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using
>>> >> >> Search, even
>>> >> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do
>>> >> >> not recognize.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in
>>> >> >> Internet
>>> >> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and
>>> >> >> > cleck on one of
>>> >> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>> >> >> > "Windows Mail
>>> >> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time.
>>> >> >> > Please try
>>> >> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been
>>> >> >> > going on for
>>> >> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive
>>> >> >> > this message?
>>> >> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>> >>
>>>

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Old 03-19-2007   #29 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

I don't see you posting how to "fix" the problem. At least I'm
doing something useful. Several people have written me back,
thanking me for advising how to turn off that nuisance error message.

If you had any background in NNTP you'd know that the error is a server
issue that CANNOT be fixed from the user end.

These newsgroups are perfectly usable, as they always were, before
Microsoft decided to add the flaky Communities feature.

Gary VanderMolen

"-Draino-" <guest@unknown.com> wrote in message news:E8DAD224-9F9A-439B-82CB-89EB46828C3D@microsoft.com...
> Gary,
>
> Get a clue will you, stop posting how we can turn communities OFF. WE KNOW
> HOW TO DO THAT. We are looking for a fix to the problem, not how to AVOID
> the problem.
>
>
> D
>
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ev54tWcaHHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> You can easily turn the Communities stuff off:
>> Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating features."
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message
>> news:4936CA5E-D4FE-43AE-9BDC-B530E3B1A80E@microsoft.com...
>>> Windows Mail is apparently intermixing NNTP (newsgroup) functionality
>>> with XML Web Services to fetch community metadata like
>>> "[QUESTION]/answer/comment" or author information associated with a
>>> particular newsgroup post.
>>>
>>> It seems that while the NTTP service is running, the community metadata
>>> web service is down. And from what I can tell, there's nothing we can do
>>> in the client to disable the community metadata crap, so we have to
>>> suffer through these ANNOYING ERROR MESSAGES!!! :-/ Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave" wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, mine works... that's how I'm reading these posts...
>>>>
>>>> is your server set to msnews.microsoft.com
>>>> Tools - Accounts - News - Properties - server
>>>>
>>>> no logon is required
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FA68DB5D-7798-49AD-8E87-1A4C622A4057@microsoft.com...
>>>> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on
>>>> > one of
>>>> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>>> > "Windows Mail
>>>> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please
>>>> > try
>>>> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going
>>>> > on for
>>>> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
>>>> > message?
>>>> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-19-2007   #30 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Microsoft Communities

At least I'm doing something useful. Several people have written me back,
thanking me for advising how to turn off that nuisance error message.

If you had any background in NNTP you'd know that the error is a server
issue that CANNOT be fixed from the user end.

These newsgroups are perfectly usable, as they always were, before
Microsoft decided to add the flaky Communities feature.

Gary VanderMolen

"-Draino-" <guest@unknown.com> wrote in message news:O0LMd7iaHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
>
> Please............We are looking for a fix, not a way to avoid the problem.
> You would think that with 22 years of so called experience would have
> learned how to read.
>
> D
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eIkoEObaHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> When I get a new program, I like to explore all the menu options.
>> I'm naturally curious. But it helps that I've been deeply involved
>> with troubleshooting personal computers for 22 years, so I
>> understand all the 'geek' terminology. I subscribe to all the
>> online technical newsletters, and do extensive beta testing for
>> Microsoft.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "jimrx4" <jimrx4@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9DF083B9-6E48-434D-928A-715286F0F394@microsoft.com...
>>> It works! Gotta ask: "How did you ever discover this?" It won't hut my
>>> feelings if you don't answer this.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> jimrx4
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you get an error message about Communities while using the
>>>> news server, go to Tools, Options, uncheck "Use newsgroup
>>>> message rating features."
>>>>
>>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>>
>>>> "David A. Lessnau" <DavidALessnau@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:98A717AB-46BD-4225-9C46-E2036B6FA53A@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Gary,
>>>> >
>>>> > We are. Or, at least I am. I'm using Vista's Windows Mail and
>>>> > connecting
>>>> > to msnews.microsoft.com. Also, though your suggestion to us an
>>>> > alternative
>>>> > interace is helpful, the issue isn't what we do or don't use. The
>>>> > problem is
>>>> > that what we DO use is broken.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Don't use the crappy web-based Communities.
>>>> >> Use the news server msnews.microsoft.com.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "JimmyB7" <JimmyB7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:594DE985-76B5-4F10-8329-72A15FD07621@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> > I'm having the same problem with no luck fixing it yet.
>>>> >> > It could be the Vista Firewall settings as this site implies:
>>>> >> > http://dozleng.com/internetsecurity/?p=133
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "vanilla" wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> I have noticed this morning that Windows Mail is unable to
>>>> >> >> establish a Secure
>>>> >> >> Socket Layer using port 80 to login to Microsoft Communities from
>>>> >> >> within
>>>> >> >> Windows Mail. At first, I thought it was something I did messing
>>>> >> >> around where
>>>> >> >> I probably should not be until I know what I am doing, but since
>>>> >> >> this appears
>>>> >> >> to be widespread, maybe one of you will be able to find the log
>>>> >> >> for News and
>>>> >> >> get more information. I have not yet been able to find it using
>>>> >> >> Search, even
>>>> >> >> with indexed and hidden checkmarked. Perhaps it has a name I do
>>>> >> >> not recognize.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I know I can still establish SSL connections through port 80 in
>>>> >> >> Internet
>>>> >> >> Explorer, so perhaps this is Windows Mail specific.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Hope someone can find the problem ... vanilla ...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and
>>>> >> >> > cleck on one of
>>>> >> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>>> >> >> > "Windows Mail
>>>> >> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time.
>>>> >> >> > Please try
>>>> >> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been
>>>> >> >> > going on for
>>>> >> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive
>>>> >> >> > this message?
>>>> >> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>>> >>
>>>>

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