Vista - Microsoft Communities

Newsgroups have worked fine for many years without bothering
with categorizing posts into questions, comments, or suggestions.

Everyone should at least try the newsgroup interface to see if they
like it better:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail

Gary VanderMolen


"The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A67F731D-1363-4AC6-9EB3-72E116FBC7A7@microsoft.com...
> True, but you may have also noted that your questions are probably posting as
> comments and not as questions in the newgroup. While messages and replies
> can still be posted, they do not retain their character (question, comment,
> or suggestion) as marked in the original message. They may also be void of
> other enhanced rating capabilities. Capabilities that would be nice if they
> worked.
>
> "The Cat''s Meow" wrote:
>
>> When this window pops up and I say OK, it just goes away and I can read and
>> send using this community. I can live with that since it allows me to read
>> and send to the communities. It has to be a silly bug that Microsoft has to
>> fix.
>>
>>
>> "jimrx4" wrote:
>>
>> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
>> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
>> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
>> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
>> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
>> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.

Hello Gary,

I, too, have used the newsgroups for many years and, frankly, I like some of
the new features for classifying and rating messages. I like the idea of
classifying message posts of different types, especially given that different
types of posts require different treatment or handling. I also suspect that
it will help Microsoft quickly collect and redirect enhancement requests and
comments to the proper departments.

Nevertheless, the new features under scruitiny in this thread certainly need
to work before they can provide benefits to anyone, including Microsoft.


*************************
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Newsgroups have worked fine for many years without bothering
> with categorizing posts into questions, comments, or suggestions.
>
> Everyone should at least try the newsgroup interface to see if they
> like it better:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A67F731D-1363-4AC6-9EB3-72E116FBC7A7@microsoft.com...
> > True, but you may have also noted that your questions are probably posting as
> > comments and not as questions in the newgroup. While messages and replies
> > can still be posted, they do not retain their character (question, comment,
> > or suggestion) as marked in the original message. They may also be void of
> > other enhanced rating capabilities. Capabilities that would be nice if they
> > worked.
> >
> > "The Cat''s Meow" wrote:
> >
> >> When this window pops up and I say OK, it just goes away and I can read and
> >> send using this community. I can live with that since it allows me to read
> >> and send to the communities. It has to be a silly bug that Microsoft has to
> >> fix.
> >>
> >>
> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
> >>
> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>
>
>

The sticking point I see is that the main responders here refuse to
use the web interface, so none of their valuable responses get
classified. So what's the use?

Gary VanderMolen

"The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:83A5B386-AD2A-4123-958C-B56ACEA785AE@microsoft.com...
> Hello Gary,
>
> I, too, have used the newsgroups for many years and, frankly, I like some of
> the new features for classifying and rating messages. I like the idea of
> classifying message posts of different types, especially given that different
> types of posts require different treatment or handling. I also suspect that
> it will help Microsoft quickly collect and redirect enhancement requests and
> comments to the proper departments.
>
> Nevertheless, the new features under scruitiny in this thread certainly need
> to work before they can provide benefits to anyone, including Microsoft.
>
>
> *************************
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Newsgroups have worked fine for many years without bothering
>> with categorizing posts into questions, comments, or suggestions.
>>
>> Everyone should at least try the newsgroup interface to see if they
>> like it better:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>>
>> "The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A67F731D-1363-4AC6-9EB3-72E116FBC7A7@microsoft.com...
>> > True, but you may have also noted that your questions are probably posting as
>> > comments and not as questions in the newgroup. While messages and replies
>> > can still be posted, they do not retain their character (question, comment,
>> > or suggestion) as marked in the original message. They may also be void of
>> > other enhanced rating capabilities. Capabilities that would be nice if they
>> > worked.
>> >
>> > "The Cat''s Meow" wrote:
>> >
>> >> When this window pops up and I say OK, it just goes away and I can read and
>> >> send using this community. I can live with that since it allows me to read
>> >> and send to the communities. It has to be a silly bug that Microsoft has to
>> >> fix.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
>> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
>> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
>> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
>> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
>> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>>
>>
>>

You are right, Gary, about newsgroups working just fine ... but I kinda like
the little enhancements that, unfortunately, are not working. Hope they go
to the trouble to get it working right. I have been to the web pages for the
Microsoft Communities and I like it all but it is so very slow compared to
reading News in an app like Windows Mail. I took your advice (and the advice
of many others) and turned mine off several months ago. Will just wait and
see what happens. Just thought of something else ... will make it a separate
post ... vanilla


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eWoDBDU2HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Newsgroups have worked fine for many years without bothering
> with categorizing posts into questions, comments, or suggestions.
>
> Everyone should at least try the newsgroup interface to see if they
> like it better:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A67F731D-1363-4AC6-9EB3-72E116FBC7A7@microsoft.com...
>> True, but you may have also noted that your questions are probably
>> posting as
>> comments and not as questions in the newgroup. While messages and
>> replies
>> can still be posted, they do not retain their character (question,
>> comment,
>> or suggestion) as marked in the original message. They may also be void
>> of
>> other enhanced rating capabilities. Capabilities that would be nice if
>> they
>> worked.
>>
>> "The Cat''s Meow" wrote:
>>
>>> When this window pops up and I say OK, it just goes away and I can read
>>> and
>>> send using this community. I can live with that since it allows me to
>>> read
>>> and send to the communities. It has to be a silly bug that Microsoft has
>>> to
>>> fix.
>>>
>>>
>>> "jimrx4" wrote:
>>>
>>> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on
>>> > one of
>>> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message.
>>> > "Windows Mail
>>> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please
>>> > try
>>> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going
>>> > on for
>>> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this
>>> > message?
>>> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
>
>
>

Just chiming in with a hearty "me too"! I started seeing the problem in the
last few days (although I haven't used "Windows Mail" for newsgroup reading
much). I wanted to restate the fact that, yes, there are alternative
interfaces (Web and good old NNTP), and the problem isn't that we can't get
to the groups, but that we can't use the features Microsoft is promoting.
It's a little embarrassing, frankly, that Microsoft hasn't managed to fix
this in so many months.

Somehow those at MS don't get embarassed when their bugs break things. They
don't seem very concerned about it.

I guess there is no Q in Microsoft.

steve

"Oscar Fowler" <Oscar Fowler@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC9725BB-D715-49F4-855D-F356EE4D3E95@microsoft.com...
> Just chiming in with a hearty "me too"! I started seeing the problem in
> the
> last few days (although I haven't used "Windows Mail" for newsgroup
> reading
> much). I wanted to restate the fact that, yes, there are alternative
> interfaces (Web and good old NNTP), and the problem isn't that we can't
> get
> to the groups, but that we can't use the features Microsoft is promoting.
> It's a little embarrassing, frankly, that Microsoft hasn't managed to fix
> this in so many months.
>
>

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> The sticking point I see is that the main responders here refuse to
> use the web interface, so none of their valuable responses get
> classified. So what's the use?

REPLY:

True, they could use the web interface as a work-around, but for us the
issue is that many, like ourselves, do not wish to use the web interface. In
our case, we prefer to use Windows Vista Mail as our primary interface. As
such, the purpose of our comments is to encourage Microsoft to fix an obvious
problem so that those of us who prefer the mail interface can also enjoy the
classification or rating features. The irony is that the feature worked fine
in Windows Vista Mail until recently.

Thanks

>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:83A5B386-AD2A-4123-958C-B56ACEA785AE@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Gary,
> >
> > I, too, have used the newsgroups for many years and, frankly, I like some of
> > the new features for classifying and rating messages. I like the idea of
> > classifying message posts of different types, especially given that different
> > types of posts require different treatment or handling. I also suspect that
> > it will help Microsoft quickly collect and redirect enhancement requests and
> > comments to the proper departments.
> >
> > Nevertheless, the new features under scruitiny in this thread certainly need
> > to work before they can provide benefits to anyone, including Microsoft.
> >
> >
> > *************************
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Newsgroups have worked fine for many years without bothering
> >> with categorizing posts into questions, comments, or suggestions.
> >>
> >> Everyone should at least try the newsgroup interface to see if they
> >> like it better:
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >>
> >> "The Blue Max" <TheBlueMax@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A67F731D-1363-4AC6-9EB3-72E116FBC7A7@microsoft.com...
> >> > True, but you may have also noted that your questions are probably posting as
> >> > comments and not as questions in the newgroup. While messages and replies
> >> > can still be posted, they do not retain their character (question, comment,
> >> > or suggestion) as marked in the original message. They may also be void of
> >> > other enhanced rating capabilities. Capabilities that would be nice if they
> >> > worked.
> >> >
> >> > "The Cat''s Meow" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> When this window pops up and I say OK, it just goes away and I can read and
> >> >> send using this community. I can live with that since it allows me to read
> >> >> and send to the communities. It has to be a silly bug that Microsoft has to
> >> >> fix.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "jimrx4" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > When I open Windows Mail and go to Microsoft Communities and cleck on one of
> >> >> > the Newsgroups I wish to read I receive the following message. "Windows Mail
> >> >> > is unable to use Microsoft Communities features at this time. Please try
> >> >> > signing into Microsoft Communities again later." This has been going on for
> >> >> > the past few days. I've changed nothing. Any one else receive this message?
> >> >> > What am I doing wrong? I have changed nothing knowingly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>