Vista - Windows Mail complaints

Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
"not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
(b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers",
but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone
have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
fixed? Thanks, Paul

The first situation may be related to antivirus software. Check that it is
not set to scan email. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
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> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
> problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
> No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
> up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
> all",
> but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not
> "show-stoppers",
> but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop.
> Anyone
> have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
> fixed? Thanks, Paul
>

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
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> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
> but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers",
> but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone
> have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
> fixed? Thanks, Paul

Paul,

As Steve said, problem (a) may be related to an AV. However, I have
had the same problem and it is not AV related. I left you a reply in the
vista.general group, I will paste it here. Sorry, I couldn't offer more help.
Just know, your "delay problem" is not unique.

From vista.general:

There is a "delay" for a lot of folks using Windows Mail when
composing and replying. I have seen this delay since RC2,
and not in any prior beta build.
Like you said, the window may pop up right away, but you can't do
anything for awhile. Do you also have a delay when you try
to highlight text in a reply window to cut or copy? I do.
This used to drive me crazy trying to figure out what the problem
was. I've tried numerous things. I have found that after having
WinMail open for about 30 minutes to an hour, the "delay" goes away.

I never thought I would say this, but Windows Mail is far worse than
Outlook Express ever was. I don't care what supposedly was done
to it to make it "better", but it really blows. I am amazed WinMail was
put into Vista in this condition. I really feel like I am using a beta product.
Pathetic is the only word I can muster to describe Windows Mail.

Luckily, I use Outlook for email and only use WinMail for newsgroups.


Take care,

Michael

Thanks Steve. Wouldn't AV software cause a delay on "send", not "Create"? I
hesitate to turn off my CA email protection, because it catches things that
I receive.


"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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The first situation may be related to antivirus software. Check that it is
not set to scan email. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
> problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
> No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
> up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
> all",
> but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not
> "show-stoppers",
> but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop.
> Anyone
> have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
> fixed? Thanks, Paul
>

Do you have a lot of Contacts? This may cause a delay since WinMail
evidently has to load the Contacts into memory when you begin composing.
Try this: Tools, Options, Send, uncheck "Automatically complete e-mail
addresses when composing."

Gary VanderMolen

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
> but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers",
> but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone
> have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
> fixed? Thanks, Paul

I've tried that, too. Even though I only have a
few contacts listed in Windows Contacts, mine are
all kept in Outlook.

Changing that setting, obviously, did nothing for me.


-Michael

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
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> Do you have a lot of Contacts? This may cause a delay since WinMail
> evidently has to load the Contacts into memory when you begin composing.
> Try this: Tools, Options, Send, uncheck "Automatically complete e-mail addresses when
> composing."
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems. I successfully
>> moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No problem. But (a) When I click
>> "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up to a minute for the window, which does come
>> up immediately, to change from "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the
>> email. Also, (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all", but
>> in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including when I "Send" makes me
>> deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista Home
>> Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live
>> with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>

Something is not right with your WinMail.
On my laptop it takes less than one second after clicking on
Create Mail for that window to open.

As a test, you might try moving the \AppData\...\Windows Mail directory elsewhere.
This will regenerate all the standard folders from scratch.

Gary VanderMolen

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message news:uNR2z71bHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I've tried that, too. Even though I only have a
> few contacts listed in Windows Contacts, mine are
> all kept in Outlook.
>
> Changing that setting, obviously, did nothing for me.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u9wwof0bHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Do you have a lot of Contacts? This may cause a delay since WinMail
>> evidently has to load the Contacts into memory when you begin composing.
>> Try this: Tools, Options, Send, uncheck "Automatically complete e-mail addresses when
>> composing."
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems. I successfully
>>> moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No problem. But (a) When I click
>>> "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up to a minute for the window, which does come
>>> up immediately, to change from "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the
>>> email. Also, (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all", but
>>> in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including when I "Send" makes me
>>> deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista Home
>>> Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live
>>> with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>
>

Antivirus scanning of email is redundant and not necessary. As Michael
indicates that might not be the issue in your circumstance.

steve

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks Steve. Wouldn't AV software cause a delay on "send", not "Create"?
> I
> hesitate to turn off my CA email protection, because it catches things
> that
> I receive.
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:OKG7MltbHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The first situation may be related to antivirus software. Check that it is
> not set to scan email. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
>
> steve
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
>> problems.
>> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
>> No
>> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
>> up
>> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change
>> from
>> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email.
>> Also,
>> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
>> all",
>> but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
>> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not
>> "show-stoppers",
>> but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop.
>> Anyone
>> have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they
>> are
>> fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>
>

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23uTEBB3bHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Something is not right with your WinMail.

You can say that again. But, I'm not the only one.

> On my laptop it takes less than one second after clicking on
> Create Mail for that window to open.

That's the way it should be.

> As a test, you might try moving the \AppData\...\Windows Mail directory elsewhere.
> This will regenerate all the standard folders from scratch.

Been there, done it... a few times.

The strange thing- after having WinMail open for awhile,
from 30 minutes to an hour, the problem goes away. The
more I use it, like making new posts or replies, the faster the
problem goes away. I can't explain it, I've stopped trying.
All I can tell you is what I see and experience. Others have
reported slow responding compose and reply windows.
The window itself may pop up fast, but you can't do anything
for 10 to 30 seconds. The outline of the compose/reply window
is there, but it stays all white for 10 to 30 seconds.
Also, until the problem "fixes" itself after 30 to 60 minutes, I even
get a delay "not responding" notice when trying to select text to
copy or cut in the compose/reply window.

I have tried everything.


-Michael

> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:uNR2z71bHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I've tried that, too. Even though I only have a
>> few contacts listed in Windows Contacts, mine are
>> all kept in Outlook.
>>
>> Changing that setting, obviously, did nothing for me.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u9wwof0bHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Do you have a lot of Contacts? This may cause a delay since WinMail
>>> evidently has to load the Contacts into memory when you begin composing.
>>> Try this: Tools, Options, Send, uncheck "Automatically complete e-mail addresses when
>>> composing."
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems. I successfully
>>>> moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No problem. But (a) When I
>>>> click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up to a minute for the window, which
>>>> does come up immediately, to change from "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to
>>>> compose the email. Also, (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to
>>>> "Ignore all", but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
>>>> when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super
>>>> annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are
>>>> these just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>>
>>

Michael,
You're absolutely RIGHT !!!!!!
So far (after a month and a half) it's the only thing that really SUCKS in
Vista. How I miss my old, great Outlook Express. Far better than any other!!!!
This guy, Steve Cochran - made it a little better - by making a program that
makes WM accept several identities... pass it on if you can:
http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/Default.aspx

Marcelo

"MICHAEL" wrote:

>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:eW1odvrbHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
> > I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
> > problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
> > to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> > "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> > (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
> > but in Windows Mail every subsequent spell check in that email, including
> > when I "Send" makes me deal with the same words again. Not "show-stoppers",
> > but super annoying. I have Vista Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone
> > have a solution, or are these just bugs I have to live with until they are
> > fixed? Thanks, Paul
>
> Paul,
>
> As Steve said, problem (a) may be related to an AV. However, I have
> had the same problem and it is not AV related. I left you a reply in the
> vista.general group, I will paste it here. Sorry, I couldn't offer more help.
> Just know, your "delay problem" is not unique.
>
> From vista.general:
>
> There is a "delay" for a lot of folks using Windows Mail when
> composing and replying. I have seen this delay since RC2,
> and not in any prior beta build.
> Like you said, the window may pop up right away, but you can't do
> anything for awhile. Do you also have a delay when you try
> to highlight text in a reply window to cut or copy? I do.
> This used to drive me crazy trying to figure out what the problem
> was. I've tried numerous things. I have found that after having
> WinMail open for about 30 minutes to an hour, the "delay" goes away.
>
> I never thought I would say this, but Windows Mail is far worse than
> Outlook Express ever was. I don't care what supposedly was done
> to it to make it "better", but it really blows. I am amazed WinMail was
> put into Vista in this condition. I really feel like I am using a beta product.
> Pathetic is the only word I can muster to describe Windows Mail.
>
> Luckily, I use Outlook for email and only use WinMail for newsgroups.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Michael
>
>