Vista - Posting to BellSouth newsgroup fails

I stand corrected. I just changed my news format from Mime/None
to Uuencode. Why would MS change the default when it may not
be compatible with a lot of news servers?

Gary VanderMolen

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:BB5116A3-BFDF-4766-9B69-F1EA305043CD@microsoft.com...
>I think they may have changed the default in WinMail to Mime.
>
> steve
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:OSh520VfHHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Interesting. UUENCODE is the OE/WinMail default for News.
>> Someone must have changed your setting at some point.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message news:%23Q4b5WUfHHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Steve & NG
>>>
>>> You hit the nail on the head! That was it. BellSouth is still "researching" the problem. They did not even know they had a
>>> test site I will inform BellSouth of your insight.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news9E733B2-12D4-450E-9A72-820F41D89583@microsoft.com...
>>>> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it to UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Dear NG,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error
>>>>> number 0x800CCCA9. Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message demonstrates. It is not a password error, because
>>>>> trying a wrong password gives me an authentication error. The complete error message is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista "Listen Live" crashes IE7', Account:
>>>>> 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Server: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Posting Failed
>>>>> (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>>>>>
>>>>> BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other people's software. Their curt reply is:
>>>>>
>>>>> We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical support for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We
>>>>> cannot provide assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will need to contact the manufacturer of your
>>>>> product for technical assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>

A sign of the times.
Companies now hire people who will work for the lowest
wages instead of the best qualified. Circuit City just fired
all their experienced sales reps so they could save on
salary expenses.

Gary VanderMolen

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:7736F343-D57D-4B81-B529-D9B81B25D4EF@microsoft.com...
> its amusing the bellsouth people didn't know that.
>
> steve
>
> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message news:%23Q4b5WUfHHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Steve & NG
>>
>> You hit the nail on the head! That was it. BellSouth is still "researching" the problem. They did not even know they had a
>> test site I will inform BellSouth of your insight.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news9E733B2-12D4-450E-9A72-820F41D89583@microsoft.com...
>>> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it to UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dear NG,
>>>>
>>>> I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error
>>>> number 0x800CCCA9. Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message demonstrates. It is not a password error, because
>>>> trying a wrong password gives me an authentication error. The complete error message is:
>>>>
>>>> Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista "Listen Live" crashes IE7', Account:
>>>> 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Server: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Posting Failed
>>>> (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>>>>
>>>> BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other people's software. Their curt reply is:
>>>>
>>>> We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical support for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We
>>>> cannot provide assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will need to contact the manufacturer of your product
>>>> for technical assistance.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>
>>
>

See your other reply referencing the sign of the times. I don't expect MS
is much different.

Plus it wouldn't be OE or WM unless it broke something.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:uh4QjEffHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I stand corrected. I just changed my news format from Mime/None
> to Uuencode. Why would MS change the default when it may not
> be compatible with a lot of news servers?
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:BB5116A3-BFDF-4766-9B69-F1EA305043CD@microsoft.com...
>>I think they may have changed the default in WinMail to Mime.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OSh520VfHHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Interesting. UUENCODE is the OE/WinMail default for News.
>>> Someone must have changed your setting at some point.
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Q4b5WUfHHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Steve & NG
>>>>
>>>> You hit the nail on the head! That was it. BellSouth is still
>>>> "researching" the problem. They did not even know they had a test
>>>> site I will inform BellSouth of your insight.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>> news9E733B2-12D4-450E-9A72-820F41D89583@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it
>>>>> to UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> steve
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Dear NG,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system
>>>>>> rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error number
>>>>>> 0x800CCCA9. Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message
>>>>>> demonstrates. It is not a password error, because trying a wrong
>>>>>> password gives me an authentication error. The complete error
>>>>>> message is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista
>>>>>> "Listen Live" crashes IE7', Account: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net',
>>>>>> Server: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response:
>>>>>> '441 Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119,
>>>>>> Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other
>>>>>> people's software. Their curt reply is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical
>>>>>> support for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We cannot
>>>>>> provide assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will
>>>>>> need to contact the manufacturer of your product for technical
>>>>>> assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>

Thanks for your help too, Steve. I'm using Windows Vista Enterprise Edition
and I've been experiencing the same problem for quite some time now. No one
changed any setting when I first opened up Windows Mail. The MIME setting was
the default.

Glad to have my newsgroups back!

Thanks again!

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it to
> UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>
> steve
>
> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message
> news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Dear NG,
> >
> > I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system
> > rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error number 0x800CCCA9.
> > Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message demonstrates. It
> > is not a password error, because trying a wrong password gives me an
> > authentication error. The complete error message is:
> >
> > Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista "Listen
> > Live" crashes IE7', Account: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Server:
> > 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Posting
> > Failed (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server
> > Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
> >
> > BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other
> > people's software. Their curt reply is:
> >
> > We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical support
> > for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We cannot provide
> > assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will need to
> > contact the manufacturer of your product for technical assistance.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bob
>

Yes, Microsoft screwed up when they changed the news default to MIME.

Gary VanderMolen

"Dale" <Dale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ABF72DC4-88FB-4057-AF2E-45E12E6695A5@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your help too, Steve. I'm using Windows Vista Enterprise Edition
> and I've been experiencing the same problem for quite some time now. No one
> changed any setting when I first opened up Windows Mail. The MIME setting was
> the default.
>
> Glad to have my newsgroups back!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it to
>> UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message
>> news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Dear NG,
>> >
>> > I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system
>> > rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error number 0x800CCCA9.
>> > Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message demonstrates. It
>> > is not a password error, because trying a wrong password gives me an
>> > authentication error. The complete error message is:
>> >
>> > Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista "Listen
>> > Live" crashes IE7', Account: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Server:
>> > 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Posting
>> > Failed (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server
>> > Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>> >
>> > BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other
>> > people's software. Their curt reply is:
>> >
>> > We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical support
>> > for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We cannot provide
>> > assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will need to
>> > contact the manufacturer of your product for technical assistance.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Bob

Don't forget to add a reply to address in the setup, this is what finally
got mine working...

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23bnkQvEvHHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yes, Microsoft screwed up when they changed the news default to MIME.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Dale" <Dale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ABF72DC4-88FB-4057-AF2E-45E12E6695A5@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for your help too, Steve. I'm using Windows Vista Enterprise
>> Edition
>> and I've been experiencing the same problem for quite some time now. No
>> one
>> changed any setting when I first opened up Windows Mail. The MIME setting
>> was
>> the default.
>>
>> Glad to have my newsgroups back!
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>>
>>> Go to Tools | Options | Send | News | Plain text Settings and set it to
>>> UUENCODE instead of MIME. Then it will work.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@s-i-inc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u6kpzuCfHHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> > Dear NG,
>>> >
>>> > I was trying to post a message TO a BellSouth newsgroup. The system
>>> > rejected my message with a 441 error. It was error number 0x800CCCA9.
>>> > Now I clearly can post to Microsoft NGs as this message demonstrates.
>>> > It
>>> > is not a password error, because trying a wrong password gives me an
>>> > authentication error. The complete error message is:
>>> >
>>> > Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 'IE7 w/Vista "Listen
>>> > Live" crashes IE7', Account: 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Server:
>>> > 'newsgroups.bellsouth.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441
>>> > Posting
>>> > Failed (Rejected by POST filter)', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server
>>> > Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>>> >
>>> > BellSouth will not help me as they claim they do not support other
>>> > people's software. Their curt reply is:
>>> >
>>> > We apologize for the inconvenience, but we only offer technical
>>> > support
>>> > for issues regarding BellSouth FastAccess DSL. We cannot provide
>>> > assistance for any third party software or hardware. You will need to
>>> > contact the manufacturer of your product for technical assistance.
>>> >
>>> > Any ideas?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Bob
>
>