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Old 05-01-2007   #1 (permalink)
Peter Falconer


 
 

Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

I have two problems setting up Windows Mail, No.1 apparently resolved for
now, No.2 still requiring assistance.

1. Some emails with attachments were not recorded as being sent - still
appeared in Outbox as unsent and not appearing in Sent Items. Error
message: "Your SMTP server has not responded in 60 seconds, etc.............
Error number OX 800CCC19". However, the message recipient reported
receiving the message multiple times - the number of times I had tried
sending, apparently. Others on this service reporting that Windows Mail is
not sending emails might check with recipients if emails are actually
getting through.

Following the advice given in earlier postings, I dissabled the anti-virus
for outgoing emails (in Trend Micro PC-cillin 2007) and this problem has not
recurred since. Fingers crossed!

2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created the
folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail just as they appear
in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but everything
lands in the general Inbox, without being moved to the specified folder. Am
I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin detecting some Message Rules as
a virus, perhaps?

Cheers

Peter Falconer
pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au


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Old 05-01-2007   #2 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

Can you post one of your Message Rules here
for us to analyze? Make sure each rule ends with
"and Stop processing more rules."

Gary VanderMolen

"Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message news:OdFqqV7iHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> 2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created the folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail
> just as they appear in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but everything lands in the general Inbox,
> without being moved to the specified folder. Am I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin detecting some Message Rules as a
> virus, perhaps?



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Old 05-01-2007   #3 (permalink)
Peter Falconer


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

Thanks Gary. That gave me the clue.

I had not checked the box "and Stop processing more rules". After
experimenting, I also found that I had to check the box "for all messages".
Getting redirections now into nominated folders.

Neither of these boxes had been checked in my old Outlook Express message
rules and it worked without them, so perhaps OE and Windows Mail have some
different default settings.

Peter F
pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:uGKmzd7iHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Can you post one of your Message Rules here
> for us to analyze? Make sure each rule ends with
> "and Stop processing more rules."
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OdFqqV7iHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> 2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created the
>> folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail just as they
>> appear in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but
>> everything lands in the general Inbox, without being moved to the
>> specified folder. Am I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin
>> detecting some Message Rules as a virus, perhaps?

>
>


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Old 05-01-2007   #4 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

Checking "For all messages", unchecks and grays out all of the other
conditions.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
news:e13qfI8iHHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: Thanks Gary. That gave me the clue.
:
: I had not checked the box "and Stop processing more rules". After
: experimenting, I also found that I had to check the box "for all
messages".
: Getting redirections now into nominated folders.
:
: Neither of these boxes had been checked in my old Outlook Express message
: rules and it worked without them, so perhaps OE and Windows Mail have some
: different default settings.
:
: Peter F
: pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au
: "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
: news:uGKmzd7iHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > Can you post one of your Message Rules here
: > for us to analyze? Make sure each rule ends with
: > "and Stop processing more rules."
: >
: > Gary VanderMolen
: >
: > "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
: > news:OdFqqV7iHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: >>
: >> 2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created
the
: >> folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail just as they
: >> appear in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but
: >> everything lands in the general Inbox, without being moved to the
: >> specified folder. Am I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin
: >> detecting some Message Rules as a virus, perhaps?
: >
: >
:

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Old 06-04-2007   #5 (permalink)
laurie


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail



"Ron Sommer" wrote:

> Checking "For all messages", unchecks and grays out all of the other
> conditions.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
> news:e13qfI8iHHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : Thanks Gary. That gave me the clue.
> :
> : I had not checked the box "and Stop processing more rules". After
> : experimenting, I also found that I had to check the box "for all
> messages".
> : Getting redirections now into nominated folders.
> :
> : Neither of these boxes had been checked in my old Outlook Express message
> : rules and it worked without them, so perhaps OE and Windows Mail have some
> : different default settings.
> :
> : Peter F
> : pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au
> : "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> : news:uGKmzd7iHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > Can you post one of your Message Rules here
> : > for us to analyze? Make sure each rule ends with
> : > "and Stop processing more rules."
> : >
> : > Gary VanderMolen
> : >
> : > "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
> : > news:OdFqqV7iHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : >>
> : >> 2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created
> the
> : >> folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail just as they
> : >> appear in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but
> : >> everything lands in the general Inbox, without being moved to the
> : >> specified folder. Am I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin
> : >> detecting some Message Rules as a virus, perhaps?
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>

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Old 06-04-2007   #6 (permalink)
laurie


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail



"Ron Sommer" wrote:

> Checking "For all messages", unchecks and grays out all of the other
> conditions.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
> news:e13qfI8iHHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : Thanks Gary. That gave me the clue.
> :
> : I had not checked the box "and Stop processing more rules". After
> : experimenting, I also found that I had to check the box "for all
> messages".
> : Getting redirections now into nominated folders.
> :
> : Neither of these boxes had been checked in my old Outlook Express message
> : rules and it worked without them, so perhaps OE and Windows Mail have some
> : different default settings.
> :
> : Peter F
> : pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au
> : "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> : news:uGKmzd7iHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > Can you post one of your Message Rules here
> : > for us to analyze? Make sure each rule ends with
> : > "and Stop processing more rules."
> : >
> : > Gary VanderMolen
> : >
> : > "Peter Falconer" <pfalconer@medleywillows.com.au> wrote in message
> : > news:OdFqqV7iHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : >>
> : >> 2. Need help organising incoming emails into folders. I have created
> the
> : >> folders and copied the Message Rules into Windows Mail just as they
> : >> appear in Outlook Express in my old computer (running XP and OE6) but
> : >> everything lands in the general Inbox, without being moved to the
> : >> specified folder. Am I missing something obvious, or is PC-cillin
> : >> detecting some Message Rules as a virus, perhaps?
> : >
> : >
> :
> Where are you finding the "and stop processing rules"? I'm having the same problem of my message rules disappearing once I apply them and close the window. How do you make them stay put?


>

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Old 06-28-2007   #7 (permalink)
RSH


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

I am having the same problem as Laurie. I create a rule, apply it works fine.
Close the message rule dialogue box and the rule disappears. I never had this
issue in OE.
Any ideas?

"laurie" wrote:

> > Where are you finding the "and stop processing rules"? I'm having the same problem of my message rules disappearing once I apply them and close the window. How do you make them stay put?

>
> >

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Old 06-29-2007   #8 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: Sent emails & Message Rules for incoming Mail

"RSH" <RSH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5B058EB9-3291-45C2-B9C2-60CF7D0E57BB@microsoft.com...
>I am having the same problem as Laurie. I create a rule, apply it works
>fine.
> Close the message rule dialogue box and the rule disappears. I never had
> this
> issue in OE.
> Any ideas?
>
> "laurie" wrote:
>
>> > Where are you finding the "and stop processing rules"? I'm having the
>> > same problem of my message rules disappearing once I apply them and
>> > close the window. How do you make them stay put?

>>
>> >


It might be a security program blocking the Registry change it needs to
make. A few, but not all, of the programs now doing this are:
Ad-aware's Ad-Watch
IBM Access Connections
McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware
Norton AV
Spyware Blaster
Spybot> Tools> IE Tweaks
Spybot- Teatimer
Spysweeper
Spyware Doctor
Windows Defender
Zone Alarm (free) 6.5 Reported to be fixed in later versions.

In the case of Zone Alarm 6.5 or Norton 2007 it actually has to be
uninstalled. Make sure the Windows Firewall is turned on until you
reinstall Zone Alarm.

Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

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