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I've just converted to Vista and have Outlook setup and working fine. Using
Windows Vista Mail seems to get lots of errors and I'm wondering if using
Live Desktop Mail as my newsreader would work better. If so, is it possible
to launch it from within Outlook in much the same way as we formerly did
Outlook Express and currently do Windows Vista Mail?

As you can see, I've posted this on all three groups as I'm not sure who
among you might have the answer.

Tim

"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsm1945@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've just converted to Vista and have Outlook setup and working fine.

Outlook? Ar Outlook Express (which is called Windows Mail). It looks like
the "outlook" moniker still leads to confusion ;-)

> Using Windows Vista Mail seems to get lots of errors and I'm wondering if
> using Live Desktop Mail as my newsreader would work better.

What kind of?

>If so, is it possible to launch it from within Outlook in much the same way
>as we formerly did Outlook Express and currently do Windows Vista Mail?

Outlook has no Newsreader capabilities (unless using a 3rd party tool)
What means "... as we formely did" ?

> As you can see, I've posted this on all three groups as I'm not sure who
> among you might have the answer.

I'm not sure either since the Q's are not really clear(enough).

Have a nice day!

--
Leen


>
> Tim
>

On Thu, 3 May 2007 19:45:24 +0200, Leen wrote:

> "TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsm1945@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AQl_h.1061$Vi6.803@edtnps82...

>> I've just converted to Vista and have Outlook setup and working fine.

> Outlook? Ar Outlook Express (which is called Windows Mail). It looks like
> the "outlook" moniker still leads to confusion ;-)

MS Outlook. OP states that Outlook launches Windows Mail for newsgroups. OP
also states that Windows Mail is unreliable. Wants to know if Windows Live
Mail desktop will function as the news reader invoked by MS Outlook.

<snip>

>>If so, is it possible to launch it from within Outlook in much the same way
>>as we formerly did Outlook Express and currently do Windows Vista Mail?

> Outlook has no Newsreader capabilities (unless using a 3rd party tool)
> What means "... as we formely did" ?

MS Outlook will invoke MS Outlook Express as news reader. At least on
systems where both co-exist.

--
Norman
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"Leen" <ms_windows_2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsm1945@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AQl_h.1061$Vi6.803@edtnps82...
>> I've just converted to Vista and have Outlook setup and working fine.
>
> Outlook? Ar Outlook Express (which is called Windows Mail). It looks like
> the "outlook" moniker still leads to confusion ;-)

Frankly, I'm amazed that anyone would not have been able to understand my
post. I very specifically alluded to both the fact that I used to use
Outlook Express and that I launched it from the "go" command in Outlook and
I specifically mentioned Windows Mail as that's the program which seems
rather bug riddled now that I'm using Vista.

I do NOTuse Outlook Express in Vista...simply stated it can't be done. I
use OUTLOOK--part of the Microsoft Office package.

The question, I thought, was VERY simple. If one installs Windows Live Mail
Desktop, can it be configured in some way so that it launches under a
command within Outlook as Windows Mail does now and Outlook Express did in
the past.

>
>> Using Windows Vista Mail seems to get lots of errors and I'm wondering if
>> using Live Desktop Mail as my newsreader would work better.
>
> What kind of?

Any and every time I've hit "catch up" the program has failed and given me
the prompt to the effect, "I can restart or go to the internet to try to
find a solution." Restarting simply takes me back to where I was with the
additional prompt beforehand for me to setup an e -mail account.

It didn't happen once, or on occasion, it happened each and every time I
moved to a new newsgroup until, after the sixth time, I decided that if it
didn't work any better than that, I'd try Windows Live Mail Desktop.

I then posted my question in Outlook as it may be an "Outlook configurable"
setup to be able to launch WLMD. I also posted in Windows Mail thinking
there may be some sort of patch which corrects the problem causing the never
ending failure when "catching up." Finally, I also posted to WLMD as it
seems logical that people using it may also be using Outlook and either know
how to make the two interoperate or have the knowledge that it cannot be
done.


>
>>If so, is it possible to launch it from within Outlook in much the same
>>way as we formerly did Outlook Express and currently do Windows Vista
>>Mail?
>
> Outlook has no Newsreader capabilities (unless using a 3rd party tool)
> What means "... as we formely did" ?
>
>> As you can see, I've posted this on all three groups as I'm not sure who
>> among you might have the answer.
>
> I'm not sure either since the Q's are not really clear(enough).
>
> Have a nice day!
>
> --
> Leen
>
>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>

TS Mathews wrote:
>
> "Leen" <ms_windows_2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ONJ4WrajHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsm1945@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:AQl_h.1061$Vi6.803@edtnps82...
>>> I've just converted to Vista and have Outlook setup and working fine.
>>
>> Outlook? Ar Outlook Express (which is called Windows Mail). It looks
>> like the "outlook" moniker still leads to confusion ;-)
>
> Frankly, I'm amazed that anyone would not have been able to understand
> my post. I very specifically alluded to both the fact that I used to
> use Outlook Express and that I launched it from the "go" command in
> Outlook and I specifically mentioned Windows Mail as that's the program
> which seems rather bug riddled now that I'm using Vista.
>
> I do NOTuse Outlook Express in Vista...simply stated it can't be done.
> I use OUTLOOK--part of the Microsoft Office package.
>
> The question, I thought, was VERY simple. If one installs Windows Live
> Mail Desktop, can it be configured in some way so that it launches under
> a command within Outlook as Windows Mail does now and Outlook Express
> did in the past.
>
>>
>>> Using Windows Vista Mail seems to get lots of errors and I'm
>>> wondering if using Live Desktop Mail as my newsreader would work better.
>>
>> What kind of?
>
> Any and every time I've hit "catch up" the program has failed and given
> me the prompt to the effect, "I can restart or go to the internet to try
> to find a solution." Restarting simply takes me back to where I was
> with the additional prompt beforehand for me to setup an e -mail account.
>
> It didn't happen once, or on occasion, it happened each and every time I
> moved to a new newsgroup until, after the sixth time, I decided that if
> it didn't work any better than that, I'd try Windows Live Mail Desktop.
>
> I then posted my question in Outlook as it may be an "Outlook
> configurable" setup to be able to launch WLMD. I also posted in Windows
> Mail thinking there may be some sort of patch which corrects the problem
> causing the never ending failure when "catching up." Finally, I also
> posted to WLMD as it seems logical that people using it may also be
> using Outlook and either know how to make the two interoperate or have
> the knowledge that it cannot be done.
>
>
>>
>>> If so, is it possible to launch it from within Outlook in much the
>>> same way as we formerly did Outlook Express and currently do Windows
>>> Vista Mail?
>>
>> Outlook has no Newsreader capabilities (unless using a 3rd party tool)
>> What means "... as we formely did" ?
>>
>>> As you can see, I've posted this on all three groups as I'm not sure
>>> who among you might have the answer.
>>
>> I'm not sure either since the Q's are not really clear(enough).
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>> --
>> Leen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>
>

Both work together on this machine (Vista 64) and on Vista 32 but both
are slow and unreliable compared to Thunderbird.

Outlook Express was also considerably slower. It's obviously not a
server issue since it's the same server, but perhaps to do with the way
some of the data is accessed or the database model used by MS.

As for setting it as default I think that should be possible but can't
give a definite answer, sorry.

Just an offtopic comment:

I have found this one http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/
it have a 30day trial periode and 24$ is not very expensive.

Peter

* Charlie Tame:
> TS Mathews wrote:
>> Any and every time I've hit "catch up" the program has failed and given
>> me the prompt to the effect, "I can restart or go to the internet to try
>> to find a solution." Restarting simply takes me back to where I was
>> with the additional prompt beforehand for me to setup an e -mail account.
>>
>> It didn't happen once, or on occasion, it happened each and every time I
>> moved to a new newsgroup until, after the sixth time, I decided that if
>> it didn't work any better than that, I'd try Windows Live Mail Desktop.

Tim:
My advice is to use Thunderbird. I don't like Windows Mail or WLMD.
I experienced some of the same issues you have. I gave up and moved on
to a better newsreader. That's all I use Thunderbird for, like you I use
Outlook for email. I couldn't imagine having to put up with Windows Mail
for email... it is a lightweight POS, and should still be in beta testing and
not part of a major OS release.

> Both work together on this machine (Vista 64) and on Vista 32 but both
> are slow and unreliable compared to Thunderbird.

Hey, Charlie!

I agree about Thunderbird. I tried to like Windows Mail, and the
only thing I used it for was newsgroups. I gave up and switched
to Thunderbird, a much better experience.

I tried WLMD and found it to be buggy, too. Although, that was a
few months back. However, I'm not fond of the adware based concept
of WLMD and will stick to using TB as my newsreader.

> Outlook Express was also considerably slower. It's obviously not a
> server issue since it's the same server, but perhaps to do with the way
> some of the data is accessed or the database model used by MS.

While Outlook Express had its own issues, I thought it worked just fine
for newsgroups... at least for what I needed. Since I've been using Outlook
so long for email, I can't really offer too much opinion on OE or WinMail's
email reliability.... for newsgroups, especially, busy newsgroups- it's awful.

> As for setting it as default I think that should be possible but can't
> give a definite answer, sorry.

Should not be a problem at all.


Take care,

Michael