Vista - Initialize Junk filtering stops me opening Windows Mail

When I try to open mail I get the error message:

" Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"

My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:

"Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be initialized."

What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?

If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so many
problems and deficiencies?

Thanks. Mike

Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
they fix the issue.

steve

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
> When I try to open mail I get the error message:
>
> " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
> computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
>
> My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
>
> "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
> initialized."
>
> What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
>
> If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
> many
> problems and deficiencies?
>
> Thanks. Mike
>
>

Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other ideas
please?

Mike

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
> they fix the issue.
>
> steve
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
> >
> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
> >
> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
> >
> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
> > initialized."
> >
> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
> >
> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
> > many
> > problems and deficiencies?
> >
> > Thanks. Mike
> >
> >
>

I have the same problem that Mike has and I use www.oehelp.com/WMUtil and it
did not solved my problem. Know any other way to help?

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
> they fix the issue.
>
> steve
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
> >
> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
> >
> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
> >
> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
> > initialized."
> >
> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
> >
> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
> > many
> > problems and deficiencies?
> >
> > Thanks. Mike
> >
> >
>

Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
disable its email scanning option.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FF0E7020-FE27-4205-B1C1-C4AD8874C328@microsoft.com...
> Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other ideas
> please?
>
> Mike
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
>> they fix the issue.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
>> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
>> >
>> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
>> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
>> >
>> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
>> >
>> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
>> > initialized."
>> >
>> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
>> >
>> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
>> > many
>> > problems and deficiencies?
>> >
>> > Thanks. Mike
>> >
>> >
>>

Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
disable its email scanning option.

Gary VanderMolen

"Will" <Will@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:26809887-3617-4C10-AB41-447C425CEAEF@microsoft.com...
>I have the same problem that Mike has and I use www.oehelp.com/WMUtil and it
> did not solved my problem. Know any other way to help?
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
>> they fix the issue.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
>> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
>> >
>> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
>> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
>> >
>> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
>> >
>> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
>> > initialized."
>> >
>> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
>> >
>> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
>> > many
>> > problems and deficiencies?
>> >
>> > Thanks. Mike
>> >
>> >
>>

Gary, Thanks for your help. I completely removed Norton Antivirus and it
still did not work. I also tried the WMUtil again and rebooted and still it
fails to work. The only small change is that the box for MS Mail appears
momentarily before the same error message covers it up again.

I am getting desperate - what's my next move?

Mike

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
> programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
> If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
> Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
> download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
> free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
> disable its email scanning option.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FF0E7020-FE27-4205-B1C1-C4AD8874C328@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other ideas
> > please?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >
> >> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and see if
> >> they fix the issue.
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
> >> >
> >> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering. Your
> >> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
> >> >
> >> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error message:
> >> >
> >> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
> >> > initialized."
> >> >
> >> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system again?
> >> >
> >> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have so
> >> > many
> >> > problems and deficiencies?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks. Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>

The only chance now is to wipe out the database and see if it will start
then.

Go to Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder to find the
message store location. Then move everything under that Windows Mail
directory to another directory, so that the Windows Mail directory is
completely empty. Then restart WinMail and it will open fresh with nothing
in the database. You can then add your accounts and if they work correctly
then you can import messages from the directory to which you moved the files
back into WinMail (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm2wm).

If it still doesn't start, then post back and we can try other things.

steve

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97CA55FE-41C8-4A6B-AE46-06D862371BA8@microsoft.com...
> Gary, Thanks for your help. I completely removed Norton Antivirus and it
> still did not work. I also tried the WMUtil again and rebooted and still
> it
> fails to work. The only small change is that the box for MS Mail appears
> momentarily before the same error message covers it up again.
>
> I am getting desperate - what's my next move?
>
> Mike
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
>> programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
>> If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
>> Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
>> download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
>> free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
>> disable its email scanning option.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FF0E7020-FE27-4205-B1C1-C4AD8874C328@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other
>> > ideas
>> > please?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and
>> >> see if
>> >> they fix the issue.
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
>> >> >
>> >> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering.
>> >> > Your
>> >> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
>> >> >
>> >> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error
>> >> > message:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
>> >> > initialized."
>> >> >
>> >> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system
>> >> > again?
>> >> >
>> >> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have
>> >> > so
>> >> > many
>> >> > problems and deficiencies?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks. Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Steve,

When you say 'go to tools' do you mean tools in Windows mail? I cannot open
Windows mail - that's my problem. Is there somewhere else I should be
looking?

Mike

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> The only chance now is to wipe out the database and see if it will start
> then.
>
> Go to Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder to find the
> message store location. Then move everything under that Windows Mail
> directory to another directory, so that the Windows Mail directory is
> completely empty. Then restart WinMail and it will open fresh with nothing
> in the database. You can then add your accounts and if they work correctly
> then you can import messages from the directory to which you moved the files
> back into WinMail (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm2wm).
>
> If it still doesn't start, then post back and we can try other things.
>
> steve
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:97CA55FE-41C8-4A6B-AE46-06D862371BA8@microsoft.com...
> > Gary, Thanks for your help. I completely removed Norton Antivirus and it
> > still did not work. I also tried the WMUtil again and rebooted and still
> > it
> > fails to work. The only small change is that the box for MS Mail appears
> > momentarily before the same error message covers it up again.
> >
> > I am getting desperate - what's my next move?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
> >> programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
> >> If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
> >> Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
> >> download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
> >> free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
> >> disable its email scanning option.
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FF0E7020-FE27-4205-B1C1-C4AD8874C328@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other
> >> > ideas
> >> > please?
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and
> >> >> see if
> >> >> they fix the issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> steve
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering.
> >> >> > Your
> >> >> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error
> >> >> > message:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
> >> >> > initialized."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system
> >> >> > again?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > many
> >> >> > problems and deficiencies?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks. Mike
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Unless you moved it, the Windows Mail directory can be found here:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FC53FC7B-39E0-4D4B-B52F-0BED1F18F70D@microsoft.com...
> Steve,
>
> When you say 'go to tools' do you mean tools in Windows mail? I cannot open
> Windows mail - that's my problem. Is there somewhere else I should be
> looking?
>
> Mike
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> The only chance now is to wipe out the database and see if it will start
>> then.
>>
>> Go to Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder to find the
>> message store location. Then move everything under that Windows Mail
>> directory to another directory, so that the Windows Mail directory is
>> completely empty. Then restart WinMail and it will open fresh with nothing
>> in the database. You can then add your accounts and if they work correctly
>> then you can import messages from the directory to which you moved the files
>> back into WinMail (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm2wm).
>>
>> If it still doesn't start, then post back and we can try other things.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:97CA55FE-41C8-4A6B-AE46-06D862371BA8@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary, Thanks for your help. I completely removed Norton Antivirus and it
>> > still did not work. I also tried the WMUtil again and rebooted and still
>> > it
>> > fails to work. The only small change is that the box for MS Mail appears
>> > momentarily before the same error message covers it up again.
>> >
>> > I am getting desperate - what's my next move?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows Mail is very sensitive to interference from certain antivirus
>> >> programs. Read http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
>> >> If you have McAfee or Norton antivirus, uninstall it. Reboot and try
>> >> Windows Mail again. Once you get your email working properly,
>> >> download and install a less troublesome antivirus program such as the
>> >> free Avast. Whichever antivirus program you keep, be sure to
>> >> disable its email scanning option.
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FF0E7020-FE27-4205-B1C1-C4AD8874C328@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks very much Steve but it did not work. Do you have any other
>> >> > ideas
>> >> > please?
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Try the compact and repair buttons here (www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/) and
>> >> >> see if
>> >> >> they fix the issue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:9AE96DB6-5851-4E13-A898-A8896669A00A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > When I try to open mail I get the error message:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > " Windows mail could ot be started. initialize junk mail filtering.
>> >> >> > Your
>> >> >> > computer may be out of memory or your disk is full (0x80070002)"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My disk is certainly not full. After that I get another error
>> >> >> > message:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
>> >> >> > initialized."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What does this mean and what do I do to open up my mail system
>> >> >> > again?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If MS going to issue an upgrade to is mail system - it seems to have
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > many
>> >> >> > problems and deficiencies?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks. Mike
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>