Vista - Password protect

Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really want
to password protect the program in the same way you could do with outlook.

I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect my
user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I just
want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.

Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
best?

Stuart

No, you can't password-protect your email program.
Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)

If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.

Gary VanderMolen

"Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really want
> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with outlook.
>
> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect my
> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I just
> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
>
> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
> best?
>
> Stuart

Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to
protect my business documents and email, is that I can still access all my
business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows
Explorer. Sigh. So no security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that
password security as well for my files and email.

Pamela

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> No, you can't password-protect your email program.
> Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
>
> If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
> Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really
>> want
>> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with
>> outlook.
>>
>> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect
>> my
>> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I
>> just
>> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
>>
>> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
>> best?
>>
>> Stuart
>
>

I had a rare lapse before, I should have written Bill Gates *thinks he* knows
best.

See msn realises that I may not want to say logged on all the time. There's
an option. 'Remember me' and 'Remember password'. Great. But windows live
mail ignores all of this.

So now if I have to leave my screen I have to log out. Showing anyone
looking over my shoulder that I don't trust them. I don't. But I'd rather not
have to prove it.



"Pamela G" wrote:

> Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to
> protect my business documents and email, is that I can still access all my
> business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows
> Explorer. Sigh. So no security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that
> password security as well for my files and email.
>
> Pamela
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > No, you can't password-protect your email program.
> > Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
> >
> > If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
> > Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
> >
> > Gary VanderMolen
> >
> > "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really
> >> want
> >> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with
> >> outlook.
> >>
> >> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect
> >> my
> >> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I
> >> just
> >> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
> >>
> >> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
> >> best?
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >
> >
>
>

An administrator is, by definition, king of the machine, and can
therefore access anything he or she wants.
For those who need it, there are versions of Vista with a feature
called BitLocker, which encrypts all data.
In your case, you would have to make the account with the business
documents an administrator account, and make all the other accounts
have lesser privileges.

Another option would be to switch your email to Outlook, which still has
password-protected 'profiles'.

Gary VanderMolen

"Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:O$F$IUMxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to protect my business documents and email, is that I
> can still access all my business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows Explorer. Sigh. So no
> security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that password security as well for my files and email.
>
> Pamela
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> No, you can't password-protect your email program.
>> Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
>>
>> If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
>> Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really want
>>> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with outlook.
>>>
>>> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect my
>>> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I just
>>> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
>>>
>>> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
>>> best?
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>
>>
>

Comparing webmail and POP mail is like comparing apples and oranges.
Webmail was designed to be used on an unsecure computer, even a
borrowed computer, so it emphasizes login/logout.
POP mail was designed to be used on a dedicated single user computer.
If you prefer the webmail paradigm, there is nothing preventing you
from continuing to use webmail.

Gary VanderMolen

"Fluffy Polar Bear" <FluffyPolarBear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news1CA24F5-ADAA-478F-B82F-22A6D0A2711E@microsoft.com...
>I had a rare lapse before, I should have written Bill Gates *thinks he* knows
> best.
>
> See msn realises that I may not want to say logged on all the time. There's
> an option. 'Remember me' and 'Remember password'. Great. But windows live
> mail ignores all of this.
>
> So now if I have to leave my screen I have to log out. Showing anyone
> looking over my shoulder that I don't trust them. I don't. But I'd rather not
> have to prove it.
>
>
>
> "Pamela G" wrote:
>
>> Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to
>> protect my business documents and email, is that I can still access all my
>> business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows
>> Explorer. Sigh. So no security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that
>> password security as well for my files and email.
>>
>> Pamela
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > No, you can't password-protect your email program.
>> > Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
>> >
>> > If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
>> > Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
>> >
>> > Gary VanderMolen
>> >
>> > "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really
>> >> want
>> >> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with
>> >> outlook.
>> >>
>> >> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect
>> >> my
>> >> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I
>> >> just
>> >> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
>> >>
>> >> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
>> >> best?
>> >>
>> >> Stuart

The more I think about this the sillier this seems.

It's like saying 'you have a good lock on the front door to your house, so
why put a lock on the bathroom door? It wont stop someone breaking into your
bathroom.'

Really, it's just a case of stopping someone blundering in accidentally -
this only requires a lower level of security.

In my analogy it seems like microsoft is asking everyone in my house to wait
outside on the street while I use the toilet.

Stuart

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> An administrator is, by definition, king of the machine, and can
> therefore access anything he or she wants.
> For those who need it, there are versions of Vista with a feature
> called BitLocker, which encrypts all data.
> In your case, you would have to make the account with the business
> documents an administrator account, and make all the other accounts
> have lesser privileges.
>
> Another option would be to switch your email to Outlook, which still has
> password-protected 'profiles'.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:O$F$IUMxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to protect my business documents and email, is that I
> > can still access all my business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows Explorer. Sigh. So no
> > security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that password security as well for my files and email.
> >
> > Pamela
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> No, you can't password-protect your email program.
> >> Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
> >>
> >> If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
> >> Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really want
> >>> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with outlook.
> >>>
> >>> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect my
> >>> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I just
> >>> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
> >>>
> >>> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
> >>> best?
> >>>
> >>> Stuart
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

You are entitled to your opinion as to how you think it should work,
however, historically POP mail clients have not had access login.

Microsoft wants all house residents to have their own private bathroom. :-)

Gary VanderMolen

"Fluffy Polar Bear" <FluffyPolarBear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC113D5F-7C35-4944-925E-32B557329BDD@microsoft.com...
> The more I think about this the sillier this seems.
>
> It's like saying 'you have a good lock on the front door to your house, so
> why put a lock on the bathroom door? It wont stop someone breaking into your
> bathroom.'
>
> Really, it's just a case of stopping someone blundering in accidentally -
> this only requires a lower level of security.
>
> In my analogy it seems like microsoft is asking everyone in my house to wait
> outside on the street while I use the toilet.
>
> Stuart
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> An administrator is, by definition, king of the machine, and can
>> therefore access anything he or she wants.
>> For those who need it, there are versions of Vista with a feature
>> called BitLocker, which encrypts all data.
>> In your case, you would have to make the account with the business
>> documents an administrator account, and make all the other accounts
>> have lesser privileges.
>>
>> Another option would be to switch your email to Outlook, which still has
>> password-protected 'profiles'.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:O$F$IUMxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to protect my business documents and email, is that
>> > I
>> > can still access all my business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows Explorer. Sigh. So no
>> > security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that password security as well for my files and email.
>> >
>> > Pamela
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:eH1S2eLxHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> No, you can't password-protect your email program.
>> >> Yes, Bill Gates knows what's best for you. :-)
>> >>
>> >> If you need the privacy, you will have to get used to using
>> >> Start/Switch User whenever you are done using your PC.
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "Fluffy Polar Bear" <Fluffy Polar Bear@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:04A7C79C-D795-46D8-991C-823A7B5C8C7A@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Hi, I've just installed Windows Live Mail version 12.0.1184 and I really want
>> >>> to password protect the program in the same way you could do with outlook.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know that this wasn't 100% secure and in Vista I can password protect my
>> >>> user account, that this is more secure and I have actually done this. I just
>> >>> want to protect my e mail program, especially since it will load msn.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there any way of doing this? Or is it another case of Bill Gates knows
>> >>> best?
>> >>>
>> >>> Stuart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>

I understand that, and plan to switch privileges on the two user profiles. I
have Vista Ultimate, and have the bit locker, but have not set it up yet.
Following some of the other Vista newsgroups, I have seen some issues with
it, so am trying to learn more before establishing bit locker. Would that
encrypt my email as well? I do have Outlook 2003, but am not as familiar
with it as with OE and WM. I guess I could switch my business mail to that.
Sigh. There sure is a long learning curve with this new Vista machine.

Pamela

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:uq$eLFPxHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> An administrator is, by definition, king of the machine, and can
> therefore access anything he or she wants.
> For those who need it, there are versions of Vista with a feature
> called BitLocker, which encrypts all data.
> In your case, you would have to make the account with the business
> documents an administrator account, and make all the other accounts
> have lesser privileges.
>
> Another option would be to switch your email to Outlook, which still has
> password-protected 'profiles'.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:O$F$IUMxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user
>> to protect my business documents and email, is that I can still access
>> all my business files through my main account (administrator privileges)
>> in Windows Explorer. Sigh. So no security there. Any better ideas?
>> Because I need that password security as well for my files and email.
>>
>> Pamela

Sorry, I know next to nothing about Bit Locker. I suppose there is
a newsgroup that supports it.

Gary VanderMolen

"Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:#zYf08bxHHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I understand that, and plan to switch privileges on the two user profiles. I have Vista Ultimate, and have the bit locker, but
>have not set it up yet. Following some of the other Vista newsgroups, I have seen some issues with it, so am trying to learn more
>before establishing bit locker. Would that encrypt my email as well? I do have Outlook 2003, but am not as familiar with it as
>with OE and WM. I guess I could switch my business mail to that. Sigh. There sure is a long learning curve with this new Vista
>machine.
>
> Pamela
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uq$eLFPxHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> An administrator is, by definition, king of the machine, and can
>> therefore access anything he or she wants.
>> For those who need it, there are versions of Vista with a feature
>> called BitLocker, which encrypts all data.
>> In your case, you would have to make the account with the business
>> documents an administrator account, and make all the other accounts
>> have lesser privileges.
>>
>> Another option would be to switch your email to Outlook, which still has
>> password-protected 'profiles'.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Pamela G" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:O$F$IUMxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Ah, but one thing I noted after setting up an passworded additional user to protect my business documents and email, is that I
>>> can still access all my business files through my main account (administrator privileges) in Windows Explorer. Sigh. So no
>>> security there. Any better ideas? Because I need that password security as well for my files and email.
>>>
>>> Pamela
>