Vista - Increasingly dissatisfied with Vista Mail

I don't know if any fixed have been made but I find the performance of Mail
very poor.

Never had these problems with OE....

1. Difficulty syncing IMAP mailboxes. Constant timeouts (set at 90 seconds)
2. Constant resync. Randomly totally resyncs my inbox - which takes a while
when on the road.
3. Downloads headers of messages and then seems to download the messages
whenever - even when everything is checked to download the messages. It
always seems to want to wait until you view the messages (whether nntp or
imap) which makes the "user experience" poor.


In general Mail seems to have very poor performance / user experience. It
makes me feel like I'm dealing with someone / something that is on drugs.
Maybe it will, maybe it won't but it's slow - slow - slow ...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Paul

I just switched to Thunderbird. Too much trouble to figure WM out.

"Paul MacFarlane" wrote:

> I don't know if any fixed have been made but I find the performance of Mail
> very poor.
>
> Never had these problems with OE....
>
> 1. Difficulty syncing IMAP mailboxes. Constant timeouts (set at 90 seconds)
> 2. Constant resync. Randomly totally resyncs my inbox - which takes a while
> when on the road.
> 3. Downloads headers of messages and then seems to download the messages
> whenever - even when everything is checked to download the messages. It
> always seems to want to wait until you view the messages (whether nntp or
> imap) which makes the "user experience" poor.
>
>
> In general Mail seems to have very poor performance / user experience. It
> makes me feel like I'm dealing with someone / something that is on drugs.
> Maybe it will, maybe it won't but it's slow - slow - slow ...
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>
>

Thanks for the suggestion.

My initial feeling is to help get the problems fixed. Obviously Mail is not
just a new version of OE. Maybe they should consider re-releasing OE for
Vista.

My questions really is whether they are agressively fixing these problems.
I'd be running Outlook if it weren't for the lack of nntp.


"Suediff" <Suediff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AF72BB3C-6301-42EF-A93F-7F7BA1EF672A@microsoft.com...
>I just switched to Thunderbird. Too much trouble to figure WM out.
>
> "Paul MacFarlane" wrote:
>
>> I don't know if any fixed have been made but I find the performance of
>> Mail
>> very poor.
>>
>> Never had these problems with OE....
>>
>> 1. Difficulty syncing IMAP mailboxes. Constant timeouts (set at 90
>> seconds)
>> 2. Constant resync. Randomly totally resyncs my inbox - which takes a
>> while
>> when on the road.
>> 3. Downloads headers of messages and then seems to download the messages
>> whenever - even when everything is checked to download the messages. It
>> always seems to want to wait until you view the messages (whether nntp or
>> imap) which makes the "user experience" poor.
>>
>>
>> In general Mail seems to have very poor performance / user experience.
>> It
>> makes me feel like I'm dealing with someone / something that is on drugs.
>> Maybe it will, maybe it won't but it's slow - slow - slow ...
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>

"Paul MacFarlane" <pmacfarlane@mullenlaw.com> wrote in message
news:#a5rmDNxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> My initial feeling is to help get the problems fixed. Obviously Mail is
> not just a new version of OE. Maybe they should consider re-releasing OE
> for Vista.

It would certainly be good marketing IMO.

The line... "Carry on buying Windows because you can run OE."
would work for a lot of customers.

Windows is OE & IE as far as many users are concerned.



>
> My questions really is whether they are agressively fixing these problems.
> I'd be running Outlook if it weren't for the lack of nntp.
>
>
> "Suediff" <Suediff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AF72BB3C-6301-42EF-A93F-7F7BA1EF672A@microsoft.com...
>>I just switched to Thunderbird. Too much trouble to figure WM out.
>>
>> "Paul MacFarlane" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if any fixed have been made but I find the performance of
>>> Mail
>>> very poor.
>>>
>>> Never had these problems with OE....
>>>
>>> 1. Difficulty syncing IMAP mailboxes. Constant timeouts (set at 90
>>> seconds)
>>> 2. Constant resync. Randomly totally resyncs my inbox - which takes a
>>> while
>>> when on the road.
>>> 3. Downloads headers of messages and then seems to download the messages
>>> whenever - even when everything is checked to download the messages. It
>>> always seems to want to wait until you view the messages (whether nntp
>>> or
>>> imap) which makes the "user experience" poor.
>>>
>>>
>>> In general Mail seems to have very poor performance / user experience.
>>> It
>>> makes me feel like I'm dealing with someone / something that is on
>>> drugs.
>>> Maybe it will, maybe it won't but it's slow - slow - slow ...
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

I agree extremely dissatisfied with Win Mail on Vista and OE did not have
these problems. If an OE version came with Vista I would change my mind. My
retailer did not tell me before I bought the system that OE was not on it. I
found out the hard way after I pressed the on button. However, as the saying
goes no good deed goes unpunished.

I am transitioning to Thunderbird 2.0. It is free and does all the things
any good email client does. However, It did not import the Win Mail contacts
book correctly so I had to make minor adjustments to the email addresses I
wanted to keep. It was probably the way I asked it to format the file as it
defaulted to find
OE or Eudora address books and contacts automatically.

I am running both concurrently right now and I have to say the user tutorials
and user forums for TB are simpler and lots of more help available as open
source
world wide for that matter. Smaller program, faster, works easy with my AVG
and Firewall apps. Installation was simple and uncomplicated. I am no hack
or geek
either.

Still cannot figure out why win mail contacts result in "explorer has
stopped working"
error message when I try to delete them. The world may never know :-)

I have to agree, Quite amazing that MS can produce an OS as good as Vista
with a dark ages badly functioning emial client.

Any of my messages that are stored in subfolders have the same message body
when opened in Vista Mail. However if you actually open the messages up in
the mail storage folders with notepad, the correct text of the message is
there. Windows Mail doesn't seem to be writing the corrct message to the
client screen for some reason. Go figure.

Back to the safety of Theunderbird


"Jaffo" <Jaffo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:67BACBE0-5C4A-4C19-81C7-CC1AF67B8DAC@microsoft.com...
>
> I agree extremely dissatisfied with Win Mail on Vista and OE did not have
> these problems. If an OE version came with Vista I would change my mind.
> My
> retailer did not tell me before I bought the system that OE was not on it.
> I
> found out the hard way after I pressed the on button. However, as the
> saying
> goes no good deed goes unpunished.
>
> I am transitioning to Thunderbird 2.0. It is free and does all the things
> any good email client does. However, It did not import the Win Mail
> contacts
> book correctly so I had to make minor adjustments to the email addresses I
> wanted to keep. It was probably the way I asked it to format the file as
> it
> defaulted to find
> OE or Eudora address books and contacts automatically.
>
> I am running both concurrently right now and I have to say the user
> tutorials
> and user forums for TB are simpler and lots of more help available as open
> source
> world wide for that matter. Smaller program, faster, works easy with my
> AVG
> and Firewall apps. Installation was simple and uncomplicated. I am no
> hack
> or geek
> either.
>
> Still cannot figure out why win mail contacts result in "explorer has
> stopped working"
> error message when I try to delete them. The world may never know :-)
>
>

Hi Paul,

Try doing the steps at this link. It should help.

Windows Mail Slow

Shawn