Vista - windows mail - not storing rules

I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate occasions, but
each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them. The
next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when I go to
check the rules they are not listed.

Hi, dlrogue.

HOW do you "either go into hibernate or shut down"?

Someone asked today about the difference between Exiting WM (or WLM) before
shutting down, versus just hitting the Shut Down switch without closing WM
first. Maybe you've discovered one of the differences. :^{

When WM aborts for some reason, it does not get a chance to update its
indexes and other internal housekeeping. When it starts again, you may find
that messages you've already read are again marked Unread, and there may be
other anomalies - such as rules that haven't yet been filed permanently.

Next time you create the rules, exit WM before hibernating or shutting down,
and then restart it and see if your rules are still in place.

And please post back with your findings so that we will know what to tell
the next person who asks the same question. (In a newsgroup, we are the
student today, the teacher tomorrow. We all learn from each other. ;<) )

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A1985B3-7DCA-4E02-B7EA-3B825DBABC6C@microsoft.com...
>I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate occasions,
>but
> each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them. The
> next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when I go
> to
> check the rules they are not listed.

Hi RC,

I read this thread with interest. I have not noticed rules not being stored
when shutting down; but then I can't swear that they haven't either.

If my post is the one you were referring to re the difference between
exiting WM and shutting down, then I guess you may have answered my
question. Yes there is a difference. I suppose it's one of those things.

--

Delboy

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:4A07ED9A-E939-4EC3-AEBE-11DBD6D05A17@microsoft.com...
> Hi, dlrogue.
>
> HOW do you "either go into hibernate or shut down"?
>
> Someone asked today about the difference between Exiting WM (or WLM)
> before shutting down, versus just hitting the Shut Down switch without
> closing WM first. Maybe you've discovered one of the differences. :^{
>
> When WM aborts for some reason, it does not get a chance to update its
> indexes and other internal housekeeping. When it starts again, you may
> find that messages you've already read are again marked Unread, and there
> may be other anomalies - such as rules that haven't yet been filed
> permanently.
>
> Next time you create the rules, exit WM before hibernating or shutting
> down, and then restart it and see if your rules are still in place.
>
> And please post back with your findings so that we will know what to tell
> the next person who asks the same question. (In a newsgroup, we are the
> student today, the teacher tomorrow. We all learn from each other.
> ;<) )
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A1985B3-7DCA-4E02-B7EA-3B825DBABC6C@microsoft.com...
>>I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate occasions,
>>but
>> each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them.
>> The
>> next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when I
>> go to
>> check the rules they are not listed.
>

Hi, Delboy.

> If my post is the one you were referring to

Yes, that's the one. I see you have a response there from Shawn (aka
brink). It says approximately what I said - I think.

The WM/WLM Team probably needs to work on this some more before RTM.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Delboy" <spamfree.delboy.hoy@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:VcKdnXzM7pYUCwvbnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
> Hi RC,
>
> I read this thread with interest. I have not noticed rules not being
> stored when shutting down; but then I can't swear that they haven't
> either.
>
> If my post is the one you were referring to re the difference between
> exiting WM and shutting down, then I guess you may have answered my
> question. Yes there is a difference. I suppose it's one of those things.
>
> --
>
> Delboy
>
> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
>
> Douglas Adams
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:4A07ED9A-E939-4EC3-AEBE-11DBD6D05A17@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, dlrogue.
>>
>> HOW do you "either go into hibernate or shut down"?
>>
>> Someone asked today about the difference between Exiting WM (or WLM)
>> before shutting down, versus just hitting the Shut Down switch without
>> closing WM first. Maybe you've discovered one of the differences. :^{
>>
>> When WM aborts for some reason, it does not get a chance to update its
>> indexes and other internal housekeeping. When it starts again, you may
>> find that messages you've already read are again marked Unread, and there
>> may be other anomalies - such as rules that haven't yet been filed
>> permanently.
>>
>> Next time you create the rules, exit WM before hibernating or shutting
>> down, and then restart it and see if your rules are still in place.
>>
>> And please post back with your findings so that we will know what to tell
>> the next person who asks the same question. (In a newsgroup, we are the
>> student today, the teacher tomorrow. We all learn from each other.
>> <) )
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9A1985B3-7DCA-4E02-B7EA-3B825DBABC6C@microsoft.com...
>>>I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate occasions,
>>>but
>>> each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them.
>>> The
>>> next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when I
>>> go to
>>> check the rules they are not listed.

Thank you - that seems to have fixed it. You need to close out of WM in
order to save your changes/rules. I recreated my rules and then closed WM
and shut down the computer. After reboot my rules remained.

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Delboy.
>
> > If my post is the one you were referring to
>
> Yes, that's the one. I see you have a response there from Shawn (aka
> brink). It says approximately what I said - I think.
>
> The WM/WLM Team probably needs to work on this some more before RTM.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "Delboy" <spamfree.delboy.hoy@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:VcKdnXzM7pYUCwvbnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
> > Hi RC,
> >
> > I read this thread with interest. I have not noticed rules not being
> > stored when shutting down; but then I can't swear that they haven't
> > either.
> >
> > If my post is the one you were referring to re the difference between
> > exiting WM and shutting down, then I guess you may have answered my
> > question. Yes there is a difference. I suppose it's one of those things.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Delboy
> >
> > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
> > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
> >
> > Douglas Adams
> > "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> > news:4A07ED9A-E939-4EC3-AEBE-11DBD6D05A17@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi, dlrogue.
> >>
> >> HOW do you "either go into hibernate or shut down"?
> >>
> >> Someone asked today about the difference between Exiting WM (or WLM)
> >> before shutting down, versus just hitting the Shut Down switch without
> >> closing WM first. Maybe you've discovered one of the differences. :^{
> >>
> >> When WM aborts for some reason, it does not get a chance to update its
> >> indexes and other internal housekeeping. When it starts again, you may
> >> find that messages you've already read are again marked Unread, and there
> >> may be other anomalies - such as rules that haven't yet been filed
> >> permanently.
> >>
> >> Next time you create the rules, exit WM before hibernating or shutting
> >> down, and then restart it and see if your rules are still in place.
> >>
> >> And please post back with your findings so that we will know what to tell
> >> the next person who asks the same question. (In a newsgroup, we are the
> >> student today, the teacher tomorrow. We all learn from each other.
> >> <) )
> >>
> >> RC
> >>
> >> "dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9A1985B3-7DCA-4E02-B7EA-3B825DBABC6C@microsoft.com...
> >>>I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate occasions,
> >>>but
> >>> each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them.
> >>> The
> >>> next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when I
> >>> go to
> >>> check the rules they are not listed.
>

Hi, dlrogue.

I'm glad it's working for you. And thanks for the report back.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F67982CD-66A3-49EA-B09E-F00481D4B700@microsoft.com...
> Thank you - that seems to have fixed it. You need to close out of WM in
> order to save your changes/rules. I recreated my rules and then closed WM
> and shut down the computer. After reboot my rules remained.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Delboy.
>>
>> > If my post is the one you were referring to
>>
>> Yes, that's the one. I see you have a response there from Shawn (aka
>> brink). It says approximately what I said - I think.
>>
>> The WM/WLM Team probably needs to work on this some more before RTM.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Delboy" <spamfree.delboy.hoy@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:VcKdnXzM7pYUCwvbnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
>> > Hi RC,
>> >
>> > I read this thread with interest. I have not noticed rules not being
>> > stored when shutting down; but then I can't swear that they haven't
>> > either.
>> >
>> > If my post is the one you were referring to re the difference between
>> > exiting WM and shutting down, then I guess you may have answered my
>> > question. Yes there is a difference. I suppose it's one of those
>> > things.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Delboy
>> >
>> > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
>> > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
>> > fools.
>> >
>> > Douglas Adams
>> > "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4A07ED9A-E939-4EC3-AEBE-11DBD6D05A17@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hi, dlrogue.
>> >>
>> >> HOW do you "either go into hibernate or shut down"?
>> >>
>> >> Someone asked today about the difference between Exiting WM (or WLM)
>> >> before shutting down, versus just hitting the Shut Down switch without
>> >> closing WM first. Maybe you've discovered one of the differences.
>> >> :^{
>> >>
>> >> When WM aborts for some reason, it does not get a chance to update its
>> >> indexes and other internal housekeeping. When it starts again, you
>> >> may
>> >> find that messages you've already read are again marked Unread, and
>> >> there
>> >> may be other anomalies - such as rules that haven't yet been filed
>> >> permanently.
>> >>
>> >> Next time you create the rules, exit WM before hibernating or shutting
>> >> down, and then restart it and see if your rules are still in place.
>> >>
>> >> And please post back with your findings so that we will know what to
>> >> tell
>> >> the next person who asks the same question. (In a newsgroup, we are
>> >> the
>> >> student today, the teacher tomorrow. We all learn from each other.
>> >> <) )
>> >>
>> >> RC
>> >>
>> >> "dlrogue" <dlrogue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9A1985B3-7DCA-4E02-B7EA-3B825DBABC6C@microsoft.com...
>> >>>I have created message rules in windows mail on four separate
>> >>>occasions,
>> >>>but
>> >>> each time I either go into hibernate or shut down it must erase them.
>> >>> The
>> >>> next time I open mail it does not process my mail as desired and when
>> >>> I
>> >>> go to
>> >>> check the rules they are not listed.