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I've had no problem with either of them.


"Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:55:50 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
>> <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
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>>>If you are not happy with WM, Microsoft has offered you WLM as a free
>>>replacement.
>>
>> But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
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> I disagree. I've used it from day one without a single glitch.

Hi Nigel,

I have used both "Windows Mail" and now "Windows Live Mail Beta" without any problems from either one on x64 Vista Home Premium. Except "Windows Live Mail Beta" will not play a sound for new email, but that is trivial. The only reason I switched is for website email support.

Most of the problems for Windows Mail is caused by 3rd party programs that are not fully compatible with Vista and thus corrupt Windows Mail. Example: Norton & McAfee antivirus, and some programs like Spyblaster that fill up the restricted sites list.

Shawn

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:04:13 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
<gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:

>> But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
>
>No, I don't know that, or I would not be recommending it.

So you now *like* the multiple folders? The whole concept is flawed,
and it seems that MSFT are not going to do anything about it.

--
Nigel M

"Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup.com> wrote in message news:1aeq93d1gqsghom0d5uelhs3a7obed5rvn@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:04:13 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
> <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
>>
>>No, I don't know that, or I would not be recommending it.
>
> So you now *like* the multiple folders? The whole concept is flawed,
> and it seems that MSFT are not going to do anything about it.

No, I still don't like the multiple folders in WLM.
But on the whole, I prefer WLM at this time.
WM is just too buggy and unstable.
If WM ever gets its bugs fixed, I may go back to it.

Gary VanderMolen

I just got a new computer loaded with Vista the other day. Finally imported
by old e-mail folders and and started getting some really strange
results.....for example, couldn't move messages between folders, inbox
contents wouldn't appear. I disabled Macfee and evrythign appears to be
working again. I've re-enabled Macafee and we'll see what happens.

"brink" wrote:

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> Nigel Molesworth;385362 Wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:55:50 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
> > <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >If you are not happy with WM, Microsoft has offered you WLM as a free
> > replacement.
> >
> > But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
> >
> > --
> > Nigel M
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> I have used both "Windows Mail" and now "Windows Live Mail Beta"
> without any problems from either one on x64 Vista Home Premium. Except
> "Windows Live Mail Beta" will not play a sound for new email, but that
> is trivial. The only reason I switched is for website email support.
>
> Most of the problems for Windows Mail is caused by 3rd party programs
> that are not fully compatible with Vista and thus corrupt Windows Mail.
> Example: Norton & McAfee antivirus, and some programs like Spyblaster
> that fill up the restricted sites list.
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> '_www.Vistax64.com_' (http://www.vistax64.com)
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>

"Eini" <Eini@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B688FD13-9E20-4D4E-BC9C-135020CD0DA3@microsoft.com...
>I just got a new computer loaded with Vista the other day. Finally
>imported
> by old e-mail folders and and started getting some really strange
> results.....for example, couldn't move messages between folders, inbox
> contents wouldn't appear. I disabled Macfee and evrythign appears to be
> working again. I've re-enabled Macafee and we'll see what happens.

The experience of this group would suggest
that would be asking for trouble.


>
> "brink" wrote:
>
>>
>> Nigel Molesworth;385362 Wrote:
>> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:55:50 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
>> > <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > >If you are not happy with WM, Microsoft has offered you WLM as a free
>> > replacement.
>> >
>> > But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nigel M
>>
>> Hi Nigel,
>>
>> I have used both "Windows Mail" and now "Windows Live Mail Beta"
>> without any problems from either one on x64 Vista Home Premium. Except
>> "Windows Live Mail Beta" will not play a sound for new email, but that
>> is trivial. The only reason I switched is for website email support.
>>
>> Most of the problems for Windows Mail is caused by 3rd party programs
>> that are not fully compatible with Vista and thus corrupt Windows Mail.
>> Example: Norton & McAfee antivirus, and some programs like Spyblaster
>> that fill up the restricted sites list.
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
>> '_www.Vistax64.com_' (http://www.vistax64.com)
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>>

Hi Eini,

Make sure your antivirus program has all of it's email scanning options turned off. This is a redundant feature that can corrupt Windows Mail. Plus, you will still be protected by your antivirus's real-time resident monitoring protection. Norton and "McAfee" seem to be the worst offenders with Windows Mail problems even with email scanning off, while Avast or AVG has not had any problems reported so far.

Avast - http://avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

AVG - http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/us/frt/0?prd=aff

Shawn

The collective wisdom of this newsgroup indicates that even a 'disabled'
McAfee can cause problems with Windows Mail.

Gary VanderMolen

"Eini" <Eini@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B688FD13-9E20-4D4E-BC9C-135020CD0DA3@microsoft.com...
>I just got a new computer loaded with Vista the other day. Finally imported
> by old e-mail folders and and started getting some really strange
> results.....for example, couldn't move messages between folders, inbox
> contents wouldn't appear. I disabled Macfee and evrythign appears to be
> working again. I've re-enabled Macafee and we'll see what happens.

"Eini" <Eini@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B688FD13-9E20-4D4E-BC9C-135020CD0DA3@microsoft.com...
>I just got a new computer loaded with Vista the other day. Finally
>imported
> by old e-mail folders and and started getting some really strange
> results.....for example, couldn't move messages between folders, inbox
> contents wouldn't appear. I disabled Macfee and evrythign appears to be
> working again. I've re-enabled Macafee and we'll see what happens.
>
> "brink" wrote:
>
>>
>> Nigel Molesworth;385362 Wrote:
>> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:55:50 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen"
>> > <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > >If you are not happy with WM, Microsoft has offered you WLM as a free
>> > replacement.
>> >
>> > But you know as well as I do that it's a crock.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nigel M
>>
>> Hi Nigel,
>>
>> I have used both "Windows Mail" and now "Windows Live Mail Beta"
>> without any problems from either one on x64 Vista Home Premium. Except
>> "Windows Live Mail Beta" will not play a sound for new email, but that
>> is trivial. The only reason I switched is for website email support.
>>
>> Most of the problems for Windows Mail is caused by 3rd party programs
>> that are not fully compatible with Vista and thus corrupt Windows Mail.
>> Example: Norton & McAfee antivirus, and some programs like Spyblaster
>> that fill up the restricted sites list.
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
>> '_www.Vistax64.com_' (http://www.vistax64.com)
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>>

Email scanning should be turned off in any anti-virus. Also exclude EML
files from the scan. It provides no
protection not provided by the regular resident protection.
Besides that, McAfee and Norton are not compatible with Windows Mail and
should be uninstalled.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.