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Old 09-20-2007   #1 (permalink)
discohr


 
 

quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

If you hit reply on plain-text ISO-8859-2 mail the original text will be
quoted correctly:
Quote:

> This is original text
However, if original mail is UTF-8 encoded (Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=utf-8) quoting does not work at all:

This is original text

Typing your own replies into unquoted text results in "who typed what?"
situation.


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Old 09-20-2007   #2 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"discohr" <discohr@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9E5BD402-DE51-40E3-ACDB-A905A62EAF60@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If you hit reply on plain-text ISO-8859-2 mail the original text will be
> quoted correctly:
>
Quote:

> > This is original text
>
> However, if original mail is UTF-8 encoded (Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=utf-8) quoting does not work at all:
>
> This is original text
>
> Typing your own replies into unquoted text results in "who typed what?"
> situation.
>

Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be correct.

The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are replying
to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-20-2007   #3 (permalink)
discohr


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
Quote:

> Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be correct.
>
> The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are replying
> to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.
You're right. I overlooked the following header:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there any workaround for this quoted-printable problem?

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Old 09-20-2007   #4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"discohr" <discohr@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:979F6B3A-7B02-4D7C-98B5-A0F8206710CB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
Quote:

>> Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be correct.
>>
>> The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are replying
>> to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.
>
> You're right. I overlooked the following header:
>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Is there any workaround for this quoted-printable problem?
As far back as I can remember, Outlook Express was unable to indent
quoted text if the original used quoted-printable format. By comparison,
the Mozilla variants and other third party email clients never had this
limitation. I'll have to run some tests to see if this bug has been fixed in
Windows Live Mail.
--
Gary VanderMolen


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Old 09-20-2007   #5 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

Following up: I am happy to report that this long-standing bug
has been fixed in the current build of Windows Live Mail.

Gary VanderMolen


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OMAMA#6#HHA.3780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "discohr" <discohr@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:979F6B3A-7B02-4D7C-98B5-A0F8206710CB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
Quote:

>>> Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be correct.
>>>
>>> The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are replying
>>> to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.
>>
>> You're right. I overlooked the following header:
>>
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>
>> Is there any workaround for this quoted-printable problem?
>
> As far back as I can remember, Outlook Express was unable to indent
> quoted text if the original used quoted-printable format. By comparison,
> the Mozilla variants and other third party email clients never had this
> limitation. I'll have to run some tests to see if this bug has been fixed in
> Windows Live Mail.
> --
> Gary VanderMolen
>
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Old 09-20-2007   #6 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OMAMA%236%23HHA.3780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "discohr" <discohr@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:979F6B3A-7B02-4D7C-98B5-A0F8206710CB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
Quote:

>>> Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be correct.
>>>
>>> The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are replying
>>> to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.
>>
>> You're right. I overlooked the following header:
>>
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>
>> Is there any workaround for this quoted-printable problem?
>
> As far back as I can remember, Outlook Express was unable to indent
> quoted text if the original used quoted-printable format. By comparison,
> the Mozilla variants and other third party email clients never had this
> limitation. I'll have to run some tests to see if this bug has been fixed in
> Windows Live Mail.

This message should be MIME/Quoted Printable.
When it shows up here I'll reply in MIME/None.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-20-2007   #7 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:69948546-417E-4D50-B35E-29C530D91FAD@xxxxxx
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OMAMA%236%23HHA.3780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "discohr" <discohr@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:979F6B3A-7B02-4D7C-98B5-A0F8206710CB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
Quote:

>>> Your message was in UTF-8 as is this one and quoting seems to be
>>> correct.
>>>
>>> The only case where I know of a problem is if the message you are
>>> replying
>>> to was on MIME/Quoted Printable.
>>
>> You're right. I overlooked the following header:
>>
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>
>> Is there any workaround for this quoted-printable problem?
>
> As far back as I can remember, Outlook Express was unable to indent
> quoted text if the original used quoted-printable format. By comparison,
> the Mozilla variants and other third party email clients never had this
> limitation. I'll have to run some tests to see if this bug has been fixed
> in
> Windows Live Mail.

This message should be MIME/Quoted Printable.
When it shows up here I'll reply in MIME/None.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nope, not fixed.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-20-2007   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:69948546-417E-4D50-B35E-29C530D91FAD@xxxxxx
Quote:

> This message should be MIME/Quoted Printable.
> When it shows up here I'll reply in MIME/None.
Looks good here, but I'm using WLM.
My sending format uses QP for emails, but Uuencode for newsgroup posts.
--
Gary VanderMolen


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-20-2007   #9 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: quoting original text doesn't work if original mail is UTF-8

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ugOL$28%23HHA.1208@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:69948546-417E-4D50-B35E-29C530D91FAD@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> This message should be MIME/Quoted Printable.
>> When it shows up here I'll reply in MIME/None.
>
> Looks good here, but I'm using WLM.
> My sending format uses QP for emails, but Uuencode for newsgroup posts.
> --
> Gary VanderMolen
>
Okay, WLM has it fixed but WinMail doesn't.
*#$%^&*

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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