Vista - http server

Hi Guys
Just got my windows vista bata2 downloaded and burned to DVD, and installed.
All went well after i reburned it at slow speed.
But i have a problem with windows mail.
I have Qwest DSL and MSN Premium , which is http mail.
If i am reading corectly in this newsgroup , i gather it will not work , is
that right.
I only get the options of pop3 or imap , no http for server.
Am i hosed on useing outlook express ?
But it set up these newsgroups ok in windows mail on my http server.
Don't really want to use hotmail or MSN mail.
Can someone clue me in please.
thanks
Carl G

WinMail will not do HTTP mail. You can go to http://ideas.live.com and get
Windows Live Mail Desktop which does handle HTTP mail, at least Hotmail.com
and live.com addresses.

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"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news518C6FF-82D7-46CC-8472-CE72C94782A9@microsoft.com...
> Hi Guys
> Just got my windows vista bata2 downloaded and burned to DVD, and
> installed.
> All went well after i reburned it at slow speed.
> But i have a problem with windows mail.
> I have Qwest DSL and MSN Premium , which is http mail.
> If i am reading corectly in this newsgroup , i gather it will not work ,
> is that right.
> I only get the options of pop3 or imap , no http for server.
> Am i hosed on useing outlook express ?
> But it set up these newsgroups ok in windows mail on my http server.
> Don't really want to use hotmail or MSN mail.
> Can someone clue me in please.
> thanks
> Carl G

most likely willhave to use HotPop or somethng similar to retrieve hotmail in WM.



mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com



"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message news518C6FF-82D7-46CC-8472-CE72C94782A9@microsoft.com...
Hi Guys
Just got my windows vista bata2 downloaded and burned to DVD, and installed.
All went well after i reburned it at slow speed.
But i have a problem with windows mail.
I have Qwest DSL and MSN Premium , which is http mail.
If i am reading corectly in this newsgroup , i gather it will not work , is
that right.
I only get the options of pop3 or imap , no http for server.
Am i hosed on useing outlook express ?
But it set up these newsgroups ok in windows mail on my http server.
Don't really want to use hotmail or MSN mail.
Can someone clue me in please.
thanks
Carl G

Hi Guys
Thanks for the info.
But why does it use my server here for the newsgroups and won't for mail.
Just curious
"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news518C6FF-82D7-46CC-8472-CE72C94782A9@microsoft.com...
> Hi Guys
> Just got my windows vista bata2 downloaded and burned to DVD, and
> installed.
> All went well after i reburned it at slow speed.
> But i have a problem with windows mail.
> I have Qwest DSL and MSN Premium , which is http mail.
> If i am reading corectly in this newsgroup , i gather it will not work ,
> is that right.
> I only get the options of pop3 or imap , no http for server.
> Am i hosed on useing outlook express ?
> But it set up these newsgroups ok in windows mail on my http server.
> Don't really want to use hotmail or MSN mail.
> Can someone clue me in please.
> thanks
> Carl G

really simple, HTTP servfice ws removed from WM.
guess to get you to PAY for the service.



mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com



"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message news:80E8AD97-DA17-49DF-A82A-C1341C88774E@microsoft.com...
Hi Guys
Thanks for the info.
But why does it use my server here for the newsgroups and won't for mail.
Just curious
"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news518C6FF-82D7-46CC-8472-CE72C94782A9@microsoft.com...
> Hi Guys
> Just got my windows vista bata2 downloaded and burned to DVD, and
> installed.
> All went well after i reburned it at slow speed.
> But i have a problem with windows mail.
> I have Qwest DSL and MSN Premium , which is http mail.
> If i am reading corectly in this newsgroup , i gather it will not work ,
> is that right.
> I only get the options of pop3 or imap , no http for server.
> Am i hosed on useing outlook express ?
> But it set up these newsgroups ok in windows mail on my http server.
> Don't really want to use hotmail or MSN mail.
> Can someone clue me in please.
> thanks
> Carl G

And I'll buy that theory for someone such as myself who has a free Hotmail account that is "grandfathered" in so that Outlook (not Express) will interact with it, but Carl has a premium account that he is already paying for. I think MSFT is dropping the ball on this one.

I guess, Carl, one very temporary workaround would be to install Office Pro Beta 2007 and use Outlook. This Beta also expires some time in early 2007, so like I said, a very temporary fix.
"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message news:OXgPVBHoGHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
really simple, HTTP servfice ws removed from WM.
guess to get you to PAY for the service.

I just use HotPop. works great.



mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com



"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:66A96A30-2363-4C8E-8B71-554729AE3C93@microsoft.com...
And I'll buy that theory for someone such as myself who has a free Hotmail account that is "grandfathered" in so that Outlook (not Express) will interact with it, but Carl has a premium account that he is already paying for. I think MSFT is dropping the ball on this one.

I guess, Carl, one very temporary workaround would be to install Office Pro Beta 2007 and use Outlook. This Beta also expires some time in early 2007, so like I said, a very temporary fix.
"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message news:OXgPVBHoGHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
really simple, HTTP servfice ws removed from WM.
guess to get you to PAY for the service.

"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news:80E8AD97-DA17-49DF-A82A-C1341C88774E@microsoft.com...
> Hi Guys
> Thanks for the info.
> But why does it use my server here for the newsgroups and won't for mail.
> Just curious


Because news uses an NNTP server while HTTP mail uses an http server. The
two are not at all related.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Please reply in newsgroup. Do NOT send email.

Hi Frank
Thanks for the info on the servers,now i know.
I could install and run msn,but don't like all the clutter.
Can also use the hotmail in internet explorer.
Just got used to good old outlook express. (old dogs don't like to learn new
tricks)
Thanks again guys
Carl G
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:64A64876-16A0-499E-BDC8-27CDCEB7B8BF@microsoft.com...
> "Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:80E8AD97-DA17-49DF-A82A-C1341C88774E@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Guys
>> Thanks for the info.
>> But why does it use my server here for the newsgroups and won't for mail.
>> Just curious
>
>
> Because news uses an NNTP server while HTTP mail uses an http server. The
> two are not at all related.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Please reply in newsgroup. Do NOT send email.
>