Vista Tutorial - Opening multiple files

Once again, try reading my post before replying.

I stated quite clearly that you COULD open hundreds of files and it would
slow your machine down but that that is NOT what I'm trying to do. To open 20
x 100k files is not something that would tax any machine made in the last
five years or so or even older or are you suggesting it should? If so, why
has it not taxed any machine I've ever had so far, on any operating system so
far? If IE takes up 30 or 40MB just to be open, then why should 20 x 100k
files be a problem for image software? It shouldn't and it never has been
before. I haven't suddenly changed the way I use my computer, I take the same
pictures with the same camera or use the same sound files or whatever and was
always OK with Windows 2000 or XP, but in Vista, I am restricted by a false
ceiling. It's nothing to do with performance and I wish you'd just drop that,
you're just flat wrong, why can't you admit it?

Also, your answer doesn't at all address the problem of opening any more
than just one (1) file at a time with Open With... As soon as I select even
two files, the Open With... option disappears. Even two 1k text files. Are
you really trying to tell me that they disabled that deliberately because of
performance, and that they thought about that scenario and decided that
opening 2 x 1k files at once would be devastating? Get real mate, you're so
far wrong it's embarrassing.

Your post also does not address the problem of selecting more than 15 files
and hitting enter, and then getting a printer output screen, which is totally
the wrong screen and just shouldn't appear regardless of any argument you
make. If I select 16 songs in an album and hit enter, it shouldn't come up
with a print screen should it? No, it should launch my default mp3 player and
play the first track. Same with pictures. If I select one and hit enter, I
get Paintshop (my default image software), if I select two, same thing
happens. But if I select 16, I get this print screen nonsense. I've been a
techie since floppy disks were the size of dinner plates and hard drives were
something that needed two of you to unscrew and lift out, KSR drives on an
IBM Mainframe, remember them? No, thought not... I've seen, configured and
heavily abused every iteration of Windows and DOS for that matter since
Microsoft was a twinkle in Bill Gates's eye. Basically, this is a bug,
there's no two ways about it.

Blimey, it's like pulling hen's teeth...



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"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

Yes I did read your post and before I replied to it, I tried doing it the way way I told you, in 3 different photo programs and it brought up 20 or more photos in that program. One of these programs was Paintnet a freebee. Actually the only program that would not open the 20 pictures I tried to open from within the program itself program was "Paint". Even windows photo gallery open 20 pictures for me. Just an aside: I will leave it at that, I am not used to seeing such rudeness in forums. People here are just trying to help you.
Good luck and goodbye

I selected 80 photos files, hit Enter, and Windows Live Photo Gallery
opened.
Why anyone would want to open 20 instances of Notepad, when there are
numerous editors that can open multiple files, is beyond me.


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"dbknox" <dbknox.34n3o2@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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Please supply your email address and I will send you a Hypercam capture of my
experience which will show you what I'm experiencing - which is real.

As for understanding basic English I can't help you. If you can't read 20
lines of basic English language and understand the salient points and the
context thereof, there is nothing I can do for you. When I select 16 files or
more, hit enter, I get a Windows print screen app. I have done nothing to my
machine, changed no defaults, it is a bug. Or are you saying that your solo
experience is the end of all experiences that there are. That if you've never
been to Germany then Germany doesn't exist? That's what it sounds like to me.
That you've got a scenario that exists for you and therefore it must exist
for EVERYONE. Whereas I'm saying I have an experience that exists for me and
therefore MIGHT exist for SOME other people too and therefore be a problem,
i.e. a bug.

I am not responsible for your stupidity.

I can post pictures, screen captures or a video of the problem if you'd be
willing to look at it properly. But I'm thinking that you'd rather just stay
in your argument groove and try not to think. 'Sup to you, let me know, I'll
be happy to provide you with a vid or screen shots to show you what I mean.
Only question I have is, when you see what it is I'm talking about, will you
have the spine to just plainly admit that you're wrong and stupid for being
so belligerent? I doubt it somehow...

Let me know.

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"Dave" wrote:

To others: the definitive differential in the file opening experience is
based upon the application's shell association type. Legacy handlers are
limited to 15 selections by default for performance reasons. Applications
using modern shell association methods will not have this limitation.

"Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:74942163-DC36-4511-B50C-BB4A11C2E2F4@xxxxxxI apologize for any misinterpretation in my attempts to clarify what is
fairly evidently a Windows design. You're noticing a behavior, I was
pointing out Why It Works That Way, which I had hoped would be illuminative.

We're clearly not in disagreement over what happens here, right? The only
question here was why, which I had hoped to provide some relevant insight
upon. I apologize for failing in that regard.
I apologize: I did not mean to offend you in any fashion. I had thought
that because I'm on the shell team, know the people responsible for this,
and know the change in question, that my insight might be illuminative. I
realize opinions will always vary, and I do respect and value yours.
No, that's part of WYSIWII. What You Select Is What Is Invoked. The Open
With menu item only supports one selection, so it would be incorrect to make
it available.

I apologize if any of this seems indecisive: you may have a difference of
opinion, but this is definitively the way it works and why it works that
way.
OK: I had previously respected your difference of opinion by pointing out
that this behavior is by design for legacy style associations, and that if
you disagree with the current implementation, your best resource would be
actual Product Support where you could attempt to garner support for an
update of some sort. I think we've run the gamut from determining the
behavior, explaining the behavior, and a possible resolution to the
behavior, so I think we're likely done here.

I apologize for being inconsiderate and rude: it wasn't my intention. I've
worked with a variety of external companies to help advise them on file
association issues, and I apologize that in my developer eagerness to help
move you forward I was terse and forgot my manners.


It's interesting that it truncates the dialog at 15 units. I wonder if that
is a configurable unit? Too bad there are no Vista PowerToys. I wonder
what things one might find if one ran a registry monitor. =\

It is too bad that there are no Vista PowerToys. I enjoy that kind of thing
and enjoy tinkering with my system.

-Zach
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Why are you stubbornly trying to do something that Zach told you was removed
from Vista on purpose?
I do understand what you're saying... I don't understand why you would want
to.
I've seen this "issue" brought up twice in the past year, perhaps both times
by you. It's not needed nor wanted by most users, so MS removed the
capability.
Yes, you could do it in XP.
No, you can't normally do it in Vista. Except it did work for me with
photos & WLPG. Do you use WLPG?

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"Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK, I haven't read any new posts above as I'm tired of trolls. You're
obviously on a wind-up so I'm not gonna bother with you anymore. I'm going to
try and find another forum where people a)actually have some knowledge of MS
products - b)can and are willing to read English and understand things like
context and what the main points are - c)aren't just looking to wind people
up but genuinely want to help - d)don't deliberately seize on *an example*
and try and make that the main points because really they don't understand
and do not have an answer for the main points and they need to hide their
stupidity changing the focus.

Please do flame on as I'll not be back, you have no credibility and you
certainly haven't helped me, answered my questions or moved the diagnostic
process on at all. Is this what you do all day? Shouldn't you get out more?
Ta ra!


"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this....

Doc: Don't do that.

Patient: ow, ow, ow

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"Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I sincerely apologize for not answering whatever question(s) it was that you
felt I did not address. That was not my intention.

It's been pointed out in studies that it is extremely difficult to read
emotional tone in online communications, and I apologize that you have
misinterpreted mine. I gain nothing from being rude to anyone. Having
people understand the computing world better does potentially add value to
the world, though, which is why it's a sincere goal of mine to advance that
cause. For example if the application you are having trouble with was
convinced to add better shell integration with Windows, that would in some
small small way make the computing world a better and easier place, and I
support that goal.

Computers are a frightening and confusing mess to many (and by "many" I am
at least referring to my easily befuddled parents), and I do what I can to
help. I personally feel that file associations are a confusing area for
many vendors, which is why I consistently do what I can to help raise
understanding of how they work.

Anyways, no offense ever meant, and I apologize that I did not answer the
question(s) that you raised.

-Zach
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Wow...this finally explains what I've been researching for much of yesterday and today. Zach, am I understanding correctly that it is not possible with Vista to open different file types simultaneously? Not simply an option somewhere, but not possible at all? E.g., in the work that I do, I habitually open a *.doc, *.tiff, and *.dss all at the same time because they all relate to the one task I am working on.

Thanks much! I find it horribly aggravating, as opening and running multiple files was truly the primary reason I got such a souped up laptop in the first place, but if I've found an answer, at least I can get back to work and stop fussing with 'fixing' it.