Vista - .mov videos don't work in Vista, can't convert

PapaJohn--

According to the Microsoft Expressions website, we can download a trial
version of the Encoder. At the end of the trial, we can either buy the
program, or let it revert to the free Express version. I'm just looking for
something to convert .MOV files to something compatible with Windows Movie
Maker, preferably something other than .AVI.

Do you know if the Express version will still make the conversion, or is
that one of the functionalities that will be disabled at the end of the trial
period?

Thanks!

LisaR

"PapaJohn" wrote:

It'll continue to work... I'm running the Express version on my XP laptop
and just conversted an MOV file to check it.

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"LisaR" <LisaR@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Great! One more question--will it convert .3g2 files (my LG phone uses those
for video) to .WMV?

"PapaJohn" wrote:

the help file says it does.... but I'd like to test it. I'd like a 3g2 test
file, so email one and I'll let you know.

papajohn.....at..... chartermi...... dot..... net

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"LisaR" <LisaR@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Papa John:
You gave me good advice to "wait for automatic update of SP1 unless you
really need it", and want you to know I'm still waiting cuz I don't want to
download SP1 from Microsoft since now I know why it hasn't appeared on MY
automatic update. Mike Nash, Windows Product Management, has blog "Windows
Vista News" at link:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...vista-sp1.aspx ).
Nash says: "In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to
Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded
automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a
driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As
updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed
automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from
getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will
automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good
experience."
I must have some of those drivers that don't update correctly and since I
don't need any "bad experiences", I think I'll wait for SP1 to appear in
automatic Update.
If you want to hear lots of bad experiences trying to download SP1, check
out the windowsvistablog.com site and read about angry Vista users upset with
Microsoft because of many SP1 issues: not identifying which drivers don't
work, not fixing driver problems before release, no "official" one-stop
website to address issues and problems directly. MS could have sent notices
via auto-update about cause of delays and problems instead of allowing users
to spend useless hours trying to install or fix crashed systems. Very bad PR
for MS and their SP1.
Meanwhile, what is Microsoft Expressions? Is it something I can use to
convert MOV files to WMV? Does it need SP1 loaded first and will I still need
Quicktime? (which downloads needed and in what order?)
Thanks again, Papa John, for good advice and clear directions.
Still waiting,
Silverwire



"PapaJohn" wrote:

The following free online converter can
convert .mov files:

MediaConvert
http://media-convert.com/

Also you may find Super to be worth a try:

SUPER © Simplified
Universal Player Encoder & Renderer
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER_1
(the mirror download site is faster)

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Digital Media MVP

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I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
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Hi Silverwire,

Yes, the free trial and then the ongoing free Express version of the
Expression Encoder 2 can convert MOV files to WMV. It's now in first place
on my website's list of conversion tools for the file type.

http://www.microsoft.com/expression/...y=encoder2beta

It needs the SP1 version of XP (when you're ready for it someday).... and
the .net framework version 3.5 (which it'll download/install for you as part
of its instsallation)

To handle MOV files, it'll need codecs... if you don't have them,
downloading/installing iTunes, with the optional QuickTime Player... is
sufficient.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

thanks for the good words
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PapaJohn (MVP)
www.papajohn.org

"Silverwire" <Silverwire@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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PapaJohn:
Did you mean Vista instead of XP? You say "it" (Expressions) needs SP1
version of XP & the .net framework version 3.5 (which will be
dwnload/installed for me "when I'm ready".) Sure hope you meant Vista cuz I
never had XP. I bought HP Media Center system new last March 2007 with Vista
already installed. (sometimes wish I bought XP instead!) I'm ready, but it's
either Vista or drivers not ready!

The link I gave last week (Nash, Windows Product Mgmt) says problem with SP1
& Vista, not XP. Says no MS auto download of SP1 on Vista if drivers don't
pass some "use test" MS uses during auto update & no SP1 auto dwnload until
new compatible drivers available. Most who download from MS website say have
system crashes, probly frm those uncompatible drivers.

Many on forum really upset cuz MS won't say WHICH drivers don't work with
Vista & SP1. They want them ID'd so users put pressure on driver mfg's. to
make compatible w/Vista sooner. I would too if I knew which. Any idea which
drivers cause Vista problems? I think maybe my new HPC5180 printer I got same
time Vista. Sometimes printer freezes up Vista system, have to disconnect
&/or restart printer, sometimes delete print spool file to release system.

Trying to convert .mov files in Vista has really opened a can of snakes (not
worms!) for me & many others as I see on several forums. Guess I just look at
it as opportunity to learn but sure is time consuming! Hope MS & drivers get
compatible soon!
Thanks again for your patience and information.
Silverwire

"PapaJohn" wrote:

John:
Thanks for reply, but need to know if you are using MediaConvert on Vista?
If yes, did you have to download (or did MS auto download) SP1 to Vista? I
read Kim Komando's report on trying MediaConvert for some video files and she
said while it worked for her, it was rather complicated to use and I'm not
sure she converted .mov files.

Lots others on this and other forums offered advice for conversion programs
but none were specific to Vista and/or to converting .mov files except
PapaJohn. Most were for XP which I don't have, or for other types of files to
be converted. Most posts on .mov conversion are questions "how to" and horror
stories about trying to convert (with no solutions) or else they don't say
what OS they were using.

I use my computer daily for several groups emails and information
newsletters, and other stuff online every day so don't want to crash my
system which is what I see talked about on this and other forums where users
have tried many different programs to convert .mov files with very bad
results. Right now, I need my computer for all other stuff more than I have
to convert my .mov files although I sure would like to be able to convert a
few short videos I took on trip to China 2 years ago.

I could not find any Vista success stories till PapaJohn's reply plus I
found the MS forum which explained why I had not yet seen auto download of
SP1.

Thanks
Silverwire

"John Inzer" wrote:

Silverwire wrote:==================================
Working with video can be extremely confusing
and you just have to learn as much as you can
and make your own choices.

MediaConvert is an online converter and is
quite simple to use. You do not have to install
anything.

If you wish to try it...read the following:

1) In the "File" window...click the "Browse"
button and navigate to the .mov file you
wish to convert. When you select the
file...the path will appear in the 'File' field.

2) The "Input field" should automatically
show..."Apple Quicktime (.mov)" leave it
as is...

3) "Output format" has two drop windows...
the field on the left will display, "No video
preset"...leave it as is...

4) In the next drop window to the right
you can choose the format you wish to
convert to...try:

Audio Video Interleave (.avi)

5) Left click the blue OK button.

Now...wait for the file to be converted.
(be patient)

When the conversion is complete you will see:

File successfull converted !

Left click the Download button...the Save As
screen will appear...left click the Save button /
Choose a folder to save in...left click the Save
button. When the file is downloaded you should
be able to play it with Windows Media Player
and it should be compatible with Movie maker.

That's it! Good luck.

Not sure how the question on SP1 applies to this
issue. Maybe the following forum would be a better
place to discuss SP1:

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Use this forum for all issues related to Windows Vista SP1
http://tinyurl.com/2kd3fu
or...
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...1992&SiteID=17
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John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk