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09-16-2008   #1
2pods


 
 

Pictures corrupt

I found this on a MS board, but it's exactly what's happening to me.
Does anyone know what's happened ?

"When I copied pictures (using Windows Explorer) from my XP Desktop to my
Vista Laptop using an external hard drive about 10% of my files were
compressed horizontally (resulting in a narrow vertical band). This
appears in the thumbnail and when opened with Windows Photo Gallery.
There is no problem with opening these files with Windows Media Centre,
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, Paint, or Canon's Zoom Browser.

Interestingly, when I open Windows Explorer these corrupted thumbnails
briefly appear correctly, then switch to the compressed version."

TIA
P.
Q6600 2.4, 4gb ddr2, 512mb Radeon X1300


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09-16-2008   #2


Windows 7 RC x64 Vista HP x86
 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

not a remedy as such or an explanation but have you tried Windows Live photo gallery a free download from MS.
it has all the same options as WPG plus more. Also I believe that Microsoft has switched development to the live range of apps and aare not working on the vista included apps any more. I have seen this problem and i'm sure the live version didn't suffer
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09-16-2008   #3
2pods


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

"barman58" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> not a remedy as such or an explanation but have you tried Windows
> _-Live-_ photo gallery a free download from MS.
> it has all the same options as WPG plus more. Also I believe that
> Microsoft has switched development to the live range of apps and aare
> not working on the vista included apps any more. I have seen this
> problem and i'm sure the live version didn't suffer
>
>
> --
> barman58
It's actually OK in Photo Gallery, it's Explorer (not IE), that really
bothers me, as this is what I and probably most other people will use for
copying/moving files.

Has this bug showed up before, or is it and SP1 thing ?

p

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09-16-2008   #4


Windows 7 RC x64 Vista HP x86
 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

It may be an SP1 Thing - (un)fortunately I waited until SP1 came out before I installed Vista.

You may want to try rebuilding the icon Cache see if that helps - Info Here

I solved the problem when I had it ( only on 3 out of several thousand images) by simply editing and re-saving them
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09-16-2008   #5
2pods


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt


"barman58" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:3e0df4e5b72c4cdd83194a44026e224f@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> It may be an SP1 Thing - (un)fortunately I waited until SP1 came out
> before I installed Vista.
>
> You may want to try rebuilding the icon Cache see if that helps - Info
> 'Here'
> (Icon Cache - Rebuild)
>
> I solved the problem when I had it ( only on 3 out of several thousand
> images) by simply editing and re-saving them
>
Thanks, I'll try it.
re SP1: that was the version when I bought it.

P

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09-16-2008   #6
Jeff Richards


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

You have indicated that the images display correctly in most of your
viewers, but not in Photo Gallery and not as thumbnails. In that case, it
isn't an Explorer problem, but a Photo Gallery problem, or at least the
renderer that Photo Gallery uses. If these are JPG images then the problem
is in Photo Gallery's interpretation of the JPG standard - there are many
possible oddities in the way that the image data is stored in the JPG file,
and while most viewers seem to be OK with most variations, Photo Gallery
seems to be particularly fussy. I have a number of JPG files which other
viewers display without problems, but which Photo Gallery declares to be not
image data and refuses to display at all. In all cases, resaving the file
using any viewer that displays the image correctly fixes the problem.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"2pods" <munged@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "barman58" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:41b52cc9a87af0765537540cbc97112d@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>>
>> not a remedy as such or an explanation but have you tried Windows
>> _-Live-_ photo gallery a free download from MS.
>> it has all the same options as WPG plus more. Also I believe that
>> Microsoft has switched development to the live range of apps and aare
>> not working on the vista included apps any more. I have seen this
>> problem and i'm sure the live version didn't suffer
>>
>>
>> --
>> barman58
>
> It's actually OK in Photo Gallery, it's Explorer (not IE), that really
> bothers me, as this is what I and probably most other people will use for
> copying/moving files.
>
> Has this bug showed up before, or is it and SP1 thing ?
>
> p

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09-17-2008   #7
2pods


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt


"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O0UvKkEGJHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You have indicated that the images display correctly in most of your
> viewers, but not in Photo Gallery and not as thumbnails. In that case, it
> isn't an Explorer problem, but a Photo Gallery problem, or at least the
> renderer that Photo Gallery uses. If these are JPG images then the
> problem is in Photo Gallery's interpretation of the JPG standard - there
> are many possible oddities in the way that the image data is stored in the
> JPG file, and while most viewers seem to be OK with most variations, Photo
> Gallery seems to be particularly fussy. I have a number of JPG files
> which other viewers display without problems, but which Photo Gallery
> declares to be not image data and refuses to display at all. In all
> cases, resaving the file using any viewer that displays the image
> correctly fixes the problem.
> --
> Jeff Richards
Quote:
Quote:

>>
>> It's actually OK in Photo Gallery, it's Explorer (not IE), that really
>> bothers me, as this is what I and probably most other people will use for
>> copying/moving files.
>>
>> Has this bug showed up before, or is it and SP1 thing ?
>>
>> p
>
I had it the wrong way round, then corrected it.
i.e. the images are OK in photo gallery, but NOT in explorer.

p

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09-18-2008   #8
Jeff Richards


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

So it appears that the problem only occurs when the images are displayed as
Thumbnails in an Explorer window. This means that the resizing of the image
is being performed incorrectly. Does it occur for all thumbnail sizes? Does
it occur if you customize the folder and choose the image file to show on
the folder icon? You may be able to check where the problem is by opening
the image in one of your viewers and zooming out to about the size of the
thumbnail (or, in Photo Gallery, shrinking the window as much as possible) -
does the problem appear? Resaving the file from any viewer that displays
the image correctly should fix the problem.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"2pods" <munged@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O0UvKkEGJHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You have indicated that the images display correctly in most of your
>> viewers, but not in Photo Gallery and not as thumbnails. In that case,
>> it isn't an Explorer problem, but a Photo Gallery problem, or at least
>> the renderer that Photo Gallery uses. If these are JPG images then the
>> problem is in Photo Gallery's interpretation of the JPG standard - there
>> are many possible oddities in the way that the image data is stored in
>> the JPG file, and while most viewers seem to be OK with most variations,
>> Photo Gallery seems to be particularly fussy. I have a number of JPG
>> files which other viewers display without problems, but which Photo
>> Gallery declares to be not image data and refuses to display at all. In
>> all cases, resaving the file using any viewer that displays the image
>> correctly fixes the problem.
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>
>>> It's actually OK in Photo Gallery, it's Explorer (not IE), that really
>>> bothers me, as this is what I and probably most other people will use
>>> for copying/moving files.
>>>

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09-19-2008   #9
2pods


 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> So it appears that the problem only occurs when the images are displayed
> as Thumbnails in an Explorer window. This means that the resizing of the
> image is being performed incorrectly. Does it occur for all thumbnail
> sizes? Does it occur if you customize the folder and choose the image file
> to show on the folder icon? You may be able to check where the problem is
> by opening the image in one of your viewers and zooming out to about the
> size of the thumbnail (or, in Photo Gallery, shrinking the window as much
> as possible) - does the problem appear? Resaving the file from any viewer
> that displays the image correctly should fix the problem.
> --
No, maybe I didn't explain properly.
When I open the folder I see "normal" thumbnails, that rapidly change to
look as if someone had pushed both sides in towards each other until all I
can see is a thin vertical line.
If the thumbnail is double clicked it doesn't display correctly.
It's just a full sized version of the thumbnail

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09-19-2008   #10


Windows 7 RC x64 Vista HP x86
 
 

Re: Pictures corrupt

Just for info.

When I had this problem on a few files it turned out that the thumbnail was correctly displaying the JPG file but the file itself was corrupted.

when I looked into the file itself the corruption was actually in the pixel size ratio with the vertical to horizontal ratio being set to about 11000:1 not 1:1 thus having the effect of compressing the resultant image horizontally. when I reset this ratio to the correct 1:1 all the data was there and the image displayed correctly. Saving the file solved the problem. certain other graphics applications displayed correctly anyway and the simple act of loading and saving the image in one of these would cure the problem. of course this did degrade the image due to the jpeg compression algorithm.

This appears to be a problem by the act of copying from XP to Vista.
I would like to hear any comments from someone with better knowledge of the differences between XP and Vista's handling of JPG images within Explorer. It was a minor irritation to myself as the involved files were only a very small number. but I can see where 10% of a thousands of images would cause annoyance.

Last edited by barman58; 09-19-2008 at 07:19 AM..
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