Vista - Photo Gallery rotate changes EXIF 'acquisition date'

Hi

Has anyone else noticed that using Photo Gallery to rotate an image that was
captured days/weeks/months before changes the EXIF 'Acquisition Date' to the
date on which you perform the rotate operation?

This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any rotate
operations on old images. I've got a whole bunch that I took a couple of
years ago now showing up as having been acquired 'today'!

Good thing I have a backup of my images ;-)

Cheers

SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:34:44 +0200]:
>This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any rotate

Assuming you can order by filename:

Add the date to the filenames. If you prefix with
the date you can always see them in order, no matter
what happens later:

yymmdd_...
060606_mypic.jpg
060607_mynewpic.jpg

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Thanks for the suggestion, although I'm not going to implement it.

I've filed a bug report on this, was just wondering whether anyone else can
confirm this bug and will also hopefully file a bug to make sure that
Microsoft notices.

Cheers

<hel@40th.com> wrote in message
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> SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:34:44 +0200]:
> >This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any
> >rotate
>
> Assuming you can order by filename:
>
> Add the date to the filenames. If you prefix with
> the date you can always see them in order, no matter
> what happens later:
>
> yymmdd_...
> 060606_mypic.jpg
> 060607_mynewpic.jpg
>
> --
> 40th Floor - Software @ http://40th.com/
> iPlay : the ultimate audio player for mobiles
> parametric eq, xfeed, reverb; all on a mobile

SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:21:32 +0200]:
>Thanks for the suggestion, although I'm not going to implement it.

How about

attrib +R *.jpg /s

I don't think this would be called a bug --
more like "by design", at least at this stage
and for that type of problem.

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If I make all my images read-only how am I going to add tags etc.

Not sure how this could be "by design", if I took the digital image 2 years
ago and then rotate it today it doesn't make any sense to set the EXIF
"Acquisition Date" to today. So now I have a handful of say birthday party
photos that don't group together with the other 2 year old birthday party
photos acquired at the same time.

And I'm not talking about the filesystem's last modified date, I'm talking
about the embedded EXIF "Acquisition Date" field, i.e. the date the image
was acquired by the digital camera.

Cheers

<hel@40th.com> wrote in message
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> SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:21:32 +0200]:
> >Thanks for the suggestion, although I'm not going to implement it.
>
> How about
>
> attrib +R *.jpg /s
>
> I don't think this would be called a bug --
> more like "by design", at least at this stage
> and for that type of problem.
>
> --
> 40th Floor - Software @ http://40th.com/
> iPlay : the ultimate audio player for mobiles
> parametric eq, xfeed, reverb; all on a mobile

"By design", or "Postponed", anything but what
you expect, is sort of like "the check's in the
mail". Well, considering this probably won't
get fixed (unless a lot of people complain real
soon), what I would do is write a little program
that stored all the info I wanted preserved to a
database (flat file, whatever) and restore the
jpeg files' info at the press of a button.

SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:48:22 +0200]:
>If I make all my images read-only how am I going to add tags etc.
>And I'm not talking about the filesystem's last modified date, I'm talking

Yes, I know.

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I guess I'm not as pessimistic as you ;-)

Anyway can you confirm you see this same problem?

And the reason I'm posting here is to confirm whether other users are seeing
the same problem, or if it's a specific issue on my machine. And if others
are then to encourage them to also file a bug report.

Cheers

<hel@40th.com> wrote in message
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> "By design", or "Postponed", anything but what
> you expect, is sort of like "the check's in the
> mail". Well, considering this probably won't
> get fixed (unless a lot of people complain real
> soon), what I would do is write a little program
> that stored all the info I wanted preserved to a
> database (flat file, whatever) and restore the
> jpeg files' info at the press of a button.
>
> SM- [Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:48:22 +0200]:
> >If I make all my images read-only how am I going to add tags etc.
> >And I'm not talking about the filesystem's last modified date, I'm
> >talking
>
> Yes, I know.
>
> --
> 40th Floor - Software @ http://40th.com/
> iPlay : the ultimate audio player for mobiles
> parametric eq, xfeed, reverb; all on a mobile

Sean,

THanks for reporting this issue. We have confirmed this issue and are
currently investigating it. Please look for an update.

Jason Flaks
Lead Program Manager
PIX User Experience
Microsoft

"Sean McLeod" wrote:

> Hi
>
> Has anyone else noticed that using Photo Gallery to rotate an image that was
> captured days/weeks/months before changes the EXIF 'Acquisition Date' to the
> date on which you perform the rotate operation?
>
> This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any rotate
> operations on old images. I've got a whole bunch that I took a couple of
> years ago now showing up as having been acquired 'today'!
>
> Good thing I have a backup of my images ;-)
>
> Cheers
>

Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I'm looking forward to using the new
tagging facilities with integrated search etc. for my digital image library
of thousands of images, and this bug would be a deal breaker.

When you say look out for an update are you talking along the lines of a
Windows Update update to fix this for beta2 users or are you talking more
about it being fixed in the RC1 release?

Cheers

"Jason Flaks [Microsoft]" <JasonFlaksMicrosoft@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:9E11C9D3-5616-4AF8-9AB0-AE92157760E3@microsoft.com...
> Sean,
>
> THanks for reporting this issue. We have confirmed this issue and are
> currently investigating it. Please look for an update.
>
> Jason Flaks
> Lead Program Manager
> PIX User Experience
> Microsoft
>
> "Sean McLeod" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed that using Photo Gallery to rotate an image that
>> was
>> captured days/weeks/months before changes the EXIF 'Acquisition Date' to
>> the
>> date on which you perform the rotate operation?
>>
>> This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any
>> rotate
>> operations on old images. I've got a whole bunch that I took a couple of
>> years ago now showing up as having been acquired 'today'!
>>
>> Good thing I have a backup of my images ;-)
>>
>> Cheers
>>

Sorry for being unclear. Look for an update post/email from me (or another
MS employee on the team) on the issue. We have repro'd the issue on beta 2
and current builds and we are confirming why the issue exists and what we can
possibly do about it.

Thanks again for reporting this

"Sean McLeod" wrote:

> Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I'm looking forward to using the new
> tagging facilities with integrated search etc. for my digital image library
> of thousands of images, and this bug would be a deal breaker.
>
> When you say look out for an update are you talking along the lines of a
> Windows Update update to fix this for beta2 users or are you talking more
> about it being fixed in the RC1 release?
>
> Cheers
>
> "Jason Flaks [Microsoft]" <JasonFlaksMicrosoft@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in message news:9E11C9D3-5616-4AF8-9AB0-AE92157760E3@microsoft.com...
> > Sean,
> >
> > THanks for reporting this issue. We have confirmed this issue and are
> > currently investigating it. Please look for an update.
> >
> > Jason Flaks
> > Lead Program Manager
> > PIX User Experience
> > Microsoft
> >
> > "Sean McLeod" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Has anyone else noticed that using Photo Gallery to rotate an image that
> >> was
> >> captured days/weeks/months before changes the EXIF 'Acquisition Date' to
> >> the
> >> date on which you perform the rotate operation?
> >>
> >> This really messes up the date sorting/grouping after you perform any
> >> rotate
> >> operations on old images. I've got a whole bunch that I took a couple of
> >> years ago now showing up as having been acquired 'today'!
> >>
> >> Good thing I have a backup of my images ;-)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
>