Vista Tutorial - Photo Gallery's search box not consistent with regular Windows Search

Hi

I've been tagging a number of my images and performing some test queries
against them. I've been using a combination of:

- Windows Search UI via Start->Search the Index
- Windows Gallery GUI to select/mutliple select tags on the left pane
- Windows Gallery Search box

What I've noticed is that the Windows Gallery Search box doesn't accept the
same query syntax as the Windows Search UI. For example the following is
allowed in the Windows Search UI but doesn't return any results in Windows
Gallery.

tag:quinton tag:marcelle

In Windows Gallery this fails to return pictures tagged with marcelle or
quinton.

Typing just quinton by itself works, so it seems to match the text against
tags automatically and against filenames.

However I can't get this to work in the search box "quinton or marcelle" or
"quinton and marcelle". It's probably seeing the complete query text as a
single tag/filename.

Is there any documentation on the query syntax and options for the search
box in Windows Gallery?

Any reason it isn't consistent with regular Windows Search? I can understand
allowing shortcuts like not having to specify 'tag' but assuming it as a
default, but I think it should in addition support the Windows Search UI
syntax as well.

Cheers

Might want to bug this ) Available options here:
http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport

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"Sean McLeod" <seanmcleod@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:CE8B8131-92A0-4023-B18C-EA67E7726557@microsoft.com...
> Hi
>
> I've been tagging a number of my images and performing some test queries
> against them. I've been using a combination of:
>
> - Windows Search UI via Start->Search the Index
> - Windows Gallery GUI to select/mutliple select tags on the left pane
> - Windows Gallery Search box
>
> What I've noticed is that the Windows Gallery Search box doesn't accept
> the same query syntax as the Windows Search UI. For example the following
> is allowed in the Windows Search UI but doesn't return any results in
> Windows Gallery.
>
> tag:quinton tag:marcelle
>
> In Windows Gallery this fails to return pictures tagged with marcelle or
> quinton.
>
> Typing just quinton by itself works, so it seems to match the text against
> tags automatically and against filenames.
>
> However I can't get this to work in the search box "quinton or marcelle"
> or "quinton and marcelle". It's probably seeing the complete query text as
> a single tag/filename.
>
> Is there any documentation on the query syntax and options for the search
> box in Windows Gallery?
>
> Any reason it isn't consistent with regular Windows Search? I can
> understand allowing shortcuts like not having to specify 'tag' but
> assuming it as a default, but I think it should in addition support the
> Windows Search UI syntax as well.
>
> Cheers

Indeed, feel free to bug it.

I've also forwarded this to the program manager responsible for the gallery
search feature. I'll post a reply when I hear back from him.

-J

--
Thank!
John Thornton
Program Manager - Vista Photos Imaging and eXperience

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"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Might want to bug this ) Available options here:
> http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Sean McLeod" <seanmcleod@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> news:CE8B8131-92A0-4023-B18C-EA67E7726557@microsoft.com...
>> Hi
>>
>> I've been tagging a number of my images and performing some test queries
>> against them. I've been using a combination of:
>>
>> - Windows Search UI via Start->Search the Index
>> - Windows Gallery GUI to select/mutliple select tags on the left pane
>> - Windows Gallery Search box
>>
>> What I've noticed is that the Windows Gallery Search box doesn't accept
>> the same query syntax as the Windows Search UI. For example the following
>> is allowed in the Windows Search UI but doesn't return any results in
>> Windows Gallery.
>>
>> tag:quinton tag:marcelle
>>
>> In Windows Gallery this fails to return pictures tagged with marcelle or
>> quinton.
>>
>> Typing just quinton by itself works, so it seems to match the text
>> against tags automatically and against filenames.
>>
>> However I can't get this to work in the search box "quinton or marcelle"
>> or "quinton and marcelle". It's probably seeing the complete query text
>> as a single tag/filename.
>>
>> Is there any documentation on the query syntax and options for the search
>> box in Windows Gallery?
>>
>> Any reason it isn't consistent with regular Windows Search? I can
>> understand allowing shortcuts like not having to specify 'tag' but
>> assuming it as a default, but I think it should in addition support the
>> Windows Search UI syntax as well.
>>
>> Cheers
>
>

The Windows Photo Gallery did not implement the advanced query syntax that
Shell implemented due to limitations in our architecture. There is no query
syntax in the Photo Gallery, all terms are and'ed together automatically.

Thank!
John Thornton
Program Manager - Vista Photos Imaging and eXperience

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"John Thornton [MSFT]" <johnthor@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u5XHmj9iGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Indeed, feel free to bug it.
>
> I've also forwarded this to the program manager responsible for the
> gallery search feature. I'll post a reply when I hear back from him.
>
> -J
>
> --
> Thank!
> John Thornton
> Program Manager - Vista Photos Imaging and eXperience
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ug%23fsVziGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Might want to bug this ) Available options here:
>> http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
>> that up!
>>
>> --: Original message follows :--
>> "Sean McLeod" <seanmcleod@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:CE8B8131-92A0-4023-B18C-EA67E7726557@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I've been tagging a number of my images and performing some test queries
>>> against them. I've been using a combination of:
>>>
>>> - Windows Search UI via Start->Search the Index
>>> - Windows Gallery GUI to select/mutliple select tags on the left pane
>>> - Windows Gallery Search box
>>>
>>> What I've noticed is that the Windows Gallery Search box doesn't accept
>>> the same query syntax as the Windows Search UI. For example the
>>> following is allowed in the Windows Search UI but doesn't return any
>>> results in Windows Gallery.
>>>
>>> tag:quinton tag:marcelle
>>>
>>> In Windows Gallery this fails to return pictures tagged with marcelle or
>>> quinton.
>>>
>>> Typing just quinton by itself works, so it seems to match the text
>>> against tags automatically and against filenames.
>>>
>>> However I can't get this to work in the search box "quinton or marcelle"
>>> or "quinton and marcelle". It's probably seeing the complete query text
>>> as a single tag/filename.
>>>
>>> Is there any documentation on the query syntax and options for the
>>> search box in Windows Gallery?
>>>
>>> Any reason it isn't consistent with regular Windows Search? I can
>>> understand allowing shortcuts like not having to specify 'tag' but
>>> assuming it as a default, but I think it should in addition support the
>>> Windows Search UI syntax as well.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>

Yep thats a pity and a bit inconsistent between the UI tag selection in
Photo Gallery and the search box in Photo Gallery.

For example clicking on mutliple tags in the UI results in a search or'ing
the selected tags, where as typing in the same set of tags in the search box
results in an and'ing of them.

Cheers

"John Thornton [MSFT]" <johnthor@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OwjFD49iGHA.412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The Windows Photo Gallery did not implement the advanced query syntax that
> Shell implemented due to limitations in our architecture. There is no
> query syntax in the Photo Gallery, all terms are and'ed together
> automatically.
>
> Thank!
> John Thornton
> Program Manager - Vista Photos Imaging and eXperience
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> "John Thornton [MSFT]" <johnthor@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u5XHmj9iGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Indeed, feel free to bug it.
>>
>> I've also forwarded this to the program manager responsible for the
>> gallery search feature. I'll post a reply when I hear back from him.
>>
>> -J
>>
>> --
>> Thank!
>> John Thornton
>> Program Manager - Vista Photos Imaging and eXperience
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ug%23fsVziGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Might want to bug this ) Available options here:
>>> http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>> cleared
>>> that up!
>>>
>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>> "Sean McLeod" <seanmcleod@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:CE8B8131-92A0-4023-B18C-EA67E7726557@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I've been tagging a number of my images and performing some test
>>>> queries against them. I've been using a combination of:
>>>>
>>>> - Windows Search UI via Start->Search the Index
>>>> - Windows Gallery GUI to select/mutliple select tags on the left pane
>>>> - Windows Gallery Search box
>>>>
>>>> What I've noticed is that the Windows Gallery Search box doesn't accept
>>>> the same query syntax as the Windows Search UI. For example the
>>>> following is allowed in the Windows Search UI but doesn't return any
>>>> results in Windows Gallery.
>>>>
>>>> tag:quinton tag:marcelle
>>>>
>>>> In Windows Gallery this fails to return pictures tagged with marcelle
>>>> or quinton.
>>>>
>>>> Typing just quinton by itself works, so it seems to match the text
>>>> against tags automatically and against filenames.
>>>>
>>>> However I can't get this to work in the search box "quinton or
>>>> marcelle" or "quinton and marcelle". It's probably seeing the complete
>>>> query text as a single tag/filename.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any documentation on the query syntax and options for the
>>>> search box in Windows Gallery?
>>>>
>>>> Any reason it isn't consistent with regular Windows Search? I can
>>>> understand allowing shortcuts like not having to specify 'tag' but
>>>> assuming it as a default, but I think it should in addition support the
>>>> Windows Search UI syntax as well.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>
>