Vista - Windows Photo Gallery (WPG) - appalling display quality

I just tried opening my custom wallpaper picture in Paint, saved it as a new
file, and opened it in Photo Gallery.... and they all look the same.
--
website references are to www.papajohn.org

PapaJohn

"Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
>
> Original Pic:
> http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
>
> as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
>
> See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
>
> Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all the
> time with XP
>
> Thank you............
>
> "Redbeaver" wrote:
>
>> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
>> home....
>> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
>>
>> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
>> button,
>> here goes:
>>
>> My system:
>> AMD X2 3800+
>> 2Gb RAM
>> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
>> Samsung 205BW
>> Vista Ultimate OEM
>>
>> Thanks!

Nope... didnt help

My original format was BMP, saved it as JPG from Paint, closed paint,
reopen, and it shows the same colour. then i doubleclick (automatically
opened with WPG), and it still shows the darker-tone version like my link
above...

but thanks though

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> I just tried opening my custom wallpaper picture in Paint, saved it as a new
> file, and opened it in Photo Gallery.... and they all look the same.
> --
> website references are to www.papajohn.org
>
> PapaJohn
>
> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
> >
> > Original Pic:
> > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
> >
> > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
> >
> > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
> >
> > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all the
> > time with XP
> >
> > Thank you............
> >
> > "Redbeaver" wrote:
> >
> >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
> >> home....
> >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
> >>
> >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
> >> button,
> >> here goes:
> >>
> >> My system:
> >> AMD X2 3800+
> >> 2Gb RAM
> >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
> >> Samsung 205BW
> >> Vista Ultimate OEM
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>

Redbeaver,

I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in Exlorer
AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
Gallery!

In Windows Photo Gallery:
1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
monitored image)
2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
center right of the image
3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).

Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To the
novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery (to
manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by this
Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
like it.

-Michael

"
>
> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
> >
> > Original Pic:
> > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
> >
> > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
> >
> > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
> >
> > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all the
> > time with XP
> >
> > Thank you............
> >
> > "Redbeaver" wrote:
> >
> >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
> >> home....
> >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
> >>
> >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
> >> button,
> >> here goes:
> >>
> >> My system:
> >> AMD X2 3800+
> >> 2Gb RAM
> >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
> >> Samsung 205BW
> >> Vista Ultimate OEM
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>

That's why I love free markets. The more non-Microsoft solutions there are
to problems with Vista, the more Microsoft will learn to listen to its true
customers over and above its partners.

Dale

"Michael J" <MichaelJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:854D98CF-E011-4620-A9F7-D59BD6C84261@microsoft.com...
> Redbeaver,
>
> I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
> Exlorer
> AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
> Gallery!
>
> In Windows Photo Gallery:
> 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
> monitored image)
> 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
> center right of the image
> 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
> Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
>
> Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To the
> novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
> photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
> problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
> Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery
> (to
> manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by this
> Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
> like it.
>
> -Michael
>
> "
>>
>> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
>> > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
>> >
>> > Original Pic:
>> > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
>> >
>> > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
>> > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
>> >
>> > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
>> >
>> > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all
>> > the
>> > time with XP
>> >
>> > Thank you............
>> >
>> > "Redbeaver" wrote:
>> >
>> >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
>> >> home....
>> >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
>> >>
>> >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
>> >> button,
>> >> here goes:
>> >>
>> >> My system:
>> >> AMD X2 3800+
>> >> 2Gb RAM
>> >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
>> >> Samsung 205BW
>> >> Vista Ultimate OEM
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the reply. Good to see I'm not alone in this boat

Yeah, I just installed Photoshop CS2 now, and I couldnt do anything about
the ICC profile. PS noted that the profile isn't right, so I chose 'Do Not
Use' instead of 'Use Anyway'. But then it shows nicely, unlike WPG.

Yeah, thats why I posted here so hopefully MS can do something about this.

Regards,
Dave


"Michael J" wrote:

> Redbeaver,
>
> I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in Exlorer
> AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
> Gallery!
>
> In Windows Photo Gallery:
> 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
> monitored image)
> 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
> center right of the image
> 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
> Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
>
> Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To the
> novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
> photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
> problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
> Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery (to
> manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by this
> Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
> like it.
>
> -Michael
>
> "
> >
> > "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> > > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
> > >
> > > Original Pic:
> > > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
> > >
> > > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> > > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
> > >
> > > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
> > >
> > > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all the
> > > time with XP
> > >
> > > Thank you............
> > >
> > > "Redbeaver" wrote:
> > >
> > >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
> > >> home....
> > >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
> > >>
> > >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
> > >> button,
> > >> here goes:
> > >>
> > >> My system:
> > >> AMD X2 3800+
> > >> 2Gb RAM
> > >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
> > >> Samsung 205BW
> > >> Vista Ultimate OEM
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> >
> >
> >

I FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!!



First off, there r 2 solutions i discovered...one is if u have Photoshop
installed, the other if you don't.

If you do have, in Control Panel, there's an Adobe Gamma tool. Run it by
step-by-step wizard (or by Control Panel if u know what u'r doing) and create
ur own Profile. Name it anything, i name mine Vista-1 just so its easier to
see. It will create an ICM profile immediately installed in Window's
system32-spool-color folder (given u dont change the saving location. better
yet, dont even try.). Done?
Back in Vista's control panel, open the Colour Management tool. In there
u'll see the default ICC profile, mine named Samsung - Natural Color Pro 1.0
ICM, file name SM205BW.icm since my monitor is a Samsung 205BW. Click on
Add.., and if you scroll down, u'll see ur profile; again, mine said Vista-1.
U might need to click on Browse.. if u dont see yours becoz u saved it
somewhere else...
[Now, this part i'm not sure whether u need to do it, but i did it
anyway.... Click on the Profiles button on the right bottom corner and click
on Combine My Settings with System Defaults. then...]
Click OK, and click on Vista-1 and click on Set as Default Profile. Click
Close.

Now try opening a picture in WPG

Ooops, almost forgot, for people who doesnt have Photoshop, u can google any
free ICC profile or go to:
http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/adobergb.html
Download these free ICC, and install some..or..well... i tried installing
all of them anyway... Just extract them, then right click and select
Install...

Now go to Vista Control Panel, open Color Management, and click on Add...
Scroll down and all of the installed ICC should be there. Pick one and set it
default. [Again, u could click on Profiles and select Combine My Profile...
but im not sure about this.] Click Close and you're good to go.

Of course if it still shows the wrong colour just pick a different ICC and
try it. First ICC i tried is the Adobe1998 one and it seems to be working
fine... Of course im no expert and if any of u experts sees the better ICC in
there (there r like 10~15 of them in the ZIP), by all means correct me.

THat's all.

Hope that helps


"Dale" wrote:

> That's why I love free markets. The more non-Microsoft solutions there are
> to problems with Vista, the more Microsoft will learn to listen to its true
> customers over and above its partners.
>
> Dale
>
> "Michael J" <MichaelJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:854D98CF-E011-4620-A9F7-D59BD6C84261@microsoft.com...
> > Redbeaver,
> >
> > I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
> > Exlorer
> > AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
> > Gallery!
> >
> > In Windows Photo Gallery:
> > 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
> > monitored image)
> > 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
> > center right of the image
> > 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
> > Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
> >
> > Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To the
> > novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
> > photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
> > problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
> > Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery
> > (to
> > manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by this
> > Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
> > like it.
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> > "
> >>
> >> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> >> > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
> >> >
> >> > Original Pic:
> >> > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
> >> >
> >> > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> >> > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
> >> >
> >> > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
> >> >
> >> > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use all
> >> > the
> >> > time with XP
> >> >
> >> > Thank you............
> >> >
> >> > "Redbeaver" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
> >> >> home....
> >> >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
> >> >>
> >> >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
> >> >> button,
> >> >> here goes:
> >> >>
> >> >> My system:
> >> >> AMD X2 3800+
> >> >> 2Gb RAM
> >> >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
> >> >> Samsung 205BW
> >> >> Vista Ultimate OEM
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Good find, furry one. Thanks for posting it!

Dale

"Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5818C44C-B1CE-40DC-AD57-378B89031B1D@microsoft.com...
>I FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!!
>
>
>
> First off, there r 2 solutions i discovered...one is if u have Photoshop
> installed, the other if you don't.
>
> If you do have, in Control Panel, there's an Adobe Gamma tool. Run it by
> step-by-step wizard (or by Control Panel if u know what u'r doing) and
> create
> ur own Profile. Name it anything, i name mine Vista-1 just so its easier
> to
> see. It will create an ICM profile immediately installed in Window's
> system32-spool-color folder (given u dont change the saving location.
> better
> yet, dont even try.). Done?
> Back in Vista's control panel, open the Colour Management tool. In there
> u'll see the default ICC profile, mine named Samsung - Natural Color Pro
> 1.0
> ICM, file name SM205BW.icm since my monitor is a Samsung 205BW. Click on
> Add.., and if you scroll down, u'll see ur profile; again, mine said
> Vista-1.
> U might need to click on Browse.. if u dont see yours becoz u saved it
> somewhere else...
> [Now, this part i'm not sure whether u need to do it, but i did it
> anyway.... Click on the Profiles button on the right bottom corner and
> click
> on Combine My Settings with System Defaults. then...]
> Click OK, and click on Vista-1 and click on Set as Default Profile. Click
> Close.
>
> Now try opening a picture in WPG
>
> Ooops, almost forgot, for people who doesnt have Photoshop, u can google
> any
> free ICC profile or go to:
> http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/adobergb.html
> Download these free ICC, and install some..or..well... i tried installing
> all of them anyway... Just extract them, then right click and select
> Install...
>
> Now go to Vista Control Panel, open Color Management, and click on Add...
> Scroll down and all of the installed ICC should be there. Pick one and set
> it
> default. [Again, u could click on Profiles and select Combine My
> Profile...
> but im not sure about this.] Click Close and you're good to go.
>
> Of course if it still shows the wrong colour just pick a different ICC and
> try it. First ICC i tried is the Adobe1998 one and it seems to be working
> fine... Of course im no expert and if any of u experts sees the better ICC
> in
> there (there r like 10~15 of them in the ZIP), by all means correct me.
>
> THat's all.
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
> "Dale" wrote:
>
>> That's why I love free markets. The more non-Microsoft solutions there
>> are
>> to problems with Vista, the more Microsoft will learn to listen to its
>> true
>> customers over and above its partners.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> "Michael J" <MichaelJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:854D98CF-E011-4620-A9F7-D59BD6C84261@microsoft.com...
>> > Redbeaver,
>> >
>> > I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
>> > Exlorer
>> > AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
>> > Gallery!
>> >
>> > In Windows Photo Gallery:
>> > 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
>> > monitored image)
>> > 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center
>> > and
>> > center right of the image
>> > 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
>> > Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
>> >
>> > Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To
>> > the
>> > novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
>> > photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see
>> > this
>> > problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
>> > Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo
>> > gallery
>> > (to
>> > manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by
>> > this
>> > Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you
>> > will
>> > like it.
>> >
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> > "
>> >>
>> >> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
>> >> > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
>> >> >
>> >> > Original Pic:
>> >> > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
>> >> > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
>> >> >
>> >> > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use
>> >> > all
>> >> > the
>> >> > time with XP
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you............
>> >> >
>> >> > "Redbeaver" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
>> >> >> home....
>> >> >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
>> >> >> button,
>> >> >> here goes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My system:
>> >> >> AMD X2 3800+
>> >> >> 2Gb RAM
>> >> >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
>> >> >> Samsung 205BW
>> >> >> Vista Ultimate OEM
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

OK... now I'm curious... I know a bit color impaired, but I don't see the
differences... here's the screen shot of the picture as background, in
Paint, and in Photo Gallery...

http://www.papajohn.org/Temp/Vista-Pix.jpg

As I haven't done anything, am I lucky or just not seeing well?

PapaJohn

"Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6CCBF2A6-F0EA-4DBE-8FDF-C7EEBE5BF93F@microsoft.com...
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Good to see I'm not alone in this boat
>
> Yeah, I just installed Photoshop CS2 now, and I couldnt do anything about
> the ICC profile. PS noted that the profile isn't right, so I chose 'Do Not
> Use' instead of 'Use Anyway'. But then it shows nicely, unlike WPG.
>
> Yeah, thats why I posted here so hopefully MS can do something about this.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> "Michael J" wrote:
>
>> Redbeaver,
>>
>> I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
>> Exlorer
>> AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
>> Gallery!
>>
>> In Windows Photo Gallery:
>> 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
>> monitored image)
>> 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
>> center right of the image
>> 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
>> Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
>>
>> Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To
>> the
>> novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
>> photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
>> problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
>> Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery
>> (to
>> manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by
>> this
>> Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
>> like it.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "
>> >
>> > "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
>> > > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
>> > >
>> > > Original Pic:
>> > > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
>> > >
>> > > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
>> > > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
>> > >
>> > > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
>> > >
>> > > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use
>> > > all the
>> > > time with XP
>> > >
>> > > Thank you............
>> > >
>> > > "Redbeaver" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
>> > >> home....
>> > >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
>> > >>
>> > >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
>> > >> button,
>> > >> here goes:
>> > >>
>> > >> My system:
>> > >> AMD X2 3800+
>> > >> 2Gb RAM
>> > >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
>> > >> Samsung 205BW
>> > >> Vista Ultimate OEM
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >

Son, i'm afraid i have to tell you the truth.........

JUST KIDDING

No, that means the colour profile that Vista installed according to your
monitor (and probably ur video card as well) is correct. My Samsung 205BW,
was not. THat's why.

Lucky guy

"PapaJohn" wrote:

> OK... now I'm curious... I know a bit color impaired, but I don't see the
> differences... here's the screen shot of the picture as background, in
> Paint, and in Photo Gallery...
>
> http://www.papajohn.org/Temp/Vista-Pix.jpg
>
> As I haven't done anything, am I lucky or just not seeing well?
>
> PapaJohn
>
> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6CCBF2A6-F0EA-4DBE-8FDF-C7EEBE5BF93F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. Good to see I'm not alone in this boat
> >
> > Yeah, I just installed Photoshop CS2 now, and I couldnt do anything about
> > the ICC profile. PS noted that the profile isn't right, so I chose 'Do Not
> > Use' instead of 'Use Anyway'. But then it shows nicely, unlike WPG.
> >
> > Yeah, thats why I posted here so hopefully MS can do something about this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Michael J" wrote:
> >
> >> Redbeaver,
> >>
> >> I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
> >> Exlorer
> >> AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in W.Photo
> >> Gallery!
> >>
> >> In Windows Photo Gallery:
> >> 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
> >> monitored image)
> >> 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center and
> >> center right of the image
> >> 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image in
> >> Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
> >>
> >> Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To
> >> the
> >> novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
> >> photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see this
> >> problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as possible.
> >> Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo gallery
> >> (to
> >> manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by
> >> this
> >> Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you will
> >> like it.
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >> "
> >> >
> >> > "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
> >> > > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
> >> > >
> >> > > Original Pic:
> >> > > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
> >> > >
> >> > > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
> >> > > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
> >> > >
> >> > > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
> >> > >
> >> > > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use
> >> > > all the
> >> > > time with XP
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you............
> >> > >
> >> > > "Redbeaver" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one at
> >> > >> home....
> >> > >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the edit
> >> > >> button,
> >> > >> here goes:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My system:
> >> > >> AMD X2 3800+
> >> > >> 2Gb RAM
> >> > >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
> >> > >> Samsung 205BW
> >> > >> Vista Ultimate OEM
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>

Thanks for showing your pix... it made it a lot easier to wonder what you
were seeing. Great picture!!!

PapaJohn



"Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41E6AF2D-446B-4E8E-B74D-819E18C9CB4E@microsoft.com...
> Son, i'm afraid i have to tell you the truth.........
>
> JUST KIDDING
>
> No, that means the colour profile that Vista installed according to your
> monitor (and probably ur video card as well) is correct. My Samsung 205BW,
> was not. THat's why.
>
> Lucky guy
>
> "PapaJohn" wrote:
>
>> OK... now I'm curious... I know a bit color impaired, but I don't see the
>> differences... here's the screen shot of the picture as background, in
>> Paint, and in Photo Gallery...
>>
>> http://www.papajohn.org/Temp/Vista-Pix.jpg
>>
>> As I haven't done anything, am I lucky or just not seeing well?
>>
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6CCBF2A6-F0EA-4DBE-8FDF-C7EEBE5BF93F@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply. Good to see I'm not alone in this boat
>> >
>> > Yeah, I just installed Photoshop CS2 now, and I couldnt do anything
>> > about
>> > the ICC profile. PS noted that the profile isn't right, so I chose 'Do
>> > Not
>> > Use' instead of 'Use Anyway'. But then it shows nicely, unlike WPG.
>> >
>> > Yeah, thats why I posted here so hopefully MS can do something about
>> > this.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > "Michael J" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Redbeaver,
>> >>
>> >> I opened your image in Vista Windows Photo Gallery and then again in
>> >> Exlorer
>> >> AND Photoshop and you can CLEARLY see the poor image quality in
>> >> W.Photo
>> >> Gallery!
>> >>
>> >> In Windows Photo Gallery:
>> >> 1. The image is much darker than the photoshop (reference and color
>> >> monitored image)
>> >> 2. The image exhibits obvious pixelation in the clouds in the center
>> >> and
>> >> center right of the image
>> >> 3. The image looks artificially saturated beyond the reference image
>> >> in
>> >> Photoshop (which is an ICC color aware environment).
>> >>
>> >> Everyone I've spoken to who now has Vista has noticed this problem. To
>> >> the
>> >> novice , the problem may not be apparent at first. However, to the
>> >> photographer and just about anyone else who is color aware, can see
>> >> this
>> >> problem. I really wish Microsoft will address this as soon as
>> >> possible.
>> >> Meanwhile, I have switched to Google's Picasa as my picture photo
>> >> gallery
>> >> (to
>> >> manage images) and it totally ROCKS. I encouraged those frustrated by
>> >> this
>> >> Vista Windows Photo Gallery problem, to try out Picasa - I think you
>> >> will
>> >> like it.
>> >>
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >> "
>> >> >
>> >> > "Redbeaver" <Redbeaver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:A292B8D6-65E1-4047-8B44-AA8C6E2C5DFA@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > There you go, guys... sorry about the triple posting...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Original Pic:
>> >> > > http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/189/errorla7.jpg
>> >> > >
>> >> > > as wallapaper/WPG/Paint:
>> >> > > http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6475/errorvt6.jpg
>> >> > >
>> >> > > See what i mean? Anybody can correct this so far?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Microsoft should fix this ASAP as WPG is the program i used to use
>> >> > > all the
>> >> > > time with XP
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thank you............
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Redbeaver" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> DARN!! i uploaded the wrong picture... i will upload another one
>> >> > >> at
>> >> > >> home....
>> >> > >> sorry, guys... im at the office now...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Ah yes, and i forgot to mention, and since i couldnt find the
>> >> > >> edit
>> >> > >> button,
>> >> > >> here goes:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> My system:
>> >> > >> AMD X2 3800+
>> >> > >> 2Gb RAM
>> >> > >> 2x7900GT on SLI using Forceware 97.46
>> >> > >> Samsung 205BW
>> >> > >> Vista Ultimate OEM
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>