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| | File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located in California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. Furthermore, my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. Thank you in advance. |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? You may have many options. Without buying any software, you can using Microsoft VPN and RDC. remote desktopTo use Remote Desktop, you need a WinXP Pro as the host and a remote computer running Win9x or a more recent version of Windows as the client that must have ... www.howtonetworking.com/rdesktop.htm How to setup VPNIf your VPN client cannot find servers or cannot ping computernmae, you may need to add DNS and WINS into your VPN server. For example, to add DNS and WINS ... www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/vpnsetup.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx Quote: > How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share > files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located in > California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any > additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. > Furthermore, > my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's > laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. > Thank you in advance. |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? Thanks Robert. Supose my dad and I wanted to use our computers simultaneously and have one shared folder that we could both access at the same time and make changes to at the same time. I don't think Remote Desktop allows us to both be using our respective computers at the same time. Am I correct in my assumption? Therefore, with RDC out of the question, the only other way within Vista to share files between two or more remote computers is to create a VPN? Is that the only other way without using software that isn't native to the Vista OS? Thanks again. "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <noreply@xxxxxx> wrote in message news 31F1733-9268-4DFA-9180-AEEC86A79AE1@xxxxxxQuote: > You may have many options. Without buying any software, you can using > Microsoft VPN and RDC. > > remote desktopTo use Remote Desktop, you need a WinXP Pro as the host and > a remote computer running Win9x or a more recent version of Windows as the > client that must have ... > www.howtonetworking.com/rdesktop.htm > > How to setup VPNIf your VPN client cannot find servers or cannot > ping computernmae, you may need to add DNS and WINS into your VPN server. > For example, to add DNS and WINS ... > www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/vpnsetup.htm > > > > -- > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on > http://www.HowToNetworking.com > > > "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx Quote: >> How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share >> files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located in >> California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any >> additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. >> Furthermore, >> my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's >> laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. >> Thank you in advance. |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? Also Robert, the link you supplied regarding VPN connections did not address the Vista OS at all. If I am to create a direct link between these two computers and I have to create a VPN, what are the steps involved? I opened the Network and Sharing Center and selected "Set up a connection or network" and then selected "Connect to a workplace" (because that connection allows you to setup a VPN connection), but I got stumped soon thereafter when it asked for Internet address: and Destination name:. Advice anyone? Robert? You seemed to know about this sort of thing. Thanks. "DCLYNDS" <dclynds@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:67CEFE44-2746-45D3-A02E-B7D7CF7A6622@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks Robert. Supose my dad and I wanted to use our computers > simultaneously and have one shared folder that we could both access at the > same time and make changes to at the same time. I don't think Remote > Desktop allows us to both be using our respective computers at the same > time. Am I correct in my assumption? > > Therefore, with RDC out of the question, the only other way within Vista > to share files between two or more remote computers is to create a VPN? Is > that the only other way without using software that isn't native to the > Vista OS? > > Thanks again. > > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <noreply@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news 31F1733-9268-4DFA-9180-AEEC86A79AE1@xxxxxxQuote: >> You may have many options. Without buying any software, you can using >> Microsoft VPN and RDC. >> >> remote desktopTo use Remote Desktop, you need a WinXP Pro as the host and >> a remote computer running Win9x or a more recent version of Windows as >> the client that must have ... >> www.howtonetworking.com/rdesktop.htm >> >> How to setup VPNIf your VPN client cannot find servers or cannot >> ping computernmae, you may need to add DNS and WINS into your VPN server. >> For example, to add DNS and WINS ... >> www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/vpnsetup.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com >> >> >> "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx Quote: >>> How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share >>> files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located >>> in >>> California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any >>> additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. >>> Furthermore, >>> my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's >>> laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. >>> Thank you in advance. |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx Quote: > How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share > files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located in > California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any > additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. > Furthermore, > my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's > laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. > Thank you in advance. Vista machine. http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...P/PPTPVPN.html If you can't get a PPTP VPN connection, most likely because of router issues with GRE Protocol 47 at one end or the other, then I highly recommend Secure Shell (SSH) and either the Tunnelier client or WinSCP client. Both are free. SSH is quite easy to setup. http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...cureShell.html Personally I used SSH in the past. I now have a Windows Home Server running for remote shared file access. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? In your case VPN is for you. This step by step how to may help. Vista How toHow to: Disconnect Vista VPN connection .... To configure the DNS suffix for the Vista VPN, please follow these steps: 1. Click Start>Control Panel>Network ... www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vista.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "DCLYNDS" <dclynds@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F654F940-FA07-4D75-997B-0D9199415E24@xxxxxx Quote: > Also Robert, the link you supplied regarding VPN connections did not > address the Vista OS at all. If I am to create a direct link between these > two computers and I have to create a VPN, what are the steps involved? I > opened the Network and Sharing Center and selected "Set up a connection or > network" and then selected "Connect to a workplace" (because that > connection allows you to setup a VPN connection), but I got stumped soon > thereafter when it asked for Internet address: and Destination name:. > Advice anyone? Robert? You seemed to know about this sort of thing. > Thanks. > > "DCLYNDS" <dclynds@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:67CEFE44-2746-45D3-A02E-B7D7CF7A6622@xxxxxx Quote: >> Thanks Robert. Supose my dad and I wanted to use our computers >> simultaneously and have one shared folder that we could both access at >> the same time and make changes to at the same time. I don't think Remote >> Desktop allows us to both be using our respective computers at the same >> time. Am I correct in my assumption? >> >> Therefore, with RDC out of the question, the only other way within Vista >> to share files between two or more remote computers is to create a VPN? >> Is that the only other way without using software that isn't native to >> the Vista OS? >> >> Thanks again. >> >> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <noreply@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news 31F1733-9268-4DFA-9180-AEEC86A79AE1@xxxxxxQuote: >>> You may have many options. Without buying any software, you can using >>> Microsoft VPN and RDC. >>> >>> remote desktopTo use Remote Desktop, you need a WinXP Pro as the host >>> and a remote computer running Win9x or a more recent version of Windows >>> as the client that must have ... >>> www.howtonetworking.com/rdesktop.htm >>> >>> How to setup VPNIf your VPN client cannot find servers or cannot >>> ping computernmae, you may need to add DNS and WINS into your VPN >>> server. For example, to add DNS and WINS ... >>> www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/vpnsetup.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE >>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on >>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net >>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on >>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com >>> >>> >>> "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx >>>> How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to >>>> share >>>> files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located >>>> in >>>> California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any >>>> additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. >>>> Furthermore, >>>> my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my >>>> dad's >>>> laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air >>>> Card. >>>> Thank you in advance. >>> |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? I keep reading that a VPN requires one PC has to act as a Server and the other PC to act as a Client. Is there any way to configure the VPN so that both computers act as both server and client? So that they are equal? Or do I have to setup each computer as a VPN server for the opposite computer? Also, how do I find the specific IP address of the computer if it hides behind a router w/ a DHCP server that assigns it an address like 192.168.1.102? "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C1445AFB-7F0D-4F05-A238-20071521F165@xxxxxx Quote: > "DCLYNDS" <DCLYNDS@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:815FB48A-DEFE-4651-81C3-E1E4BA10632D@xxxxxx Quote: >> How would I configure a Vista Ultimate and a Vista Home Premium to share >> files if they were not on the same network. My dad's laptop is located in >> California and my PC is in Illinois. I would like to avoid using any >> additional software other than what comes installed with the OS. >> Furthermore, >> my PC is connected through a Linksys router to the Internet and my dad's >> laptop is connected directly to the Internet through a Verizon Air Card. >> Thank you in advance. > Here is a short how-to for setting up a PPTP VPN server and client on a > Vista machine. > > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...P/PPTPVPN.html > > If you can't get a PPTP VPN connection, most likely because of router > issues with GRE Protocol 47 at one end or the other, then I highly > recommend Secure Shell (SSH) and either the Tunnelier client or WinSCP > client. Both are free. SSH is quite easy to setup. > > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...cureShell.html > > Personally I used SSH in the past. I now have a Windows Home Server > running for remote shared file access. > > -- > > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) > > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the > mutual benefit of all of us... > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights... > |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? "DCLYNDS" <dclynds@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:15B2AF33-69D1-4548-8CB0-F7BB9F6DD5FF@xxxxxx Quote: >I keep reading that a VPN requires one PC has to act as a Server and the >other PC to act as a Client. Is there any way to configure the VPN so that >both computers act as both server and client? So that they are equal? Or do >I have to setup each computer as a VPN server for the opposite computer? >Also, how do I find the specific IP address of the computer if it hides >behind a router w/ a DHCP server that assigns it an address like >192.168.1.102? > > laptop) would then be able to access files/folders on the server. There is no need to setup a VPN or SSH server on the laptop. These illustrate this concept (I hope)... http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...-HomeUser.html http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...-HomeUser.html The client can upload or download files to/from the server PC. The server PC and get files to the laptop simply by putting them into a know location (ie. folder) on the server PC. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... |
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| | Re: File sharing between remote Vista PCs connected to the Internet? "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:76DE7303-ED39-4EF3-BB85-34A1CDF6C8B3@xxxxxx Quote: > "DCLYNDS" <dclynds@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:15B2AF33-69D1-4548-8CB0-F7BB9F6DD5FF@xxxxxx Quote: >>I keep reading that a VPN requires one PC has to act as a Server and the >>other PC to act as a Client. Is there any way to configure the VPN so that >>both computers act as both server and client? So that they are equal? Or >>do I have to setup each computer as a VPN server for the opposite >>computer? Also, how do I find the specific IP address of the computer if >>it hides behind a router w/ a DHCP server that assigns it an address like >>192.168.1.102? >> >> > the laptop) would then be able to access files/folders on the server. > There is no need to setup a VPN or SSH server on the laptop. These > illustrate this concept (I hope)... > > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...-HomeUser.html > > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...-HomeUser.html > > The client can upload or download files to/from the server PC. The server > PC and get files to the laptop simply by putting them into a know location > (ie. folder) on the server PC. > > -- > > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) > > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the > mutual benefit of all of us... > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights... > LAN behind the router. Then you can setup port forwarding for either VPN or SSH to that private LAN IP. http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-vista.htm You would call using the public IP of the router. If you get a dynamic IP from your ISP, and that is what most folks have with a residential type account, then you could use a free service like DynDNS or No-IP.com to get a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) that maps to the dynamically assigned IP address. Some routers, including the Belkin F5D7230-4 I currently use, have built-in support for DynDNS for example. Setup an account and the router will automatically contact the DynDNS servers on a time scheduled basis. The DynDNS servers then map your current IP to your FQDN. You call the server using the FQDN. That works quite well. If your router does not support DynDNS or No-IP.com natively you can download and run a small program on the server PC that does the same thing. http://www.dyndns.com http://www.no-ip.com So, checking your router to see if it supports something like DynDNS is the first step. Then setup a static LAN IP for your server and port forwarding. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... |
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