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Old 11-27-2007   #1 (permalink)
dsweida


 
 

Unable to share large files across home wireless network

I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-27-2007   #2 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
>One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
>that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
>(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
>recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
>time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
>transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
>sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
>unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
>problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html

Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-27-2007   #3 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a look at the above

"dsweida" wrote:
Quote:

> I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
> One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
> that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
> (<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
> recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
> time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
> transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
> sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
> unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
> problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #4 (permalink)
dsweida


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so obviously
that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the problem,
so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>
> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
>
> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #5 (permalink)
dsweida


 
 

RE: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

Thanks for the response. I am not really sure what part of that link you are
suggesting might be applicable. It appears to be just a basic setup guide
for all types of shares across a home network. As I stated in my problem, I
am able to share smaller files from any folder on any computer. The issue is
LARGE files that rarely even start transferring or only partially transfer
before process stops. I don't see anything in the setup guide that deals
with file size. Please let me know if I am missing something.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:
Quote:

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> Have a look at the above
>
> "dsweida" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
> > One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
> > that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
> > (<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
> > recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
> > time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
> > transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
> > sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
> > unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
> > problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #6 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
>> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
>> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
>> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
>> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
>> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
>> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
>> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
>> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
>> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
>> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>>
>> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
>>
>> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
Quote:

>Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so obviously
>that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
>the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
>command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
>resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the problem,
>so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.
Run the command from the Vista command window, as an administrator.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

Does "fully updated" include the specific update mentioned? Very few computers
are always "fully updated".

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #7 (permalink)
Michael Walraven


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

Having the system set to automatically update will do so for security
related updates. Performance enhancements are often not included in the
automatic updates (often should only be performed if there is a related
problem). Do check the windows update site directly and the specific links
suggested by other posters. (be wary of any Microsoft suggested hardware
updates however)

Also you will need to elevate the command prompt before some operations.
Start orb
cmd
cmd.exe will appear at top under programs, right click it and select 'Run as
administrator'

Michael
Vista Home premium


"Chuck [MVP]" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:cp6rk3dl7emg4omu9a374cbhafke83kciu@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0800, dsweida
> <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida
>>> <dsweida@xxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running
>>> >Vista HP.
>>> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly
>>> >certain
>>> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller
>>> >files
>>> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I
>>> >have
>>> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success.
>>> >"Calculating
>>> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
>>> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check
>>> >to be
>>> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other
>>> >end is
>>> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure
>>> >whether the
>>> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys
>>> >equipment.
>>> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability
>>> issues.
>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
>>>
>>> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
>
Quote:

>>Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so
>>obviously
>>that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
>>the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
>>command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
>>resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the
>>problem,
>>so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.
>
> Run the command from the Vista command window, as an administrator.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>
> Does "fully updated" include the specific update mentioned? Very few
> computers
> are always "fully updated".
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #8 (permalink)
dsweida


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

I double checked, and the updates you mentioned ARE installed on all
machines. The only updates not installed are the optional Windows Live
programs. I sucessfully disabled autotuning on both computers and tested
another large file transfer (717MB). "Calculating time remaining" was
displayed for approximately 12 minutes before any data transfer was
indicated, and the entire file took about an hour to copy. It seems like a
long time, but I don't know. Wireless signal strenght is in the middle, so
maybe that is one factor. If you can think of anything else that might help
speed things up, that would be most appreciated.

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
> >> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
> >> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
> >> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
> >> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
> >> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
> >> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
> >> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
> >> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
> >> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
> >> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
> >>
> >> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
> >>
> >> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
>
Quote:

> >Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so obviously
> >that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
> >the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
> >command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
> >resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the problem,
> >so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.
>
> Run the command from the Vista command window, as an administrator.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>
> Does "fully updated" include the specific update mentioned? Very few computers
> are always "fully updated".
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #9 (permalink)
dsweida


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

Actually, I just tried a few more files of basically the same size and the
problem still exists. The actual data transfer still either stops after a
small portion is copied or never starts at all.

"dsweida" wrote:
Quote:

> I double checked, and the updates you mentioned ARE installed on all
> machines. The only updates not installed are the optional Windows Live
> programs. I sucessfully disabled autotuning on both computers and tested
> another large file transfer (717MB). "Calculating time remaining" was
> displayed for approximately 12 minutes before any data transfer was
> indicated, and the entire file took about an hour to copy. It seems like a
> long time, but I don't know. Wireless signal strenght is in the middle, so
> maybe that is one factor. If you can think of anything else that might help
> speed things up, that would be most appreciated.
>
> "Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
Quote:

> > >"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
> > >> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
> > >> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
> > >> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
> > >> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
> > >> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
> > >> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
> > >> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
> > >> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
> > >> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
> > >> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
> > >>
> > >> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
> > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
> > >>
> > >> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
> > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
> >
Quote:

> > >Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so obviously
> > >that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
> > >the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
> > >command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
> > >resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the problem,
> > >so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.
> >
> > Run the command from the Vista command window, as an administrator.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
> >
> > Does "fully updated" include the specific update mentioned? Very few computers
> > are always "fully updated".
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My email is AT DOT
> > actual address pchuck mvps org.
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-29-2007   #10 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]


 
 

Re: Unable to share large files across home wireless network

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:25:00 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:01 -0800, dsweida <dsweida@xxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I have four computers at home, 2 desktop and 2 laptop, all running Vista HP.
>> >> >One desktop is wired while the other 3 are wireless N. I am fairly certain
>> >> >that I have all the permissions set properly since i can share smaller files
>> >> >(<100MB) without a problem between any of the 4 computers. However, I have
>> >> >recently tried to transfer files around 800MB with no success. "Calculating
>> >> >time remaining" continues for several minutes without any data being
>> >> >transferred and usually ends with a screen saying that I should check to be
>> >> >sure I am connected to the network or that the resource on the other end is
>> >> >unavailable. Wireless signal strength is good, so I am not sure whether the
>> >> >problem is simply a Windows limitation or related to the Linksys equipment.
>> >> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>> >>
>> >> There was a recent Vista Update released, which includes WiFi stability issues.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/1...-maturing.html
>> >>
>> >> Also, the RWin AutoTuning issue may be relevant here.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/autotuning-in-vista-maybe-not-ready-for.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ready-for.html
>>
Quote:

>> >Thanks for the response. My computer is already fully updated, so obviously
>> >that isn't the issue. As far as autotuning, I attempted to disable it but
>> >the commands listed in the link you provided all result in "Set global
>> >command failed on IPv4 The requested operation requires elevation". The
>> >resources you linked to make it sound like autotuning might be the problem,
>> >so I'd like to figure out how to disable it in order to find out.
>>
>> Run the command from the Vista command window, as an administrator.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>>
>> Does "fully updated" include the specific update mentioned? Very few computers
>> are always "fully updated".
Quote:

>I double checked, and the updates you mentioned ARE installed on all
>machines. The only updates not installed are the optional Windows Live
>programs. I sucessfully disabled autotuning on both computers and tested
>another large file transfer (717MB). "Calculating time remaining" was
>displayed for approximately 12 minutes before any data transfer was
>indicated, and the entire file took about an hour to copy. It seems like a
>long time, but I don't know. Wireless signal strenght is in the middle, so
>maybe that is one factor. If you can think of anything else that might help
>speed things up, that would be most appreciated.
If you're using WiFi for the file transfers, trying Ethernet wouldn't be a bad
idea, at least for a baseline test. Then do a WiFi environment check - you
could have high signal strength, but with neighbours using the same channel,
you're going to have to share the channel.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...vironment.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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