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| | #11 (permalink) |
| | Re: Can't view shared files on XP computer from Vista Home Premium Temporary solution: map network drive using a different user ... ?!? "Matt Schuckmann" <Matt Schuckmann@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4999E8BD-7E06-44B4-A647-9CE66F45E772@xxxxxx Quote: > Lenny I have the same problem you have. > > I have a Network Attached Storage device (NAS) called ReadyNAS NV from > Infrant technologies, and I to can't not browse to the shares on this > device > via the Network on my Windows Vista Ultimate 64 laptop. > > Under Network I can see the NAS but if I double click on it takes me to > the > admin setup webpage for the NAS not the list of share on the NAS. Where as > with all my Windows XP systems if I go to My Network Places I can easly > browse to the shares on the NAS. > > However if I type in the Network File Share path to the NAS (e.g \\my-nas > (notice the forward slashes not the back slashes those are for file share > not > web pages) in the address for the Network Explorer all of the sudden I can > see the file shares on the NAS. > > Does this all sound pretty close like what your experiencing, I think so. > > Near as I can figure in my case the Network Explorer (this is the Vista > replacement for "Network Neighborhood" and "My Network Places") is miss > classifying my NAS and thinks it's just a webserver. This is a problem for > me > in 2 ways: > 1 I have a user that perfers browsing to the shares on the network (they > don't get typing in the URL to the shares) > 2. some applications don't allow you to type in paths to directories or > files, you must browse to them (e.g. the standard Windows directory > selection > dialog) and if Windows doesn't classify my NAS as a file server it doesn't > seem to show up in these applications. > > Basically I think MS got too cute with the new Network Explorer and they > need to open things up a bit more. > > So Lenney If you find a solution to your problem or if anybody out there > knows how to correct Network Explorer and make it see things my way I'd > very > much appreciate hearing about it. > > PS > Chuck, you may know what's going on but apperantly you're going to have to > ease up on the techincal talk a bit for anybody to understand what to do. > > > > If I go to Network > > "Lenny Jacobs" wrote: > Quote: >> None of your suggestions seem to be the problem. All of the computers on >> my >> LAN can easily share files, XP, Win98, WinME except the one Vista machine >> cannot see files on any other machine using Windows explorer, but can >> using >> Internet Explorer. Thanks for trying though. >> >> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:116C2B03-3746-455B-A69C-C63305A76C79@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Make sure that you run the XP's file and Printer sharing Home Network >> > wizard. >> > I see that uoi have done the rest, except this. >> > >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx >> > >> > Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. >> > How to give Permissions are there, too. >> > >> > 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the >> > computers >> > is >> > the SAME. >> > >> > In Vista Network and Sharing: >> > >> > Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) >> > >> > Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) >> > >> > File Sharing: ON >> > >> > Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s >> > Shared >> > Docs) >> > >> > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames >> > and >> > passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will >> > be >> > asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista >> > computer >> > from an XP computer. >> > >> > Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard. >> > >> > >> > "Lenny Jacobs" wrote: >> > >> >> I can't view shared files on an XP computer on my LAN by clicking on >> >> "Network" in Windows Explorer on my Vista computer. I can view shared >> >> files >> >> on the XP computer by entering \\XPCOMPUTERNAME in the address field >> >> of >> >> Internet Explorer. I've setup "Network and Sharing Center" according >> >> to >> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx. >> >> >> >> Private Network >> >> File Sharing on >> >> Public Folder Sharing on >> >> Printer Sharing on >> >> Password Protected Sharing off >> >> Media Sharing off >> >> >> >> The workgroup on both computers is "WORKGROUP" >> >> >> >> I can see the shared printer on my XP computer from Control Panel > >> >> Hardware >> >> and Sound > Printers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> |
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| | #12 (permalink) |
| | Re: Can't view shared files on XP computer from Vista Home Premium Why using a different user? What does using a different user accomplish? I'm hesitant to map a network drive since it's a laptop and in the past mapped network drives have caused (pre Vista) problems when the computer is not on the network. Also I read some of Chucks websight and he's got good stuff there but there is way to much techinical stuff for the average user to get through it all. I don't think any of it applies to me since I'm not having a problem seeing the device in question, I'm having a problem with how windows is treating that device, so I guess my problem is a little different from Lenny's. On the surface it does sound like some of the info on Chuck's websight could help Lenny it's just a matter of what part of it. Lenny I think you're going to have to be a bit more specific about your network environment: is it a business, a domain, a workgroup, are the systems mobile laptops or desktops, etc. Thanks Matt S. "Marius Farcas" wrote: Quote: > Temporary solution: map network drive using a different user ... ?!? > > > "Matt Schuckmann" <Matt Schuckmann@xxxxxx> wrote in > message news:4999E8BD-7E06-44B4-A647-9CE66F45E772@xxxxxx Quote: > > Lenny I have the same problem you have. > > > > I have a Network Attached Storage device (NAS) called ReadyNAS NV from > > Infrant technologies, and I to can't not browse to the shares on this > > device > > via the Network on my Windows Vista Ultimate 64 laptop. > > > > Under Network I can see the NAS but if I double click on it takes me to > > the > > admin setup webpage for the NAS not the list of share on the NAS. Where as > > with all my Windows XP systems if I go to My Network Places I can easly > > browse to the shares on the NAS. > > > > However if I type in the Network File Share path to the NAS (e.g \\my-nas > > (notice the forward slashes not the back slashes those are for file share > > not > > web pages) in the address for the Network Explorer all of the sudden I can > > see the file shares on the NAS. > > > > Does this all sound pretty close like what your experiencing, I think so. > > > > Near as I can figure in my case the Network Explorer (this is the Vista > > replacement for "Network Neighborhood" and "My Network Places") is miss > > classifying my NAS and thinks it's just a webserver. This is a problem for > > me > > in 2 ways: > > 1 I have a user that perfers browsing to the shares on the network (they > > don't get typing in the URL to the shares) > > 2. some applications don't allow you to type in paths to directories or > > files, you must browse to them (e.g. the standard Windows directory > > selection > > dialog) and if Windows doesn't classify my NAS as a file server it doesn't > > seem to show up in these applications. > > > > Basically I think MS got too cute with the new Network Explorer and they > > need to open things up a bit more. > > > > So Lenney If you find a solution to your problem or if anybody out there > > knows how to correct Network Explorer and make it see things my way I'd > > very > > much appreciate hearing about it. > > > > PS > > Chuck, you may know what's going on but apperantly you're going to have to > > ease up on the techincal talk a bit for anybody to understand what to do. > > > > > > > > If I go to Network > > > > "Lenny Jacobs" wrote: > > Quote: > >> None of your suggestions seem to be the problem. All of the computers on > >> my > >> LAN can easily share files, XP, Win98, WinME except the one Vista machine > >> cannot see files on any other machine using Windows explorer, but can > >> using > >> Internet Explorer. Thanks for trying though. > >> > >> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:116C2B03-3746-455B-A69C-C63305A76C79@xxxxxx > >> > Make sure that you run the XP's file and Printer sharing Home Network > >> > wizard. > >> > I see that uoi have done the rest, except this. > >> > > >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx > >> > > >> > Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. > >> > How to give Permissions are there, too. > >> > > >> > 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the > >> > computers > >> > is > >> > the SAME. > >> > > >> > In Vista Network and Sharing: > >> > > >> > Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) > >> > > >> > Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) > >> > > >> > File Sharing: ON > >> > > >> > Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s > >> > Shared > >> > Docs) > >> > > >> > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames > >> > and > >> > passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will > >> > be > >> > asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista > >> > computer > >> > from an XP computer. > >> > > >> > Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Lenny Jacobs" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I can't view shared files on an XP computer on my LAN by clicking on > >> >> "Network" in Windows Explorer on my Vista computer. I can view shared > >> >> files > >> >> on the XP computer by entering \\XPCOMPUTERNAME in the address field > >> >> of > >> >> Internet Explorer. I've setup "Network and Sharing Center" according > >> >> to > >> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx. > >> >> > >> >> Private Network > >> >> File Sharing on > >> >> Public Folder Sharing on > >> >> Printer Sharing on > >> >> Password Protected Sharing off > >> >> Media Sharing off > >> >> > >> >> The workgroup on both computers is "WORKGROUP" > >> >> > >> >> I can see the shared printer on my XP computer from Control Panel > > >> >> Hardware > >> >> and Sound > Printers > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> |
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| Vista business 64 / ultimate 32 | Re: Can't view shared files on XP computer from Vista Home Premium computer I realize this post is old, but I have the *exact* same issue that Matt described above. Just got a new laptop with Business x64, and I cant connect to my ReadyNAS in the exact same way Matt describes. I can access this NAS perfectly from my desktop running 32-bit Ultimate. Anyone find a fix to this issue? |
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| | Vista to XP Network access I have been having the same problem although I can see files in my shared documents folder. I just cannot see files in a folder that I make shared. Having searched the net I found this link that I thought would resolve my problem. http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true I installed the program on the XP system but alas "Access denied, you do not have permission". I did not give up. I went back to the XP system and tried disabling the firewall. That did not help. Then I right clicked on My Documents. I had already clicked sharing for this folder but this time I went into the Security tab. I selected all object types - "Users, Groups, or Built-in security principals" I clicked "Add" and then in Select Users or Groups I selected "Advanced". I then clicked "Find Now" and selected "Network" (note, I could not see the Vista system). I finally clicked OK....... and Hey Presto, I can now access the my documents folder in the XP system from the Vista System. Please note, I am no expert so I wouldn't leave your system set like this as Network to me implies that everyone may have access. I would also suggest you limit permissions to Read. If anyone else can advise on the vulnerability of this I would appreciate it. Is it just the local Network that is granted access permission? Ideally I would have liked to grant the particular PC access to my XP system but I couldn't find the Vista PC under locations. All I could see was the XP system. This may have been because the Vista system was wireless. Who knows! Good luck and I hope this helps you. Regards Mike |
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| | Re: Vista to XP Network access Hi As long as you have a Router and each computer is protected by software Firewall, the way you set permissions is up to you and whatever internal security you wish inside your own system. As far as Vista goes its native Firewall provides strong security In, and Out. WinXP Firewall provides just Inbound Security. Thus if security is of importance you should disable the Native Firewall and install a good 3rd part Firewall (this one is free and works well, http://www.pctools.com/firewall/ ). Jack (MVP-Networking). "Mike" wrote in message news:2008621202431mfarrell1@xxxxxx Quote: >I have been having the same problem although I can see files in my shared >documents folder. I just cannot see files in a folder that I make shared. >Having searched the net I found this link that I thought would resolve my >problem. > > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true > > I installed the program on the XP system but alas "Access denied, you do > not have permission". I did not give up. I went back to the XP system and > tried disabling the firewall. That did not help. Then I right clicked on > My Documents. I had already clicked sharing for this folder but this time > I went into the Security tab. I selected all object types - "Users, > Groups, or Built-in security principals" I clicked "Add" and then in > Select Users or Groups I selected "Advanced". I then clicked "Find Now" > and selected "Network" (note, I could not see the Vista system). I finally > clicked OK....... and Hey Presto, I can now access the my documents folder > in the XP system from the Vista System. Please note, I am no expert so I > wouldn't leave your system set like this as Network to me implies that > everyone may have access. I would also suggest you limit permissions to > Read. > > If anyone else can advise on the vulnerability of this I would appreciate > it. Is it just the local Network that is granted access permission? > Ideally I would have liked to grant the particular PC access to my XP > system but I couldn't find the Vista PC under locations. All I could see > was the XP system. This may have been because the Vista system was > wireless. Who knows! > > Good luck and I hope this helps you. > > Regards > > Mike |
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| | Re: Vista to XP Network access On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:24:32 -0700, Mike wrote: Quote: >I went back to the XP system and tried disabling the firewall. firewall while you're connected to the Internet. If you do it for a test, unplug the WAN cable from your router first and don't plug it in again before you have re-enabled the firewall. This is not just a message from a paranoid user. It is really necessary. Without a firewall every unprotected computer is bombarded with a constant barrage of all kinds of attacks. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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| | Re: Vista to XP Network access By any change were you using XP Home? I know Home is very hard with dealing with networking. "Mike" wrote in message news:2008621202431mfarrell1@xxxxxx Quote: >I have been having the same problem although I can see files in my shared >documents folder. I just cannot see files in a folder that I make shared. >Having searched the net I found this link that I thought would resolve my >problem. > > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true > > I installed the program on the XP system but alas "Access denied, you do > not have permission". I did not give up. I went back to the XP system and > tried disabling the firewall. That did not help. Then I right clicked on > My Documents. I had already clicked sharing for this folder but this time > I went into the Security tab. I selected all object types - "Users, > Groups, or Built-in security principals" I clicked "Add" and then in > Select Users or Groups I selected "Advanced". I then clicked "Find Now" > and selected "Network" (note, I could not see the Vista system). I finally > clicked OK....... and Hey Presto, I can now access the my documents folder > in the XP system from the Vista System. Please note, I am no expert so I > wouldn't leave your system set like this as Network to me implies that > everyone may have access. I would also suggest you limit permissions to > Read. > > If anyone else can advise on the vulnerability of this I would appreciate > it. Is it just the local Network that is granted access permission? > Ideally I would have liked to grant the particular PC access to my XP > system but I couldn't find the Vista PC under locations. All I could see > was the XP system. This may have been because the Vista system was > wireless. Who knows! > > Good luck and I hope this helps you. > > Regards > > Mike |
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| | RE: Can't view shared files on XP computer from Vista Home Premium com I had the same issue. I set the network to Public Network on vista and then typed \\MYXP1 (my computer name) and it started working. Note that typing the IP address to the computer did NOT work: \\192.168.0.7 "Lenny Jacobs" wrote: Quote: > I can't view shared files on an XP computer on my LAN by clicking on > "Network" in Windows Explorer on my Vista computer. I can view shared files > on the XP computer by entering \\XPCOMPUTERNAME in the address field of > Internet Explorer. I've setup "Network and Sharing Center" according to > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx. > > Private Network > File Sharing on > Public Folder Sharing on > Printer Sharing on > Password Protected Sharing off > Media Sharing off > > The workgroup on both computers is "WORKGROUP" > > I can see the shared printer on my XP computer from Control Panel > Hardware > and Sound > Printers > > > > > |
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