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Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups
  1. #1


    AT and HMB Guest

    Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the new
    Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is obviously
    the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name the workgroup,
    whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is always given.
    The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can see
    it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my computers.
    What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer to
    be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate time.
    Many thanks.





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  2. #2


    Robert L. \(MS-MVP\) Guest

    Re: Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    I am not sure I understand the issue. Can you rename the workgroup name? If
    you can't, what's the error message?

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    "AT and HMB" <zen18242@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:4782adf2$0$21101$da0feed9@xxxxxx

    > My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    > I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    > and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    > problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the new
    > Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is obviously
    > the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name the
    > workgroup, whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is always
    > given.
    > The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can
    > see it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my
    > computers.
    > What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer
    > to be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    > Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate
    > time.
    > Many thanks.
    >

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  3. #3


    Mick Murphy Guest

    RE: Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    In Vista > Start > Right-click Computer > Left-click Properties > Advanced
    System Settings > Computer Name > Change > Workgroup Name > change it to
    GROUP > Reboot.

    Have a read of the rest below.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

    Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
    How to give Permissions are there, too.
    If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.

    1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
    the SAME. (You will have done that by now!)

    In Vista Network and Sharing:

    Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

    Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

    File Sharing: ON

    Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
    Docs)

    Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
    passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
    asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
    from an XP computer.

    Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard.


    "AT and HMB" wrote:

    > My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    > I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    > and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    > problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the new
    > Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is obviously
    > the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name the workgroup,
    > whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is always given.
    > The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can see
    > it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my computers.
    > What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer to
    > be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    > Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate time.
    > Many thanks.
    >
    >
    >

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  4. #4


    AT and HMB Guest

    Re: Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    No error message.
    I have several XP computers in aworkroup of "GROUP"
    I am building a new computer and, unlike XP I was not given an opportunity
    to name the workgroup that Vista was put in - "WORKGROUP".
    Basically I want to change WORKGROUP to GROUP.
    The next post from Mick has resolved it. Basically it was down to mynewness
    to Vista.
    Thanks anyway.

    "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:OIs3bPaUIHA.5524@xxxxxx

    >I am not sure I understand the issue. Can you rename the workgroup name? If
    >you can't, what's the error message?
    >
    > --
    > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
    > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
    > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
    > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
    > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
    >
    >
    > "AT and HMB" <zen18242@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:4782adf2$0$21101$da0feed9@xxxxxx

    >> My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    >> I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    >> and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    >> problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the
    >> new Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is
    >> obviously the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name
    >> the workgroup, whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is
    >> always given.
    >> The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can
    >> see it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my
    >> computers.
    >> What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer
    >> to be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    >> Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate
    >> time.
    >> Many thanks.
    >>
    >


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  5. #5


    AT and HMB Guest

    Re: Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    Thanks Mick.
    Perfect.
    I don't know if I will ever be happy with Vista. I think I will revert to
    "classic".
    Your solution was so good because it was so specific.


    "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:18338678-3339-40FF-A631-3FC83749B433@xxxxxx

    > In Vista > Start > Right-click Computer > Left-click Properties > Advanced
    > System Settings > Computer Name > Change > Workgroup Name > change it to
    > GROUP > Reboot.
    >
    > Have a read of the rest below.
    >
    > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
    >
    > Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
    > How to give Permissions are there, too.
    > If you are running Norton, etc's Firewall, check its settings.
    >
    > 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers
    > is
    > the SAME. (You will have done that by now!)
    >
    > In Vista Network and Sharing:
    >
    > Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
    >
    > Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
    >
    > File Sharing: ON
    >
    > Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista's Public Folder is the same as XP's
    > Shared
    > Docs)
    >
    > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
    > passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
    > asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
    > from an XP computer.
    >
    > Also, run the XP's Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard.
    >
    >
    > "AT and HMB" wrote:
    >

    >> My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    >> I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    >> and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    >> problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the
    >> new
    >> Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is obviously
    >> the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name the
    >> workgroup,
    >> whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is always given.
    >> The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can
    >> see
    >> it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my
    >> computers.
    >> What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer
    >> to
    >> be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    >> Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate
    >> time.
    >> Many thanks.
    >>
    >>
    >>


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  6. #6


    Mick Murphy Guest

    Re: Amalgamate 2 different named workgroups

    Glad to be of help.

    Everything is still there, just slightly moved around, with a glossy
    interface!
    In Windows Explorer, people can't find the old "file, edit view" menubar.
    You have to open Explorer> Organise>Layout>MenuBar

    We are all used to XP; and I don't know why you would change it to be more
    difficult. People have to learn again.

    Cheers for 2008!

    "AT and HMB" wrote:

    > Thanks Mick.
    > Perfect.
    > I don't know if I will ever be happy with Vista. I think I will revert to
    > "classic".
    > Your solution was so good because it was so specific.
    >
    >
    > "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:18338678-3339-40FF-A631-3FC83749B433@xxxxxx

    > > In Vista > Start > Right-click Computer > Left-click Properties > Advanced
    > > System Settings > Computer Name > Change > Workgroup Name > change it to
    > > GROUP > Reboot.
    > >
    > > Have a read of the rest below.
    > >
    > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
    > >
    > > Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
    > > How to give Permissions are there, too.
    > > If you are running Norton, etc's Firewall, check its settings.
    > >
    > > 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers
    > > is
    > > the SAME. (You will have done that by now!)
    > >
    > > In Vista Network and Sharing:
    > >
    > > Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
    > >
    > > Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
    > >
    > > File Sharing: ON
    > >
    > > Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista's Public Folder is the same as XP's
    > > Shared
    > > Docs)
    > >
    > > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
    > > passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
    > > asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
    > > from an XP computer.
    > >
    > > Also, run the XP's Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard.
    > >
    > >
    > > "AT and HMB" wrote:
    > >

    > >> My XP computers have a workgroup called: GROUP.
    > >> I have just installed Vista Home Premium on a new computer I am building
    > >> and, although I worked slowly and carefully (2nd instal because of this
    > >> problem), I was not given any opportunity to name the workgroup on the
    > >> new
    > >> Vista computer. Instead it has been called: WORKGROUP, which is obviously
    > >> the default, but as I said, I was not given any power to name the
    > >> workgroup,
    > >> whereas with XP the option to over-ride the default is always given.
    > >> The new install of Vista has picked up the XP workgroup (GROUP) and can
    > >> see
    > >> it alright, but this is untidy: I want one workgroup for all my
    > >> computers.
    > >> What I want simply is to delete WORKGROUP and have the new Vista computer
    > >> to
    > >> be part of the existing workgroup, i.e. GROUP.
    > >> Help please, as I am new to Vista and this is taking disproportionate
    > >> time.
    > >> Many thanks.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    >
    >
    >

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