Vista - Vista Home Premium Can Not Connect To Existing XP File Share

01-10-2008

This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with
a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an
SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home
desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased
last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two
weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop
with Win2K.

Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see
each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The
Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase.
I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name
etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share
source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the
Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to
login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window
refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I
noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself
still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've
tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error
message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the
stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the
XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the
premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters
out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP
machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be
appreciated. TIA. - Mark

01-11-2008

have the exact same problem trying to get a new vista home premium laptop to
access shares on xp pro machines.
I have installed the LLDT on a couple of xp machines. I don't think it has
any functionality other than to let Vista create a graphical map of your
network that includes the xp machines.
There seem to be a lot these problems in recent days (but no solutions).
Could a patch that microsoft pushed out on windows update be the cause of
this? Or has this problem always existed?
--
Regards,
MattK

"MarkinGA" wrote:

Quote:

> This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with
> a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an
> SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home
> desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased
> last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two
> weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop
> with Win2K.
>
> Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see
> each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The
> Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase.
> I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name
> etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share
> source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the
> Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to
> login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window
> refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I
> noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself
> still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've
> tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error
> message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the
> stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the
> XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the
> premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters
> out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP
> machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be
> appreciated. TIA. - Mark
>

01-11-2008

You may want to create the same username e.g. mark on all computers. Or this
search result may help.

Vista Permission IssuesCan I assume the external drive used to be connecting
to other computer and you just re-connect it the the Vista? Check the
permission using this command: . ...
www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com

"MarkinGA" <MarkinGA@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3C8C738E-1272-4157-A8C1-3A7882ED6C45@xxxxxx

Quote:

> This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except
> with
> a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an
> SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home
> desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased
> last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two
> weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop
> with Win2K.
>
> Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could
> see
> each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The
> Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium
> purchase.
> I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup
> name
> etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share
> source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the
> Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password
> to
> login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window
> refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I
> noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window
> itself
> still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've
> tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error
> message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all
> the
> stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on
> the
> XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have
> the
> premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my
> daughters
> out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP
> machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be
> appreciated. TIA. - Mark
>

01-11-2008

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:19 -0800, MarkinGA
<MarkinGA@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with
>a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an
>SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home
>desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased
>last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two
>weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop
>with Win2K.
>
>Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see
>each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The
>Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase.
>I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name
>etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share
>source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the
>Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to
>login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window
>refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I
>noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself
>still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've
>tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error
>message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the
>stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the
>XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the
>premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters
>out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP
>machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be
>appreciated. TIA. - Mark

Mark,

If introducing a different computer into the mix is the primary cause of a
problem, I'd suspect a segmented browse domain caused by a master browser
conflict. If you wish, you can read about the NT browser (no, we're not
discussing Internet Explorer or a competitor). The browser lets each computer
"see" the others.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

Note that LLTD gives Vista computers the ability to see other computers running
either Windows Vista or Windows XP - not Windows 2000. And that ability in the
Network Map only, not Windows Explorer (nka "Network").
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you like, you can diagnose the problem using logs from "browstat status" and
"ipconfig /all". Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to start a command
window under Windows Vista!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

01-10-2008	#1 (permalink)
MarkinGA n/a posts	Vista Home Premium Can Not Connect To Existing XP File Share This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop with Win2K. Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase. I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated. TIA. - Mark
My System Specs

01-11-2008	#2 (permalink)
MattK n/a posts	RE: Vista Home Premium Can Not Connect To Existing XP File Share have the exact same problem trying to get a new vista home premium laptop to access shares on xp pro machines. I have installed the LLDT on a couple of xp machines. I don't think it has any functionality other than to let Vista create a graphical map of your network that includes the xp machines. There seem to be a lot these problems in recent days (but no solutions). Could a patch that microsoft pushed out on windows update be the cause of this? Or has this problem always existed? -- Regards, MattK "MarkinGA" wrote: Quote: > This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with > a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an > SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home > desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased > last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two > weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop > with Win2K. > > Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see > each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The > Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase. > I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name > etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share > source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the > Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to > login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window > refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I > noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself > still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've > tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error > message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the > stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the > XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the > premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters > out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP > machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be > appreciated. TIA. - Mark >
My System Specs

01-11-2008	#3 (permalink)
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\) n/a posts	Re: Vista Home Premium Can Not Connect To Existing XP File Share You may want to create the same username e.g. mark on all computers. Or this search result may help. Vista Permission IssuesCan I assume the external drive used to be connecting to other computer and you just re-connect it the the Vista? Check the permission using this command: . ... www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "MarkinGA" <MarkinGA@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3C8C738E-1272-4157-A8C1-3A7882ED6C45@xxxxxx Quote: > This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except > with > a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an > SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home > desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased > last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two > weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop > with Win2K. > > Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could > see > each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The > Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium > purchase. > I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup > name > etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share > source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the > Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password > to > login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window > refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I > noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window > itself > still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've > tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error > message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all > the > stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on > the > XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have > the > premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my > daughters > out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP > machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be > appreciated. TIA. - Mark >
My System Specs

01-11-2008	#4 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP] n/a posts	Re: Vista Home Premium Can Not Connect To Existing XP File Share On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:19 -0800, MarkinGA <MarkinGA@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >This will sound like all the recent vista share connection issues except with >a twist. First a description of home network equipment. The router is an >SMC model with usb print server. The PC's include a two year old home >desktop with XP Media Center edition, a Vista Home Basic laptop purchased >last June, a brand new Vista Home Premium laptop received in the last two >weeks, a PIII 866 desktop with Win2K and lastly an ancient Thinkpad laptop >with Win2K. > >Until the Home Premium machine showed up ALL of the other machines could see >each other and file copying could be performed in any direction. The >Thinkpad finally died and was the reason for the new Home Premium purchase. >I configured the premium machine same as all the others with workgroup name >etc and one of the first things I tried was to connect to my biggest share >source on the XP desktop. I click the machine name which shows in the >Network window and get a login window. I type the same name and password to >login to the share as I always have from any other machine and the window >refreshes with an error message about user unknown. In the name field I >noticed that the path\name changes to \\LAPTOP_NAME\Mark? The window itself >still shows the desktop machines name in the border across the top? I've >tried changing the path to \\Desktop_name\Mark and receive the same error >message about user unknown. I have done a ton of research and seen all the >stuff about current issues and patch suggestions with the LLDT upgrade on the >XP machine. I have not installed that upgrade and here is why. I have the >premium machines firewall/sharing etc settings set identical to my daughters >out of the box home basic machine and her machine can connect to the XP >machines shares all day long???? Any suggestions would certainly be >appreciated. TIA. - Mark Mark, If introducing a different computer into the mix is the primary cause of a problem, I'd suspect a segmented browse domain caused by a master browser conflict. If you wish, you can read about the NT browser (no, we're not discussing Internet Explorer or a competitor). The browser lets each computer "see" the others. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html Note that LLTD gives Vista computers the ability to see other computers running either Windows Vista or Windows XP - not Windows 2000. And that ability in the Network Map only, not Windows Explorer (nka "Network"). <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html If you like, you can diagnose the problem using logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all". Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to start a command window under Windows Vista!): <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
My System Specs

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