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Old 01-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Different Vista XP networking problem


Hi all.

There are a lot of threads about on various sites about the problems of
introducing a Vista PC into a network of XP desktops, but none of them
answer my problem. Here it is:

I have a network of two XP desktops and one laptop. My old laptop also
used XP but this has since been replaced by a new Vista laptop. When I
first introduced the laptop all was well and i could access any file on
any PC from any other - I don't use passwords. Only one desktop has
printers and each of the other PC print remotely via this desktop.

A few weeks ago something changed and now the Vista laptop cannot
access any of the files on the two XP desktops. The laptop can see the
two desktops and can also see the shared folders on those desktops.
However it is not now possible to open the folders or access the files.

Both of the XP desktops can see the Vista laptop and can open folders
and access the files on the Vista laptop without problem.

The Vista laptop can also print via the XP desktop without any problem.
It can therefore access the print spools on that PC. It just can't open
the folders to get at the files.

I have followed all the basic suggestions, including completely
removing the MacAfee firewall from the XP desktop.

I am on the point of dumping Vista and using my old XP instalation disk
on the laptop. Before I do does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards

Phil


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Old 01-20-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem

Without using password could be the problem. Create the same username and
password on all computers. Or this post may help. Please post back with the
result.

Vista common issue - can see but ...Vista Permission IssuesVista common
issue - can see but access ... So, the common issues sharing are 1) you may
be able to see it but access. ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=450


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http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"pwolsty" <pwolsty.33i7g6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
newswolsty.33i7g6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...
Quote:

>
> Hi all.
>
> There are a lot of threads about on various sites about the problems of
> introducing a Vista PC into a network of XP desktops, but none of them
> answer my problem. Here it is:
>
> I have a network of two XP desktops and one laptop. My old laptop also
> used XP but this has since been replaced by a new Vista laptop. When I
> first introduced the laptop all was well and i could access any file on
> any PC from any other - I don't use passwords. Only one desktop has
> printers and each of the other PC print remotely via this desktop.
>
> A few weeks ago something changed and now the Vista laptop cannot
> access any of the files on the two XP desktops. The laptop can see the
> two desktops and can also see the shared folders on those desktops.
> However it is not now possible to open the folders or access the files.
>
> Both of the XP desktops can see the Vista laptop and can open folders
> and access the files on the Vista laptop without problem.
>
> The Vista laptop can also print via the XP desktop without any problem.
> It can therefore access the print spools on that PC. It just can't open
> the folders to get at the files.
>
> I have followed all the basic suggestions, including completely
> removing the MacAfee firewall from the XP desktop.
>
> I am on the point of dumping Vista and using my old XP instalation disk
> on the laptop. Before I do does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
>
> --
> pwolsty
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
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Old 01-21-2008   #3 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem


Thanks for the reply Bob.

I had already added a password to both the Vista Laptop (VSlpt) and the
main XP desktop (XPdtp1) at the time of writing. It didn't make any
difference and i have since removed the passwords. Since then I have
tried the LmCompatibility change to the Registry as suggested by
Chicagonet but that made no difference (value now restored).

The problem may be in XPdtp1. The reason I say this is that VSlpt can
see and access XPdtp2 with no problem whatsoever. XPdtp2 can access both
XPdtp1 and VSlpt with no problem. XPdtp1 can see and access both XPdtp2
and VSlpt without problem. The problem is entirely with the access to
XPdtp1 from VSlpt.

Oddly, VSlpt can see and use the two printers attached to XPdtp1.

I will continue to read the references you gave me.

Phil


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Old 01-21-2008   #4 (permalink)
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem

I will double check the permission in the Security tab on XPdtp1.

Solved: Can't access one hard ...Have you assigned permissions in the
Security tab? Or this link may help, > > Vista Permission IssuesCan I assume
the external drive used to be connecting ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=707


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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"pwolsty" <pwolsty.33jh8d@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
newswolsty.33jh8d@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...
Quote:

>
> Thanks for the reply Bob.
>
> I had already added a password to both the Vista Laptop (VSlpt) and the
> main XP desktop (XPdtp1) at the time of writing. It didn't make any
> difference and i have since removed the passwords. Since then I have
> tried the LmCompatibility change to the Registry as suggested by
> Chicagonet but that made no difference (value now restored).
>
> The problem may be in XPdtp1. The reason I say this is that VSlpt can
> see and access XPdtp2 with no problem whatsoever. XPdtp2 can access both
> XPdtp1 and VSlpt with no problem. XPdtp1 can see and access both XPdtp2
> and VSlpt without problem. The problem is entirely with the access to
> XPdtp1 from VSlpt.
>
> Oddly, VSlpt can see and use the two printers attached to XPdtp1.
>
> I will continue to read the references you gave me.
>
> Phil
>
>
> --
> pwolsty
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
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Old 01-21-2008   #5 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem


The Security tabs on XPdtp1 show full control for EVERYONE on the C:
drive and other shares.


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Old 01-31-2008   #6 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem


I have now re-installed Vista on the laptop and XP on the problem
desktop. The situation has not changed.

Just a reminder of the problem:

Network with three PCs:

1 x laptop - Vista - wireless
1 x desktop - XP - ethernet cable - two printers attached
1 x desktop - XP - wireless

All of the PCs can access the internet.
All of the PCs can see each other and all the shares available.
All of the PCs can access files in all of the shares EXCEPT the Vista
laptop can see but not access the files and printers on the desktop
(cable).

By way of experiment, I attached the Vista laptop to the router via
cable and access to the files and printers was achieved. However,
removing the cable and using just the wireless blocks the access again.
I have looked into the configuration of the router (AOL - Speedtouch)
and there is nothing significant in the settings that I can see.
Remember that the other XP desktop is wireless and has no problem in
accessing the cable attached XP desktop.

Any thoughts?


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Old 02-01-2008   #7 (permalink)
Paul Knudsen


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:35:01 +0000, pwolsty
<pwolsty.341uci@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:
Quote:

>Any thoughts?
Get Network Magic
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Old 02-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem


Thanks for the tip Paul.

I haven't heard of Network Magic before. Nice screens and simple to use
- I installed it on all three PCs.

Unfortunately, it doesn't give you anything that can't be achieved in
Vista or XP, and what's worse it was absolutely no help in solving the
problem.

The only way that I could get the vista laptop to see the shares on the
XP desktop was by first connecting the laptop to the router via cable so
that Network Magic registered their prescence. Removing the cable
removed access to the XP desktop. Network Magic could only respond to
this problem by lecturing me about firewalls (They were all switched
off, including the one in the router!) or telling me how to install
Network Magic on other PCs.

I have no intention in purchasing this product as the trial failed.

The problem with my network is obviously something to do with the way
that Vista communicates via the wireless adapter. It seems to have no
difficulty with communicating with the wireless XP desktop via the
router, but it cannot communicate properly with the cable-connected XP
desktop. The two XP machines communicate with each other without
problem, so I guess that something is built into the Vista protocols
that causes a problem as the wireless message is switched to the cable.

This is becoming a real pain. I used to have an XP laptop, which worked
perfectly with the other two XP desktops. I gave it to my son and now I
wish that I had it back. Vista offers nothing more than XP, and apart
from the networking problems, the security management is something akin
to a chastity belt. Microsoft operating systems are fast becoming the
Communist Party of the IT world. Give me back my freedom and
independence to do what I want in the way that I want to!


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Old 02-13-2008   #9 (permalink)
pwolsty


 
 

Re: Different Vista XP networking problem


In case anyone is still reading this thread, I can tell you that after
weeks of frustration I have solved the problem.

As I mentioned in a previous posting, the problem obviously lay in the
router since the Vista laptop could connect with any PC if connected via
cable, but if connected by wireless then it couldn't connect with the XP
cable-connected desktop, but could connect with the XP wireless
desktop.

I took out the Speedtouch ST585 v6 which was provided by AOL and
replaced it with the earlier Speedtouch ST576, and all the PCs can now
communicate with each other and the two printers.


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