Vista - Re: No Web access after installing Update KB944533

PA Bear... you are correct ..the problem was running KIS with the
windows firewall....once i re-enabled the Kapersky firewall and
reinstalled the update, all is fine again. thanks for your help

Kiloran's original thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...77ad458521781d
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~PA Bear

Kiloran wrote:

[X-post to IE General]

YW and thanks very much for your feedback!
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

jimmy3d wrote:<paste>
Kiloran wrote:<snip>
jimmy3d wrote:

For your info PA Bear, I have disabled recently the Kaspersky Firewall by
unchecking it in the Kaspersky configuration and I enabled the Windows
Firewall when I thought Kaspersky was interfering in the installation and
operation of a Microsoft game (Flight Simulator X). I could install and use
that MS game that way, so I assumed the Kaspersky Firewall was the culprit
and kept it disabled giving the preference to the Windows Firewall, but now
I am not so sure of this assumption...

For my KB944533 previous installation attempts, I "paused the protection" of
Kaspersky through the rightclicking of its icon near the clock , assuming
the entire Kaspersky suite would be disabled. I don't know what this «pause
protection» does exactly, but I noticed today in the Kaspersky configuration
that only the header «protection» is shown as being disabled, and ALL the
remaining functions (File Antivirus, Proactive Defense, etc.) are ticked as
being active!

After reading other comments about my problem, I got confused about "who is
interfering what", so I decided to install KB944533 in this manner:
1- Disconnect my computer from my cable modem.
2- Disactivate individually all functions of Kaspersky in its configuration
panel (not by rightclicking its icon and selecting "pause protection").
3- Disable the Windows Firewall (just in case!...)
4- Install KB944533 with Windows Update.
5- Restart my computer.
6- Reactivate Kaspersky Internet Security, including its Firewall (I will
keep it enabled with the Windows Firewall disabled for later tests of
Microsoft Flt Sim X game).
7- Reconnect my computer to my cable modem.

Results: Successful installation with normal access to the Web. I am
HAPPY!

*** One thing I don't understand: How could I use Windows Update to install
that KB944533 while my computer was disconnected from my cable modem?... I
thought an Internet connexion was required to do this.

André









"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
de discussion : uX8z44OcIHA.3940@xxxxxx...

Thanks very much for your feedback, André.
Windows Update in Vista (and Automatic Updates in other Windows versions)
downloads all updates to a temporary folder prior to installation, no matter
which of the first 3 settings in the following illustration are chosen:
http://www.microsoft.com/library/med...allupdates.jpg

Since this temporary folder still contained the installation package for
MS08-010/KB944533, you were able to reinstall it offline.

I should think that the Kaspersky firewall wouldn't interfere with Flight
Simulator if you tweak its settings properly.

Given other related threads here, I would not recommend attempting to
disable the firewall in Kaspersky Internet Security in favor of using the
Windows Firewall unless you can figure out how to completely disable the
former. If you manage to do it, please let us know how.
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


A.BORD wrote:

PS: The Release Notes for IE7 (admittedly a little dated) include the
following caveat:

<QP>
If Flight Simulator 2004 stops responding after you have installed Internet
Explorer 7, find the oleacc.dll file in the Flight Simulator folder and
rename it to oleacc.old. Then restart Flight Simulator.
</QP>
Source: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/Aa740486.aspx

Don't know what version of FlightSim you're running but thought I'd post the
above anyway.
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~PA Bear

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

"Leonard Grey" <Leonard@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OLbr3OScIHA.484@xxxxxx
That could be a good tip. Is there anything else that users could be doing
when they say that they have disabled their Kaspersky firewall?
More particularly, I wonder what other components they might not be disabling
which could be the ultimate cause of the interference, e.g. during the install,
which would make the state of the Kaspersky firewall component irrelevant?


All good practice.


Who knows? ; ) The posters in this thread seem to be using Vista
so your result might at least be an example of "YMMV". <eg>


Robert
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When someone says they "disabled their Kaspersky firewall", who knows
what that means? Does it mean they disabled the entire program ('pause
protection') or does it mean they opened the program and disabled just
the firewall component?

In any case, in the 13 months that I have been using KIS, I have yet to
have it prevent me from using the internet in any way.

Of course, as with any firewall, if someone doesn't understand how it
works and/or how to use it, they can easily hoist their own petard. For
example, one situation you commonly see in these newsgroups is where an
update to a web browser causes the firewall to react - the firewall sees
the browser has been modified - and the user denies the updated browser
internet access.

Also, KIS and KAV have an excellent user forum where very experienced
and knowledgeable users help each other out.

---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:

I have been unable to uninstall the patch.

it is definitely on but under the remove updates section it does not appear.




I am running Vista Home Premium x64 and also have Kaspersky.

I am the machines administrator.

Getting very frustrating

thanks

James

from above post

url here for second picture



if you click on the above it should open