Vista - how to monitor router activity

02-24-2008

We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California offices.

Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 wireless
port; and WG311 wireless adapters.

Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port
(wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make sure
nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports?

We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, all
mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped.

Thank you.

02-24-2008

"Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California
> offices.
>
> Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1
> wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters.
>
> Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port
> (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make
> sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports?
>
> We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports,
> all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped.
>
> Thank you.
>

You could try Wallwatcher

http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/

I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an
external log they will probably work.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

02-24-2008

These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to
business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available
other than what you state below.

However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at
least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you
have given the passphrase.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:37:38 -0800, "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Quote:

>We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California offices.
>
>Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 wireless
>port; and WG311 wireless adapters.
>
>Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port
>(wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make sure
>nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports?
>
>We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, all
>mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped.
>
>Thank you.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

02-24-2008

"Barb Bowman" <barb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to
> business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available
> other than what you state below.
>
> However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at
> least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you
> have given the passphrase.
>
>

We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department manager
or department tech.

02-24-2008

Hi
Entry level Router do not maintain logs rich enough to do what you would
like to do.
Wireless (especially business) must be encrypted, and as posted above No one
would log unless you give them the Key.
However if people "share" the key with others it Not secure either.
The usual way businesses control the Wireless is either by using Wireless
Hardware that has much more elaborate log on controls. Or if you already
have a server in your office you can add to it RADIUS Server (Windows 2003
IAS) and it would provide the control needed.

"Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ud455yxdIHA.4396@xxxxxx

Quote:

> We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California
> offices.
>
> Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1
> wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters.
>
> Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port
> (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make
> sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports?
>
> We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports,
> all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped.
>
> Thank you.
>

02-24-2008

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> You could try Wallwatcher
>
> http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/
>
> I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an
> external log they will probably work.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>

Thanks Kerry. Found WallWatcher, in their hardware list, it does not include
the entire Netgear MR series of popular routers.

02-24-2008

Hi
For business purposes you can not mange securely Wireless with Entry Level
Wireless Hardware.
To employ the control that you want you either need Wireless hardware that
is specifically designed for Controlling/Monitoring the log ons.
Or if you have a real server installed, you can add to it RADUIS Server
(Windows 2003 IAS).
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials...le.php/3287481
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Barb Bowman" <barb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:i9q3s3l9shot67facj9ve38fllq9bpbna0@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to
>> business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available
>> other than what you state below.
>>
>> However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at
>> least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you
>> have given the passphrase.
>>
>>

> We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department
> manager or department tech.

02-25-2008

that should provide sufficient encryption. but in a business
environment, most people use a Radius server (people might share the
passphrase with who knows whom).

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0800, "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Quote:

>
>We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department manager
>or department tech.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

02-25-2008

I downloaded Wallwatcher last night but can't get it to install, it just
keeps telling me a .dll file is missing (can't remember which one, off hand)
It does actually cover the netgear router I am using.

--
--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ud455yxdIHA.4396@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California
>> offices.
>>
>> Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1
>> wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters.
>>
>> Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port
>> (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make
>> sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports?
>>
>> We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports,
>> all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>

>
>
> You could try Wallwatcher
>
> http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/
>
> I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an
> external log they will probably work.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>

02-25-2008

"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I downloaded Wallwatcher last night but can't get it to install, it just
>keeps telling me a .dll file is missing (can't remember which one, off
>hand) It does actually cover the netgear router I am using.
>

You need to download the library as well. It's right under the download link
on the main page. If you are installing it in Vista there is also a section
in the FAQ that may be appropriate.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

02-24-2008	#1 (permalink)
Adams H n/a posts	how to monitor router activity We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California offices. Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters. Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports? We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped. Thank you.
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02-24-2008	#2 (permalink)
Kerry Brown n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ud455yxdIHA.4396@xxxxxx Quote: > We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California > offices. > > Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 > wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters. > > Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port > (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make > sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports? > > We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, > all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped. > > Thank you. > You could try Wallwatcher http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/ I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an external log they will probably work. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
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02-24-2008	#3 (permalink)
Barb Bowman n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available other than what you state below. However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you have given the passphrase. On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:37:38 -0800, "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California offices. > >Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 wireless >port; and WG311 wireless adapters. > >Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port >(wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make sure >nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports? > >We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, all >mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped. > >Thank you. -- Barb Bowman MS-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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02-24-2008	#4 (permalink)
Adams H n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity "Barb Bowman" <barb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:i9q3s3l9shot67facj9ve38fllq9bpbna0@xxxxxx Quote: > These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to > business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available > other than what you state below. > > However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at > least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you > have given the passphrase. > > We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department manager or department tech.
My System Specs

02-24-2008	#5 (permalink)
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity Hi Entry level Router do not maintain logs rich enough to do what you would like to do. Wireless (especially business) must be encrypted, and as posted above No one would log unless you give them the Key. However if people "share" the key with others it Not secure either. The usual way businesses control the Wireless is either by using Wireless Hardware that has much more elaborate log on controls. Or if you already have a server in your office you can add to it RADIUS Server (Windows 2003 IAS) and it would provide the control needed. "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ud455yxdIHA.4396@xxxxxx Quote: > We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California > offices. > > Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 > wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters. > > Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port > (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make > sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports? > > We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, > all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped. > > Thank you. >
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02-24-2008	#6 (permalink)
Adams H n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.cam> wrote in message news:6743A5CD-A2E2-45A5-A3F4-A909566CC17C@xxxxxx Quote: > "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > You could try Wallwatcher > > http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/ > > I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an > external log they will probably work. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > > Thanks Kerry. Found WallWatcher, in their hardware list, it does not include the entire Netgear MR series of popular routers.
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02-24-2008	#7 (permalink)
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity Hi For business purposes you can not mange securely Wireless with Entry Level Wireless Hardware. To employ the control that you want you either need Wireless hardware that is specifically designed for Controlling/Monitoring the log ons. Or if you have a real server installed, you can add to it RADUIS Server (Windows 2003 IAS). http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials...le.php/3287481 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Jack (MVP-Networking). "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e67P9pzdIHA.3940@xxxxxx Quote: > "Barb Bowman" <barb@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:i9q3s3l9shot67facj9ve38fllq9bpbna0@xxxxxx Quote: >> These Netgear routers are usually used in residential (as opposed to >> business) environments. Don't know how much logging is available >> other than what you state below. >> >> However, with respect to the wireless, you ARE using WPA2 or at >> least WPA, aren't you? That would limit usage to those to whom you >> have given the passphrase. >> >> > We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department > manager or department tech.
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02-25-2008	#8 (permalink)
Barb Bowman n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity that should provide sufficient encryption. but in a business environment, most people use a Radius server (people might share the passphrase with who knows whom). On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0800, "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >We used different WPA and WPA2, set up depending on each department manager >or department tech. -- Barb Bowman MS-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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02-25-2008	#9 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity I downloaded Wallwatcher last night but can't get it to install, it just keeps telling me a .dll file is missing (can't remember which one, off hand) It does actually cover the netgear router I am using. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.cam> wrote in message news:6743A5CD-A2E2-45A5-A3F4-A909566CC17C@xxxxxx Quote: > "Adams H" <no.spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ud455yxdIHA.4396@xxxxxx Quote: >> We are using Netgear Router in most offices in Northern California >> offices. >> >> Most are Net gear router modele MR814 & WGR614, 4 wired ports and 1 >> wireless port; and WG311 wireless adapters. >> >> Is there anyway to monitor the router activity? Anyway to see which port >> (wired and wireless) is active and network traffic. Also, want to make >> sure nobody outside our approved users is using the wireless ports? >> >> We know about the router log in the router set up page (from all ports, >> all mixed), showing what URL is contacted and time stamped. >> >> Thank you. >> > > > You could try Wallwatcher > > http://sonic.net/wallwatcher/ > > I don't see your routers on the supported list but if the will write an > external log they will probably work. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > > >
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02-25-2008	#10 (permalink)
Kerry Brown n/a posts	Re: how to monitor router activity "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsCD192ED-4E6C-4507-9A28-C4B1ACE12BB4@xxxxxx Quote: >I downloaded Wallwatcher last night but can't get it to install, it just >keeps telling me a .dll file is missing (can't remember which one, off >hand) It does actually cover the netgear router I am using. > You need to download the library as well. It's right under the download link on the main page. If you are installing it in Vista there is also a section in the FAQ that may be appropriate. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
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