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Old 03-11-2008   #1 (permalink)
CatChase


 
 

RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems with the
wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)

HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell to
purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in dual
slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots. That
gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent to me
by NetGear.

The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works fine.
If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed the
cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in another
set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.

We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we had
were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took back
the extra RAM.

Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem on
Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM. When
I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the email I
sent in reply couldn't be delivered.

So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you. (The
card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only stops
working if all four slots are used.)

Thanks!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #2 (permalink)
Bob F.


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first installed
it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You can do 1
of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update it. It
will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the driver,
turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a new
driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless operation.
Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer on, let
it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down, install the
card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and reconfigure
itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these cases it
should be after you have installed all the RAM.

--
BobF.
"CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems with
> the
> wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
>
> HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell to
> purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in
> dual
> slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots.
> That
> gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent to
> me
> by NetGear.
>
> The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
> working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works
> fine.
> If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed the
> cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
> another
> set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
>
> We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we
> had
> were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took
> back
> the extra RAM.
>
> Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem on
> Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM.
> When
> I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the email I
> sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
>
> So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
> researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you.
> (The
> card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only stops
> working if all four slots are used.)
>
> Thanks!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #3 (permalink)
CatChase


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

We did all of that.

"Bob F." wrote:
Quote:

> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first installed
> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You can do 1
> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update it. It
> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the driver,
> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a new
> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless operation.
> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer on, let
> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down, install the
> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and reconfigure
> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these cases it
> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
>
> --
> BobF.
> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems with
> > the
> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
> >
> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell to
> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in
> > dual
> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots.
> > That
> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent to
> > me
> > by NetGear.
> >
> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works
> > fine.
> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed the
> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
> > another
> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
> >
> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we
> > had
> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took
> > back
> > the extra RAM.
> >
> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem on
> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM.
> > When
> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the email I
> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
> >
> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you.
> > (The
> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only stops
> > working if all four slots are used.)
> >
> > Thanks!
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #4 (permalink)
CatChase


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

How do I edit messages I've already posted? I meant to say that Vista maxes
out at 4GB not MB.

"CatChase" wrote:
Quote:

> We did all of that.
>
> "Bob F." wrote:
>
Quote:

> > The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
> > installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first installed
> > it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You can do 1
> > of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update it. It
> > will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the driver,
> > turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a new
> > driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless operation.
> > Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer on, let
> > it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down, install the
> > card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and reconfigure
> > itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these cases it
> > should be after you have installed all the RAM.
> >
> > --
> > BobF.
> > "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems with
> > > the
> > > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
> > >
> > > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell to
> > > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in
> > > dual
> > > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots.
> > > That
> > > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent to
> > > me
> > > by NetGear.
> > >
> > > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
> > > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works
> > > fine.
> > > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed the
> > > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
> > > another
> > > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
> > >
> > > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we
> > > had
> > > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took
> > > back
> > > the extra RAM.
> > >
> > > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem on
> > > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM.
> > > When
> > > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the email I
> > > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
> > >
> > > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
> > > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you.
> > > (The
> > > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only stops
> > > working if all four slots are used.)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #5 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

Does netgear have any firmware up dates for this card?

If you run the test utility from www.memtest.org when all slots are
populated does it run without err's?

"CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B7864665-519A-4935-AA05-C28B37EDB3ED@xxxxxx
Quote:

> We did all of that.
>
> "Bob F." wrote:
>
Quote:

>> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
>> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first
>> installed
>> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You can
>> do 1
>> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update it.
>> It
>> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the driver,
>> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a new
>> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless
>> operation.
>> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer on,
>> let
>> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down, install
>> the
>> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and
>> reconfigure
>> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these cases
>> it
>> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
>>
>> --
>> BobF.
>> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems
>> > with
>> > the
>> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
>> >
>> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell
>> > to
>> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in
>> > dual
>> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots.
>> > That
>> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent
>> > to
>> > me
>> > by NetGear.
>> >
>> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
>> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works
>> > fine.
>> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed
>> > the
>> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
>> > another
>> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
>> >
>> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we
>> > had
>> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took
>> > back
>> > the extra RAM.
>> >
>> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem
>> > on
>> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM.
>> > When
>> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the
>> > email I
>> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
>> >
>> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
>> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you.
>> > (The
>> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only
>> > stops
>> > working if all four slots are used.)
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #6 (permalink)
CatChase


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

We updated everything we could through the properties values in the system
folder. I will run the test later today.

Thank you.

"DL" wrote:
Quote:

> Does netgear have any firmware up dates for this card?
>
> If you run the test utility from www.memtest.org when all slots are
> populated does it run without err's?
>
> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B7864665-519A-4935-AA05-C28B37EDB3ED@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > We did all of that.
> >
> > "Bob F." wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
> >> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first
> >> installed
> >> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You can
> >> do 1
> >> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update it.
> >> It
> >> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the driver,
> >> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a new
> >> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless
> >> operation.
> >> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer on,
> >> let
> >> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down, install
> >> the
> >> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and
> >> reconfigure
> >> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these cases
> >> it
> >> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
> >>
> >> --
> >> BobF.
> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
> >> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems
> >> > with
> >> > the
> >> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
> >> >
> >> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called Dell
> >> > to
> >> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards in
> >> > dual
> >> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual slots.
> >> > That
> >> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was sent
> >> > to
> >> > me
> >> > by NetGear.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
> >> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card works
> >> > fine.
> >> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We changed
> >> > the
> >> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
> >> > another
> >> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
> >> >
> >> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four we
> >> > had
> >> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell took
> >> > back
> >> > the extra RAM.
> >> >
> >> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the problem
> >> > on
> >> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for RAM.
> >> > When
> >> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the
> >> > email I
> >> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
> >> >
> >> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
> >> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking you.
> >> > (The
> >> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only
> >> > stops
> >> > working if all four slots are used.)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #7 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

I believe you would have to physically visit netgear site to source any
firmware, and also any driver update.
Using win update for drivers is not reccommended

"CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A4359798-6305-4C7A-A5C1-C52F1C8782B5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> We updated everything we could through the properties values in the system
> folder. I will run the test later today.
>
> Thank you.
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Does netgear have any firmware up dates for this card?
>>
>> If you run the test utility from www.memtest.org when all slots are
>> populated does it run without err's?
>>
>> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:B7864665-519A-4935-AA05-C28B37EDB3ED@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > We did all of that.
>> >
>> > "Bob F." wrote:
>> >
>> >> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
>> >> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first
>> >> installed
>> >> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You
>> >> can
>> >> do 1
>> >> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update
>> >> it.
>> >> It
>> >> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the
>> >> driver,
>> >> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a
>> >> new
>> >> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless
>> >> operation.
>> >> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer
>> >> on,
>> >> let
>> >> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down,
>> >> install
>> >> the
>> >> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and
>> >> reconfigure
>> >> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these
>> >> cases
>> >> it
>> >> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> BobF.
>> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
>> >> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
>> >> >
>> >> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called
>> >> > Dell
>> >> > to
>> >> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards
>> >> > in
>> >> > dual
>> >> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual
>> >> > slots.
>> >> > That
>> >> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was
>> >> > sent
>> >> > to
>> >> > me
>> >> > by NetGear.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
>> >> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card
>> >> > works
>> >> > fine.
>> >> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We
>> >> > changed
>> >> > the
>> >> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
>> >> > another
>> >> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four
>> >> > we
>> >> > had
>> >> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell
>> >> > took
>> >> > back
>> >> > the extra RAM.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the
>> >> > problem
>> >> > on
>> >> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for
>> >> > RAM.
>> >> > When
>> >> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the
>> >> > email I
>> >> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
>> >> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking
>> >> > you.
>> >> > (The
>> >> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only
>> >> > stops
>> >> > working if all four slots are used.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-11-2008   #8 (permalink)
CatChase


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

I went to NetGear's site. There is no upgrade and I was told it is an issue
involving Vista. That's why I submitted technical support requests through
NetGear. It took over two weeks to get a response from "superior
technicians" and that simply told me that I was using too much RAM, when in
fact, I was not. In addition, NetGear closed the technical support request
and told me that if I wanted more help with it, I would have to pay for
technical support. The NetGear card is not that old, so it should still be
covered.

That's NetGear's whole attitude in this. If I want help, I have to pay for
it. However, since I don't want to pay for it (I shouldn't have to pay for
it), the problem is with Vista according to NetGear. I'm sure if I paid for
it, the problem would be resolved in a matter of seconds.

So, I came here to see if anyone else had the same problem. I'm not at the
house, so I can't run the tests. I will do so soon.

Thanks.

"DL" wrote:
Quote:

> I believe you would have to physically visit netgear site to source any
> firmware, and also any driver update.
> Using win update for drivers is not reccommended
>
> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A4359798-6305-4C7A-A5C1-C52F1C8782B5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > We updated everything we could through the properties values in the system
> > folder. I will run the test later today.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > "DL" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Does netgear have any firmware up dates for this card?
> >>
> >> If you run the test utility from www.memtest.org when all slots are
> >> populated does it run without err's?
> >>
> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:B7864665-519A-4935-AA05-C28B37EDB3ED@xxxxxx
> >> > We did all of that.
> >> >
> >> > "Bob F." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
> >> >> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first
> >> >> installed
> >> >> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You
> >> >> can
> >> >> do 1
> >> >> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update
> >> >> it.
> >> >> It
> >> >> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the
> >> >> driver,
> >> >> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install a
> >> >> new
> >> >> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless
> >> >> operation.
> >> >> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer
> >> >> on,
> >> >> let
> >> >> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down,
> >> >> install
> >> >> the
> >> >> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and
> >> >> reconfigure
> >> >> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these
> >> >> cases
> >> >> it
> >> >> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> BobF.
> >> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
> >> >> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No problems
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called
> >> >> > Dell
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB cards
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > dual
> >> >> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual
> >> >> > slots.
> >> >> > That
> >> >> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what was
> >> >> > sent
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > by NetGear.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card stops
> >> >> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card
> >> >> > works
> >> >> > fine.
> >> >> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We
> >> >> > changed
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards in
> >> >> > another
> >> >> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the four
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > had
> >> >> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell
> >> >> > took
> >> >> > back
> >> >> > the extra RAM.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the
> >> >> > problem
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits for
> >> >> > RAM.
> >> >> > When
> >> >> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that the
> >> >> > email I
> >> >> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could and I
> >> >> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking
> >> >> > you.
> >> >> > (The
> >> >> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it only
> >> >> > stops
> >> >> > working if all four slots are used.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Old 03-12-2008   #9 (permalink)


XP
 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

I would try a bios update for the computer for any memery errors in the bios that may have been *fixed* with this device like an input/output error when all slots are used and a network card is installed then restore to bios factory defaults and make any changes that need to be made. Then look for chipset driver updates by Via if amd or Intel updates but of course you will want sisoft sandra program so it can tell you what kind of chipset you have so you get the right model for the software and then uninstall the drivers to the network card and install updated ones from the website...

Next is to try a diffrent network card by a diffrent company like d-link or linksys are some of the better ones out there and netgear is a low buget company and don't work that well when software isues are involved...

sounds a lot like bios problems so look for an update and I bet that fixes the problems as well as chipset software.....
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Old 03-12-2008   #10 (permalink)
Charlie


 
 

Re: RAM, Vista, and Wireless Network Card

Can you borrrow another network card from someone and see if it works?
"CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:50443BAE-A297-4270-A799-2698717AB41F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I went to NetGear's site. There is no upgrade and I was told it is an
>issue
> involving Vista. That's why I submitted technical support requests
> through
> NetGear. It took over two weeks to get a response from "superior
> technicians" and that simply told me that I was using too much RAM, when
> in
> fact, I was not. In addition, NetGear closed the technical support
> request
> and told me that if I wanted more help with it, I would have to pay for
> technical support. The NetGear card is not that old, so it should still
> be
> covered.
>
> That's NetGear's whole attitude in this. If I want help, I have to pay
> for
> it. However, since I don't want to pay for it (I shouldn't have to pay
> for
> it), the problem is with Vista according to NetGear. I'm sure if I paid
> for
> it, the problem would be resolved in a matter of seconds.
>
> So, I came here to see if anyone else had the same problem. I'm not at
> the
> house, so I can't run the tests. I will do so soon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I believe you would have to physically visit netgear site to source any
>> firmware, and also any driver update.
>> Using win update for drivers is not reccommended
>>
>> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A4359798-6305-4C7A-A5C1-C52F1C8782B5@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > We updated everything we could through the properties values in the
>> > system
>> > folder. I will run the test later today.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > "DL" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does netgear have any firmware up dates for this card?
>> >>
>> >> If you run the test utility from www.memtest.org when all slots are
>> >> populated does it run without err's?
>> >>
>> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:B7864665-519A-4935-AA05-C28B37EDB3ED@xxxxxx
>> >> > We did all of that.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Bob F." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The NetGear card probably shares some RAM and got confused when you
>> >> >> installed the new RAM. When the Netgear card's driver was first
>> >> >> installed
>> >> >> it automatically configures its work space (RAM sharing). So. You
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> do 1
>> >> >> of 2 things. 1. Go into Device Manager, find the driver and update
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >> It
>> >> >> will reconfigure when you do. Alternatively, you can delete the
>> >> >> driver,
>> >> >> turn your machine off and on and the machine will find and install
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> driver, or at least it will be refreshed. Or 2. A more ruthless
>> >> >> operation.
>> >> >> Shut you computer down, Remove the Netgear card. Turn you computer
>> >> >> on,
>> >> >> let
>> >> >> it boot up. It will configure with NO card. Then shut it down,
>> >> >> install
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> card, turn your computer on, it will find the card, drivers and
>> >> >> reconfigure
>> >> >> itself once again. Everything should work then. In both of these
>> >> >> cases
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> should be after you have installed all the RAM.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> BobF.
>> >> >> "CatChase" <CatChase@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:37F76926-5215-4D20-93C1-AE6F697F30A5@xxxxxx
>> >> >> > My Dell 8400 had XP. We upgraded to Vista a month ago. No
>> >> >> > problems
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > wireless network card. (Netgear WG311 v.3)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > HOWEVER - we decided to purchase more RAM for the pc. We called
>> >> >> > Dell
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > purchase the RAM so it would be compatible. We had two 512MB
>> >> >> > cards
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > dual
>> >> >> > slots. We ordered two 1GB cards to place in the remaining dual
>> >> >> > slots.
>> >> >> > That
>> >> >> > gives us 3GB of RAM. Vista maxes out at 4MB according to what
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > sent
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > by NetGear.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The problem is that if we use all four slots, the network card
>> >> >> > stops
>> >> >> > working. If we use two 1GB cards in dual slots, the network card
>> >> >> > works
>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >> > If we use all four slots, the network card stops working. We
>> >> >> > changed
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > cards around so the 1GB cards were in one set and the 512MB cards
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > another
>> >> >> > set. We had them paired each time, so that was not the problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We ordered two more 1GB cards with the thought that because the
>> >> >> > four
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > had
>> >> >> > were not quadruplets, that might be the problem. It isn't. Dell
>> >> >> > took
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > the extra RAM.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dell support blames the problem on NetGear. NetGear blames the
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > Vista. The technician at NetGear sent me a kb of Vista limits
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > RAM.
>> >> >> > When
>> >> >> > I replied that we hadn't maxed out on RAM, I got an email that
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > email I
>> >> >> > sent in reply couldn't be delivered.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So, any suggestions? I did as much troubleshooting as I could
>> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> > researched the problem extensively for two weeks prior to asking
>> >> >> > you.
>> >> >> > (The
>> >> >> > card worked fine with Vista prior to the upgrade in RAM and it
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > stops
>> >> >> > working if all four slots are used.)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

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