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wireless connection makes online gaming impossible. ping spikes!

  1. #1


    ZippyDan Guest

    wireless connection makes online gaming impossible. ping spikes!

    perform a google search for: vista ping spike wireless

    you will find hundreds of results:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...spike+wireless

    this is a nearly universal issue:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=232702
    Vista Wireless Network Lag/Spikes
    http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7813_102...sageID=1797233
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/660137.html
    http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Wirel...s-t101910.html
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R3PDI66ELMMV5U
    http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/gamin...-spikes-2.html
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r192...-Gaming-Router

    That is just the first page of results from google and ALL of them are
    relevant to the issue I will describe.

    Apparently since Windows XP and continuing with Vista, Windows will poll (or
    search) for wireless connections every 60 seconds. This searching causes a
    regular and predictable ping spike of around or over 1000ms every 60 seconds.
    This makes playing any online game impossible because you get constant ping
    spikes and unplayable lag.

    In Windows XP there were some relatively reliable and easy ways to get
    around this problem, but in Vista there is no reliable solution! The easiest
    method for solving this problem in XP was simply to use a third party
    wireless configuration utility (the one supplied with your wireless hardware
    usually,) that would not perform this incessant polling. Unfortunately, few
    if any hardware manufacturers have created wireless utilities that work in
    Vista.

    Even if they did, it is difficult to understand why Microsoft has not solved
    this problem themselves. Windows afterall portrays itself as the ultimate
    gaming platform (among other uses such as office productivity, Microsoft does
    sell Windows as a gaming OS especially as compared to Linux or Mac.) With
    wireless connectivity becoming more and more prevalent, and online gaming
    becoming more and more popular, how exactly does Microsoft justify making the
    two impossible on their latest and greatest OS?

    Even if a third party wireless utility were available, I would prefer to use
    the built-in Windows features, if only they worked! Now I understand that
    Microsoft does see this polling as a useful feature. In any application
    where latency does not matter much, such as surfing the web or downloading a
    file, this ping spike is not at all noticeable as performance is fine 99% of
    the time. And polling for better connections is certainly important to
    making sure the computer is always connected to the best possible Access
    Point in a world where people are constantly on the go, often using laptops,
    and roaming from one Access Point to the next. But there is a whole segment
    of people such as myself who are using wireless as a landline replacement, in
    their own homes, on a desktop computer! My computer never moves, my access
    point never moves, no better connection will ever be available!

    All that is needed here is a simple option, a checkbox, that allows me to
    tell Windows: THIS IS THE ONLY ACCESS POINT I EVER WANT TO CONNECT TO, DO NOT
    POLL FOR NEW ACCESS POINTS. Even laptop users would benefit from this. Many
    laptops are becoming capable gaming machines. If you know you are not going
    to be moving and you want to get a quick game in while on the road, you could
    tell Windows WLAN to lock on to the current access point. Then when its time
    to get back to everyday business, return to normal polling.

    Please Microsoft: wireless is the future, online gaming is the future,
    please bring your OS in line with the times!

    ZippyDan - unable to play games online with his quad core desktop, 4 gb
    memory, 25mbit connection, and WINDOWS VISTA with Service Pack 1 - i had hope
    that SP1 would fix this problem, but no... :-(

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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  3. #2


    jase.au Guest

    Re: wireless connection makes online gaming impossible. ping spike

    In the same boat here ZippyDan...have posted about the problem about 12 pages
    in and yet to hear an official response, and havent seen any official MS
    responses in my extensive google/ yahoo searches....

    It seems the solution you posted is so simple but obviously there is some
    reason MS dont give us the option to stop polling...I hope to find out before
    I have to climb into my roof and install a telephone line splitter and cable
    hardwired down to where my computer permanently sits....(i hate getting into
    my roof)

    So much for wireless ehh....

    "perstromgren" wrote:

    > On 11 Apr, 04:08, ZippyDan <Zippy...@xxxxxx> wrote:
    >

    > >
    > > Apparently since Windows XP and continuing withVista, Windows will poll (or
    > > search) forwirelessconnections every 60 seconds. This searching causes a
    > > regular and predictable ping spike of around or over 1000ms every 60 seconds.
    > > This makes playing any online game impossible because you get constant ping
    > > spikes and unplayable lag.
    >
    > Thank you, ZippyDan, for this information! I have been troubleshooting
    > this problem for a week now, without knowing about this design! I can
    > now stop trying to solve the problem, then.
    >
    > Is this design documented at an official site anywhere?
    >
    > Per
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #3


    James Lucktaylor Guest

    RE: wireless connection makes online gaming impossible. ping spikes!

    "ZippyDan" wrote:

    > perform a google search for: vista ping spike wireless
    >
    > you will find hundreds of results:
    > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...spike+wireless
    >
    > this is a nearly universal issue:
    >
    > http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=232702
    > Vista Wireless Network Lag/Spikes
    > http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7813_102...sageID=1797233
    > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/660137.html
    > http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Wirel...s-t101910.html
    > http://www.amazon.com/review/R3PDI66ELMMV5U
    > http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/gamin...-spikes-2.html
    > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r192...-Gaming-Router
    >
    > That is just the first page of results from google and ALL of them are
    > relevant to the issue I will describe.
    >
    > Apparently since Windows XP and continuing with Vista, Windows will poll (or
    > search) for wireless connections every 60 seconds. This searching causes a
    > regular and predictable ping spike of around or over 1000ms every 60 seconds.
    > This makes playing any online game impossible because you get constant ping
    > spikes and unplayable lag.
    >
    > In Windows XP there were some relatively reliable and easy ways to get
    > around this problem, but in Vista there is no reliable solution! The easiest
    > method for solving this problem in XP was simply to use a third party
    > wireless configuration utility (the one supplied with your wireless hardware
    > usually,) that would not perform this incessant polling. Unfortunately, few
    > if any hardware manufacturers have created wireless utilities that work in
    > Vista.
    >
    > Even if they did, it is difficult to understand why Microsoft has not solved
    > this problem themselves. Windows afterall portrays itself as the ultimate
    > gaming platform (among other uses such as office productivity, Microsoft does
    > sell Windows as a gaming OS especially as compared to Linux or Mac.) With
    > wireless connectivity becoming more and more prevalent, and online gaming
    > becoming more and more popular, how exactly does Microsoft justify making the
    > two impossible on their latest and greatest OS?
    >
    > Even if a third party wireless utility were available, I would prefer to use
    > the built-in Windows features, if only they worked! Now I understand that
    > Microsoft does see this polling as a useful feature. In any application
    > where latency does not matter much, such as surfing the web or downloading a
    > file, this ping spike is not at all noticeable as performance is fine 99% of
    > the time. And polling for better connections is certainly important to
    > making sure the computer is always connected to the best possible Access
    > Point in a world where people are constantly on the go, often using laptops,
    > and roaming from one Access Point to the next. But there is a whole segment
    > of people such as myself who are using wireless as a landline replacement, in
    > their own homes, on a desktop computer! My computer never moves, my access
    > point never moves, no better connection will ever be available!
    >
    > All that is needed here is a simple option, a checkbox, that allows me to
    > tell Windows: THIS IS THE ONLY ACCESS POINT I EVER WANT TO CONNECT TO, DO NOT
    > POLL FOR NEW ACCESS POINTS. Even laptop users would benefit from this. Many
    > laptops are becoming capable gaming machines. If you know you are not going
    > to be moving and you want to get a quick game in while on the road, you could
    > tell Windows WLAN to lock on to the current access point. Then when its time
    > to get back to everyday business, return to normal polling.
    >
    > Please Microsoft: wireless is the future, online gaming is the future,
    > please bring your OS in line with the times!
    >
    > ZippyDan - unable to play games online with his quad core desktop, 4 gb
    > memory, 25mbit connection, and WINDOWS VISTA with Service Pack 1 - i had hope
    > that SP1 would fix this problem, but no... :-(
    I am suffering from the exact same issue, my ping between my brand new
    machine that I've spent my hard-earned on and my wireless AP router spikes up
    over 1000ms every single minute. Running wires to the router from where the
    PC lives is not an option.
    Surely this can sorted out and patched without too much trouble.
    I'm running Vista Ultimate SP1, network card is a brand new Linksys WMP54G,
    drivers/Windows Update are all up to scratch.. very disappointed that
    something so trivial is so disruptive to online gaming. I can't play any
    online/multiplayer games at all without disruption. :C

      My System SpecsSystem Spec


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