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Old 05-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
Robert Schuldenfrei
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XP -> Vista file sharing

Dear NG,

I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP laptops
(one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files between
the two.

After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on Snowdancer,
but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
"Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
issue, right?

I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris with
my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems. I
have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I must
be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this working
just fine.

TIA,

Bob

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-13-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may help.

Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why do I
need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and suggestions.
Related Topics ...
www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm


--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote
in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Dear NG,
>
> I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
> laptops
> (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
> Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
> between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
> between
> the two.
>
> After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on Snowdancer,
> but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
> "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
> issue, right?
>
> I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
> with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris
> with
> my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems.
> I
> have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
> posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
> must
> be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
> working
> just fine.
>
> TIA,
>
> Bob
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-13-2008   #3 (permalink)
Robert Schuldenfrei
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Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

If this is the only way I will do it. So, is a password on Vista necessary?
Before my clean install and without SP1 I did not need a password. Is this
something new? I am in a very secure setting. The only reason I have a
password on Snowdancer, the laptop is because it "travels." Thanks, Bob

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
Quote:

> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may help.
>
> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why do I
> need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and suggestions.
> Related Topics ...
> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
>
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote
> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Dear NG,
> >
> > I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
> > laptops
> > (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
> > Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
> > between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
> > between
> > the two.
> >
> > After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on Snowdancer,
> > but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
> > "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
> > issue, right?
> >
> > I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
> > with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris
> > with
> > my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems.
> > I
> > have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
> > posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
> > must
> > be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
> > working
> > just fine.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Bob
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-13-2008   #4 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]
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Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:50:05 -0700, Robert Schuldenfrei
<RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote
>> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Dear NG,
>> >
>> > I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
>> > laptops
>> > (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
>> > Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
>> > between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
>> > between
>> > the two.
>> >
>> > After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on Snowdancer,
>> > but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
>> > "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
>> > issue, right?
>> >
>> > I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
>> > with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris
>> > with
>> > my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems.
>> > I
>> > have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
>> > posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
>> > must
>> > be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
>> > working
>> > just fine.
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> > Bob
Quote:
Quote:

>> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may help.
>>
>> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why do I
>> need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and suggestions.
>> Related Topics ...
>> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
Quote:

>If this is the only way I will do it. So, is a password on Vista necessary?
>Before my clean install and without SP1 I did not need a password. Is this
>something new? I am in a very secure setting. The only reason I have a
>password on Snowdancer, the laptop is because it "travels." Thanks, Bob
Bob,

There is a system policy that can be set on or off, which requires a password
for networked file sharing, if you're using non-anonymous authentication.
Windows XP had it, and Vista has it. You should make the setting consistent in
your network, for best results.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Synchronise>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...ml#Synchronise

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-14-2008   #5 (permalink)
Robert Schuldenfrei
Guest


 
 

Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

Hi Robert & Chuck,

It is only getting worse. I took the advise for setting up a password,
but I did it on the Guest account, not wanting to use a password when I
signed into Osiris. I may have done a few other things too, but I did not
write them down. My bad! When I tried to see the files on Osiris from
Snowdancer I still failed and now I have lost the ability to print from
Snowdancer on the printer that is attached to Osiris.

I really need a step-by-step procedure to follow. At each step I need a
test I can execute to confirm that I have performed the test correctly.

TIA,

Bob

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <chicagotech@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eOp8J$PtIHA.4476@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may
> help.
>
> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why do
> I need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and
> suggestions. Related Topics ...
> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
>
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote
> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Dear NG,
>>
>> I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
>> laptops
>> (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
>> Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
>> between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
>> between
>> the two.
>>
>> After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on
>> Snowdancer,
>> but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
>> "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
>> issue, right?
>>
>> I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
>> with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris
>> with
>> my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems.
>> I
>> have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
>> posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
>> must
>> be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
>> working
>> just fine.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Bob
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-14-2008   #6 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]
Guest


 
 

Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:02:55 -0400, "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx> wrote
>> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
Quote:

>"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <chicagotech@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:eOp8J$PtIHA.4476@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may
>> help.
>>
>> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why do
>> I need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and
>> suggestions. Related Topics ...
>> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Dear NG,
>>>
>>> I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
>>> laptops
>>> (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install of
>>> Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way communications
>>> between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
>>> between
>>> the two.
>>>
>>> After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on
>>> Snowdancer,
>>> but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
>>> "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
>>> issue, right?
>>>
>>> I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into Snowdancer
>>> with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into Osiris
>>> with
>>> my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both systems.
>>> I
>>> have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots of
>>> posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
>>> must
>>> be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
>>> working
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Bob
Quote:

>Hi Robert & Chuck,
>
>It is only getting worse. I took the advise for setting up a password,
>but I did it on the Guest account, not wanting to use a password when I
>signed into Osiris. I may have done a few other things too, but I did not
>write them down. My bad! When I tried to see the files on Osiris from
>Snowdancer I still failed and now I have lost the ability to print from
>Snowdancer on the printer that is attached to Osiris.
>
>I really need a step-by-step procedure to follow. At each step I need a
>test I can execute to confirm that I have performed the test correctly.
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob
Bob,

Let's take this one step at a time then. Look at logs from "browstat status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and run all programs from a
command window started as admin, in Vista.):
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-15-2008   #7 (permalink)
Robert Schuldenfrei
Guest


 
 

Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

Hi Chuck and NG,

Password did it! I was about to plow into your very excellent notes when I
decided to add password protection to User: Bob. That did it. File and
Printer Sharing now working 100%. I will read about auto-login later this
morning. I would rather not have to type in my password on Osiris if I do
not have to, but will if I must. As part of my learning experience (at 65
years old I am still learning) I am going to read and experiment with
"layered" network testing. Browstat.exe has been downloaded and installed.
Chuck, I will work my way through all of your articles. I really want to
understand this technology as I support many other users.

Thank you very much for your help,

Cheers,

Bob
bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com

"Chuck [MVP]" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:67im24553rjg2mjecupl1ro6n3bc9k8ued@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:02:55 -0400, "Robert Schuldenfrei"
> <bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com>
> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx>
>>> wrote
>>> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>>"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <chicagotech@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:eOp8J$PtIHA.4476@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why
>>> do
>>> I need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and
>>> suggestions. Related Topics ...
>>> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
>
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> Dear NG,
>>>>
>>>> I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
>>>> laptops
>>>> (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install
>>>> of
>>>> Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way
>>>> communications
>>>> between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
>>>> between
>>>> the two.
>>>>
>>>> After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on
>>>> Snowdancer,
>>>> but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
>>>> "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
>>>> issue, right?
>>>>
>>>> I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into
>>>> Snowdancer
>>>> with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into
>>>> Osiris
>>>> with
>>>> my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both
>>>> systems.
>>>> I
>>>> have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots
>>>> of
>>>> posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
>>>> must
>>>> be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
>>>> working
>>>> just fine.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>
Quote:

>>Hi Robert & Chuck,
>>
>>It is only getting worse. I took the advise for setting up a password,
>>but I did it on the Guest account, not wanting to use a password when I
>>signed into Osiris. I may have done a few other things too, but I did not
>>write them down. My bad! When I tried to see the files on Osiris from
>>Snowdancer I still failed and now I have lost the ability to print from
>>Snowdancer on the printer that is attached to Osiris.
>>
>>I really need a step-by-step procedure to follow. At each step I need a
>>test I can execute to confirm that I have performed the test correctly.
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Bob
>
> Bob,
>
> Let's take this one step at a time then. Look at logs from "browstat
> status",
> "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from
> each
> computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
> articles, and
> follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and run all programs
> from a
> command window started as admin, in Vista.):
> <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-15-2008   #8 (permalink)
Chuck [MVP]
Guest


 
 

Re: XP -> Vista file sharing

On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:10:17 -0400, "Robert Schuldenfrei" <bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com>
wrote:
Quote:

>"Chuck [MVP]" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:67im24553rjg2mjecupl1ro6n3bc9k8ued@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:02:55 -0400, "Robert Schuldenfrei"
>> <bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com>
>> wrote:
Quote:

>>>> "Robert Schuldenfrei" <RobertSchuldenfrei@xxxxxx>
>>>> wrote
>>>> in message news:061D75A6-7437-4F23-B368-7BCD5B28ADD8@xxxxxx
>>
Quote:

>>>"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <chicagotech@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>news:eOp8J$PtIHA.4476@xxxxxx
>>>> You need to setup a password for vista sharing. this search result may
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> Vista Password IssuesVista password protection on after rebooting · Why
>>>> do
>>>> I need password · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks and
>>>> suggestions. Related Topics ...
>>>> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapassword.htm
>>
>>
Quote:

>>>>> Dear NG,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a small LAN with a Vista desktop (called Osiris) and a few XP
>>>>> laptops
>>>>> (one of which is called Snowdancer. Last week I did a "clean" install
>>>>> of
>>>>> Vista on Osiris. Before this clean install I had two way
>>>>> communications
>>>>> between Snowdancer and Osiris. I use Windows Explorer to move files
>>>>> between
>>>>> the two.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the clean install Osiris could still manipulate files on
>>>>> Snowdancer,
>>>>> but the reverse is not happening. BTW, print sharing works and so does
>>>>> "Public Folders." From this I conclude that I do not have a connection
>>>>> issue, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not have a Domain. My C: drive is "Shared." I log into
>>>>> Snowdancer
>>>>> with my full name Robert Schuldenfrei and a password. I log into
>>>>> Osiris
>>>>> with
>>>>> my nickname Bob and no password. I am an administrator on both
>>>>> systems.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have searched through this NG for similar problems and there are lots
>>>>> of
>>>>> posts. I have come up short with every repair I have looked into, so I
>>>>> must
>>>>> be missing something. Remember, before my clean install I had this
>>>>> working
>>>>> just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>
Quote:

>>>Hi Robert & Chuck,
>>>
>>>It is only getting worse. I took the advise for setting up a password,
>>>but I did it on the Guest account, not wanting to use a password when I
>>>signed into Osiris. I may have done a few other things too, but I did not
>>>write them down. My bad! When I tried to see the files on Osiris from
>>>Snowdancer I still failed and now I have lost the ability to print from
>>>Snowdancer on the printer that is attached to Osiris.
>>>
>>>I really need a step-by-step procedure to follow. At each step I need a
>>>test I can execute to confirm that I have performed the test correctly.
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Let's take this one step at a time then. Look at logs from "browstat
>> status",
>> "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from
>> each
>> computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
>> articles, and
>> follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and run all programs
>> from a
>> command window started as admin, in Vista.):
>> <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...#AskingForHelp
Quote:

>Hi Chuck and NG,
>
>Password did it! I was about to plow into your very excellent notes when I
>decided to add password protection to User: Bob. That did it. File and
>Printer Sharing now working 100%. I will read about auto-login later this
>morning. I would rather not have to type in my password on Osiris if I do
>not have to, but will if I must. As part of my learning experience (at 65
>years old I am still learning) I am going to read and experiment with
>"layered" network testing. Browstat.exe has been downloaded and installed.
>Chuck, I will work my way through all of your articles. I really want to
>understand this technology as I support many other users.
>
>Thank you very much for your help,
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bob
>bob@xxxxxx-i-inc.com
All right, Bob! Glad we got you going in the right direction. Thanks for the
feedback.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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