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  1. #1


    Puppy Breath Guest

    Remote Desktop

    The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly be the
    sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my ISP, then
    connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home machine would
    need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar, right? Not to
    mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.




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  2. #2


    Zack Whittaker Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP of
    which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or something
    like that.

    I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )

    --
    Zack Whittaker
    » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    that up!

    --: Original message follows :--
    "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    > The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    > confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly be
    > the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my ISP,
    > then connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home machine
    > would need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar, right? Not
    > to mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.
    >




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  3. #3


    Puppy Breath Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account to a
    business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless way to
    do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone on the other
    side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect through an RA
    ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that ticket into some
    prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.

    Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a home
    network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be exposed all the
    time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA ticket or check your IP
    address before you leave.


    "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP of
    > which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    > something like that.
    >
    > I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    > ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >
    > --
    > Zack Whittaker
    > » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    > » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    > » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > not
    > of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    > that up!
    >
    > --: Original message follows :--
    > "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    >> confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly be
    >> the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my ISP,
    >> then connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home machine
    >> would need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar, right? Not
    >> to mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.
    >>

    >
    >



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  4. #4


    Sooner Al [MVP] Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or Secure
    Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and currently use
    OpenVPN.

    With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong password.

    --
    Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

    Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    mutual benefit of all of us...
    The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights...


    "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    > Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account to
    > a business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless way
    > to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone on the
    > other side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect through
    > an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that ticket into
    > some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    >
    > Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    > home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be exposed
    > all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA ticket or
    > check your IP address before you leave.
    >
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP of
    >> which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    >> something like that.
    >>
    >> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    >> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >>
    >> --
    >> Zack Whittaker
    >> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    >> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    >> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >> not
    >> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    >> that up!
    >>
    >> --: Original message follows :--
    >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    >>> confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly be
    >>> the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my ISP,
    >>> then connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home machine
    >>> would need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar, right?
    >>> Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >




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  5. #5


    Puppy Breath Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    By "cert" you mean like an SSL certificate or something?


    "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    news:eMLFbdsaGHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or
    > Secure Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and
    > currently use OpenVPN.
    >
    > With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    > password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong
    > password.
    >
    > --
    > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >
    > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    > mutual benefit of all of us...
    > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights...
    >
    >
    > "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    >> Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account
    >> to a business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless
    >> way to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone on
    >> the other side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect
    >> through an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that
    >> ticket into some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    >>
    >> Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    >> home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be exposed
    >> all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA ticket or
    >> check your IP address before you leave.
    >>
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP of
    >>> which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    >>> something like that.
    >>>
    >>> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    >>> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Zack Whittaker
    >>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    >>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    >>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    >>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >>> not
    >>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
    >>> cleared
    >>> that up!
    >>>
    >>> --: Original message follows :--
    >>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >>>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    >>>> confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly
    >>>> be the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my
    >>>> ISP, then connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home
    >>>> machine would need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar,
    >>>> right? Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >



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  6. #6


    Sooner Al [MVP] Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Yes...With OpenVPN you roll your own...

    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...N/OpenVPN.html

    --
    Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

    Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    mutual benefit of all of us...
    The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights...


    "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    news:6D61216A-A55D-43E7-897F-C4A3A1D882B1@microsoft.com...
    > By "cert" you mean like an SSL certificate or something?
    >
    >
    > "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:eMLFbdsaGHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or
    >> Secure Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and
    >> currently use OpenVPN.
    >>
    >> With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    >> password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong
    >> password.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >>
    >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    >> mutual benefit of all of us...
    >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights...
    >>
    >>
    >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >> news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    >>> Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account
    >>> to a business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless
    >>> way to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone
    >>> on the other side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect
    >>> through an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that
    >>> ticket into some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    >>>
    >>> Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    >>> home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be
    >>> exposed all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA
    >>> ticket or check your IP address before you leave.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP
    >>>> of which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    >>>> something like that.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    >>>> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Zack Whittaker
    >>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    >>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    >>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    >>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
    >>>> and not
    >>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
    >>>> cleared
    >>>> that up!
    >>>>
    >>>> --: Original message follows :--
    >>>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >>>>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a
    >>>>> little confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't
    >>>>> possibly be the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online
    >>>>> through my ISP, then connect to it remotely across the Internet,
    >>>>> right? My home machine would need a FQDN for me to even be able to
    >>>>> find it from afar, right? Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web
    >>>>> server, or something.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >




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  7. #7


    Puppy Breath Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Cool, thanks all.

    "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    news:%23o%237SnvaGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Yes...With OpenVPN you roll your own...
    >
    > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...N/OpenVPN.html
    >
    > --
    > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >
    > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    > mutual benefit of all of us...
    > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights...
    >
    >
    > "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > news:6D61216A-A55D-43E7-897F-C4A3A1D882B1@microsoft.com...
    >> By "cert" you mean like an SSL certificate or something?
    >>
    >>
    >> "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:eMLFbdsaGHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or
    >>> Secure Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and
    >>> currently use OpenVPN.
    >>>
    >>> With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    >>> password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong
    >>> password.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >>>
    >>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    >>> mutual benefit of all of us...
    >>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>> rights...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    >>>> Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account
    >>>> to a business account for that. I was looking for the
    >>>> free/easy/mindless way to do it. Something like Remote Assistance
    >>>> without needing someone on the other side to respond when you click
    >>>> Request Control. You connect through an RA ticket or just by entering
    >>>> the IP addresses from that ticket into some prompt, enter the password,
    >>>> and you're connected.
    >>>>
    >>>> Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    >>>> home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be
    >>>> exposed all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA
    >>>> ticket or check your IP address before you leave.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>> news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP
    >>>>> of which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    >>>>> something like that.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    >>>>> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Zack Whittaker
    >>>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    >>>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    >>>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    >>>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
    >>>>> and not
    >>>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
    >>>>> cleared
    >>>>> that up!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --: Original message follows :--
    >>>>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a
    >>>>>> little confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't
    >>>>>> possibly be the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online
    >>>>>> through my ISP, then connect to it remotely across the Internet,
    >>>>>> right? My home machine would need a FQDN for me to even be able to
    >>>>>> find it from afar, right? Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web
    >>>>>> server, or something.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >



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  8. #8


    =?Utf-8?B?a3dhbg==?= Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Hi Sooner Al,

    Have you try SSH tunnel in Windows Vista?
    In XP SP2, I am using Putty to set up a SSH tunnel and use the XP Remote
    Desktop. It works fine. However, using the same Putty and the same
    parameters in Windows Vista's Remote Desktop (for example, in the Computer
    box, I put 127.0.0.1:3390), it doesn't work. I got an error message:
    "The client could not connect. You are already connected to the console of
    this computer. Anew console session cannot be established."
    It is because this beta of Windows Vista doesn't know how to deal with SSH
    tunnel set up by Putty? or it requires other way to perform the tunnelling?

    ---kam

    "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

    > You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or Secure
    > Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and currently use
    > OpenVPN.
    >
    > With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    > password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong password.
    >
    > --
    > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >
    > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    > mutual benefit of all of us...
    > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights...
    >
    >
    > "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    > > Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account to
    > > a business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless way
    > > to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone on the
    > > other side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect through
    > > an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that ticket into
    > > some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    > >
    > > Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    > > home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be exposed
    > > all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA ticket or
    > > check your IP address before you leave.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > > news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > >> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP of
    > >> which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    > >> something like that.
    > >>
    > >> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    > >> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Zack Whittaker
    > >> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    > >> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    > >> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    > >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > >> not
    > >> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    > >> that up!
    > >>
    > >> --: Original message follows :--
    > >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    > >>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a little
    > >>> confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't possibly be
    > >>> the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online through my ISP,
    > >>> then connect to it remotely across the Internet, right? My home machine
    > >>> would need a FQDN for me to even be able to find it from afar, right?
    > >>> Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web server, or something.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>

    > >

    >
    >
    >


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  9. #9


    =?Utf-8?B?a3dhbg==?= Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Hi Sooner Al,

    I am using Putty (for SSH tunnel) with XP SP2 Remote Desktop. It works fine.

    However, while I use the same Putty and parameters in Windows Vista Remote
    Desktop, I get this error message:
    "The client could not connect. You are already connected to the console of
    this computer. A new sonsole session cannot be established."

    Do you know what is the reason?

    ---kam

    "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

    > Yes...With OpenVPN you roll your own...
    >
    > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...N/OpenVPN.html
    >
    > --
    > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >
    > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    > mutual benefit of all of us...
    > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights...
    >
    >
    > "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > news:6D61216A-A55D-43E7-897F-C4A3A1D882B1@microsoft.com...
    > > By "cert" you mean like an SSL certificate or something?
    > >
    > >
    > > "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    > > news:eMLFbdsaGHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > >> You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or
    > >> Secure Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and
    > >> currently use OpenVPN.
    > >>
    > >> With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a strong
    > >> password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong
    > >> password.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    > >>
    > >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    > >> mutual benefit of all of us...
    > >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> rights...
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    > >>> Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home account
    > >>> to a business account for that. I was looking for the free/easy/mindless
    > >>> way to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing someone
    > >>> on the other side to respond when you click Request Control. You connect
    > >>> through an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that
    > >>> ticket into some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    > >>>
    > >>> Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about a
    > >>> home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be
    > >>> exposed all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA
    > >>> ticket or check your IP address before you leave.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > >>> news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > >>>> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external IP
    > >>>> of which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port or
    > >>>> something like that.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    > >>>> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    > >>>>
    > >>>> --
    > >>>> Zack Whittaker
    > >>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    > >>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    > >>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    > >>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
    > >>>> and not
    > >>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
    > >>>> cleared
    > >>>> that up!
    > >>>>
    > >>>> --: Original message follows :--
    > >>>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    > >>>> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    > >>>>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a
    > >>>>> little confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't
    > >>>>> possibly be the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online
    > >>>>> through my ISP, then connect to it remotely across the Internet,
    > >>>>> right? My home machine would need a FQDN for me to even be able to
    > >>>>> find it from afar, right? Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web
    > >>>>> server, or something.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>

    > >

    >
    >
    >


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  10. #10


    Sooner Al [MVP] Guest

    Re: Remote Desktop

    Unfortunately I am about a week to two weeks away from installing my first
    Vista machine so I can't really answer that question. Hopefully someone else
    can help further...

    --
    Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

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    "kwan" <kwan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:3E8AE633-9D05-43DB-8B01-9EE584783886@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Sooner Al,
    >
    > I am using Putty (for SSH tunnel) with XP SP2 Remote Desktop. It works
    > fine.
    >
    > However, while I use the same Putty and parameters in Windows Vista Remote
    > Desktop, I get this error message:
    > "The client could not connect. You are already connected to the console of
    > this computer. A new sonsole session cannot be established."
    >
    > Do you know what is the reason?
    >
    > ---kam
    >
    > "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >> Yes...With OpenVPN you roll your own...
    >>
    >> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...N/OpenVPN.html
    >>
    >> --
    >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >>
    >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    >> mutual benefit of all of us...
    >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights...
    >>
    >>
    >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >> news:6D61216A-A55D-43E7-897F-C4A3A1D882B1@microsoft.com...
    >> > By "cert" you mean like an SSL certificate or something?
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
    >> > news:eMLFbdsaGHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> >> You could, at least with XP Pro, run Remote Desktop through a VPN or
    >> >> Secure Shell (SSH) tunnel for added security. I have done both and
    >> >> currently use OpenVPN.
    >> >>
    >> >> With OpenVPN you need a cert, key and you protect the key with a
    >> >> strong
    >> >> password. With SSH you can use a key pair protected with a strong
    >> >> password.
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >> >>
    >> >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
    >> >> mutual benefit of all of us...
    >> >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> >> rights...
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:948E0614-618F-4A06-A24E-A649A0B896C5@microsoft.com...
    >> >>> Yeah, that makes sense. With my ISP I'd have to upgrade my home
    >> >>> account
    >> >>> to a business account for that. I was looking for the
    >> >>> free/easy/mindless
    >> >>> way to do it. Something like Remote Assistance without needing
    >> >>> someone
    >> >>> on the other side to respond when you click Request Control. You
    >> >>> connect
    >> >>> through an RA ticket or just by entering the IP addresses from that
    >> >>> ticket into some prompt, enter the password, and you're connected.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Not the most secure thing in the world. But hey, we're talking about
    >> >>> a
    >> >>> home network with a dynamic IP address. It's not like it would be
    >> >>> exposed all the time. You'd just have to remember to generate an RA
    >> >>> ticket or check your IP address before you leave.
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> >>> news:upbjWnkaGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> >>>> Well, it can be as simple as that yeh. All you need is an external
    >> >>>> IP
    >> >>>> of which your router or ISP can provide you with, or a direct port
    >> >>>> or
    >> >>>> something like that.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> I've done it with mine - I've got my computer names linked up to
    >> >>>> ***.zacknet.co.uk so I can access them wherever I go )
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> --
    >> >>>> Zack Whittaker
    >> >>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    >> >>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    >> >>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    >> >>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers
    >> >>>> no
    >> >>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
    >> >>>> and not
    >> >>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
    >> >>>> cleared
    >> >>>> that up!
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> --: Original message follows :--
    >> >>>> "Puppy Breath" <alan@coolnerds.com> wrote in message
    >> >>>> news:138BCF28-8754-4504-BABA-B827323FD219@microsoft.com...
    >> >>>>> The Remote Desktop documentation in Windows Ultimate (5308) is a
    >> >>>>> little confusing, as though it's not just a client. But it couldn't
    >> >>>>> possibly be the sort of thing where I just leave my home PC online
    >> >>>>> through my ISP, then connect to it remotely across the Internet,
    >> >>>>> right? My home machine would need a FQDN for me to even be able to
    >> >>>>> find it from afar, right? Not to mention Terminal Services, a Web
    >> >>>>> server, or something.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>




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