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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? > Sounds like a multiple gateway problem. Quote: > 2 gateways never like each other. > If you must have both networks active, remove the gateway from > one of the network cards configs. setting metrics on the interfaces and gateways. That's why I asked if anyone knows what "logic" the OS is trying to use to make this assumption about connectivity. Any links to discussions on it? As for gateways not liking each other, that's nonsense. The gateways work fine, it's a the eff'ed up STACK on the OS that's the problem. Cripes what a mess. How an OS can decide that a NIC shouldn't have a gateway address for it is screwed up, to say the least. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? > Welcome to Vista - so dumbed down that it's dumber than even MS Quote: > intended. Quote: > I wish I had a solution for you. Perhaps someone else here does. I can > tell you that I've seen multiple issues with dual connections. Vista > has issues with networking in general, and in particular with multiple > connections. > Quote: >>What's the proper solution? > Install XP. Vista without the UI bling. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:f6OdnZDDvaEC05vUnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Sounds like a multiple gateway problem. >> 2 gateways never like each other. >> If you must have both networks active, remove the gateway from >> one of the network cards configs. > Except that doesn't solve it. Nor does going with all static IP info and > setting metrics on the interfaces and gateways. That's why I asked if > anyone knows what "logic" the OS is trying to use to make this assumption > about connectivity. Any links to discussions on it? > > As for gateways not liking each other, that's nonsense. The gateways work > fine, it's a the eff'ed up STACK on the OS that's the problem. Cripes > what a mess. How an OS can decide that a NIC shouldn't have a gateway > address for it is screwed up, to say the least. No directions on what fork to take will crash you into the middle of the fork. As I stated, removing one of the gateways will give access again. Why do you need two cards on the Internet at all? Maybe more info about what you are doing will clarify how to get your dual gateway working. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? > 2 Gateways is like a fork in the road for Windows. Quote: > No directions on what fork to take will crash you into the middle of the > fork. the stack THAT stupid that it can't make use of them? Quote: > As I stated, removing one of the gateways will give access again. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? In message <Tu-dnUzhqInh8JrUnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@xxxxxx> "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: Quote: >> 2 Gateways is like a fork in the road for Windows. >> No directions on what fork to take will crash you into the middle of the >> fork. >There are 'directions'. They're called interface and gateway metrics. Is >the stack THAT stupid that it can't make use of them? different LANs and still am able to transmit and receive packets on both. I can force traffic for a specific destination IP out one or the other by way of the route command (route add destination.ip local.gateway) So in short, Vista handles this situation just fine. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:29:33 -0400, "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>What's the proper solution? >> Install XP. >Yeah, well, not for a server box. It's actually running Windows 2008, aka >Vista without the UI bling. about a server, I'll tweak my answer to "Install win 2003" :-) |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? In message <hsCdnRb4yZeA85fUnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@xxxxxx> "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:j76gg45spp6f02j7vvhohvmv7k6g7i9a3i@xxxxxx Quote: >> I have a VM with two virtual ethernet adapters, I connected them to >> different LANs and still am able to transmit and receive packets on >> both. >And yet, since I'm not using a VM, how does that relate? running with two gateways on two different networks, with two default gateways. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:b90lg4hlp3c7mligujccjpvogqnid9s4vt@xxxxxx Quote: > In message <hsCdnRb4yZeA85fUnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@xxxxxx> "Bill > Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: > Quote: >>"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>news:j76gg45spp6f02j7vvhohvmv7k6g7i9a3i@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I have a VM with two virtual ethernet adapters, I connected them to >>> different LANs and still am able to transmit and receive packets on >>> both. >>And yet, since I'm not using a VM, how does that relate? > Fairly simple -- This indicates that Vista's TCP stack is able to handle > running with two gateways on two different networks, with two default > gateways. in the thread. |
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| | Re: Local access only, no internet? In message <E8adnTnKlMOJ_ZHUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@xxxxxx> "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:b90lg4hlp3c7mligujccjpvogqnid9s4vt@xxxxxx Quote: >> In message <hsCdnRb4yZeA85fUnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@xxxxxx> "Bill >> Kearney" <wkearney99@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: >> Quote: >>>"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>news:j76gg45spp6f02j7vvhohvmv7k6g7i9a3i@xxxxxx >>>> I have a VM with two virtual ethernet adapters, I connected them to >>>> different LANs and still am able to transmit and receive packets on >>>> both. >>> >>>And yet, since I'm not using a VM, how does that relate? >> Fairly simple -- This indicates that Vista's TCP stack is able to handle >> running with two gateways on two different networks, with two default >> gateways. >And yet has nothing to do with actuall dealing with the problems presented >in the thread. <Tu-dnUzhqInh8JrUnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@xxxxxx>, where you wrote: |There are 'directions'. They're called interface and gateway metrics. Is |the stack THAT stupid that it can't make use of them? The answer is no, the stack isn't that stupid, and it can use gateway metrics as well as individual routing table metrics by way of the ROUTE command. |
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