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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I posted it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which but I was reading old message and saw this one "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2 >>computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on >>LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate >>RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it >>initially couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the >>UNC path to printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a >>test page. I then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't >>change any network settings from the defaults on either computer. It may >>be the problems people are having has to do with printers that have no >>native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems being >>networked. > > Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB printers > on XP or Linux. > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Ahh BigK, Got your back- Got it down to a science now(thanks for the info-btw) Kerry, Have an HP on a XP Home; and I get to it from Vista easy now; after BigK showed me how. Do this, In Vista, Control panel>printer>add printer- lpt-pick your printer driver-the networked one-install driver after you see the printer in vista right click on it>properties>add new port>local port type in \\computer\name Bingo-networked printer Jeff "bigk" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message news:%23bBtAqdEHHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I posted > it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which but I was > reading old message and saw this one > > > "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message > news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2 >>>computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on >>>LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate >>>RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it >>>initially couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the >>>UNC path to printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a >>>test page. I then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't >>>change any network settings from the defaults on either computer. It may >>>be the problems people are having has to do with printers that have no >>>native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems being >>>networked. >> >> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB printers >> on XP or Linux. >> >> >> > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. I posted this method in a few threads a while ago. One is the thread titled "Still Cannot Add Network Printer - Access Denied" in microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan. I tried to find the other threads about the subject to update them but I guess I missed this one. It's a common method to get a printer working when you're having networking problems. It works in most versions of Windows all the way back to win95. I hardly ever use XP Home so I had to setup a VPC image with XP Home to test it and make sure it worked with Home and Vista. By the time I did this all the threads on the subject were pretty old. -- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.vistahelp.ca Jeff wrote: > Ahh BigK, > Got your back- > Got it down to a science now(thanks for the info-btw) > > Kerry, > Have an HP on a XP Home; and I get to it from Vista easy now; after > BigK showed me how. > Do this, > In Vista, > Control panel>printer>add printer- lpt-pick your printer driver-the > networked one-install driver > after you see the printer in vista > right click on it>properties>add new port>local port > type in \\computer\name > Bingo-networked printer > > Jeff > > "bigk" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message > news:%23bBtAqdEHHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I >> posted it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which >> but I was reading old message and saw this one >> >> >> "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message >> news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >>> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2 >>>> computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home >>>> computer on LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print >>>> from a Vista Ultimate RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add >>>> a network printer it initially couldn't find any. I picked specify >>>> a printer and typed in the UNC path to printer. Vista found it >>>> installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I then tested >>>> printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network >>>> settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the >>>> problems people are having has to do with printers that have no >>>> native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems >>>> being networked. >>> >>> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB >>> printers on XP or Linux. |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. too littlte too late- usually my excuse bt thanks for tryin "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message news:%23ea9y2jEHHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I posted this method in a few threads a while ago. One is the thread titled >"Still Cannot Add Network Printer - Access Denied" in >microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan. I tried to find the other >threads about the subject to update them but I guess I missed this one. >It's a common method to get a printer working when you're having networking >problems. It works in most versions of Windows all the way back to win95. I >hardly ever use XP Home so I had to setup a VPC image with XP Home to test >it and make sure it worked with Home and Vista. By the time I did this all >the threads on the subject were pretty old. > > -- > Kerry > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > www.vistahelp.ca > > > > Jeff wrote: >> Ahh BigK, >> Got your back- >> Got it down to a science now(thanks for the info-btw) >> >> Kerry, >> Have an HP on a XP Home; and I get to it from Vista easy now; after >> BigK showed me how. >> Do this, >> In Vista, >> Control panel>printer>add printer- lpt-pick your printer driver-the >> networked one-install driver >> after you see the printer in vista >> right click on it>properties>add new port>local port >> type in \\computer\name >> Bingo-networked printer >> >> Jeff >> >> "bigk" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message >> news:%23bBtAqdEHHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I >>> posted it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which >>> but I was reading old message and saw this one >>> >>> >>> "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message >>> news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >>>> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2 >>>>> computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home >>>>> computer on LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print >>>>> from a Vista Ultimate RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add >>>>> a network printer it initially couldn't find any. I picked specify >>>>> a printer and typed in the UNC path to printer. Vista found it >>>>> installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I then tested >>>>> printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network >>>>> settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the >>>>> problems people are having has to do with printers that have no >>>>> native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems >>>>> being networked. >>>> >>>> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB >>>> printers on XP or Linux. > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Jordan I know your feeling. I cant seem to get my laptop (vista) to work with my Printer on a destop (xp) tried everything and I trully believe there is no simple answer. Every where, and everyone's advice as not pan'd out for me either. "Jordan H." wrote: > Yep, I actually don't run UAC at all. I find it EXTREMELY annoying. No > offence intended but, I Build and repair PCs as a side job. I don't need a > computer requiring permission for everything that I do. Granted UAC is > probably a good Idea in that it prevents automatic start up of harmful > software/Drivers etc, but to me it's just an annoyance as I know exactly what > my machine is running. ANywho, slightly offf topic there, sorry. UAC isn't > the problem with the driver, the machine is looking for something that isn't > there, ie. an attached USB printer. The driver install on the add printer > wizard for TCP/IP is trying to install the driver and it doesn't complete as > it's looking for that port that doesn't exist except on the other PC. At > least that's my theory. > > Another thought I had was that ICS isn't started in Vista where as it runs > by default on XP because it's also the windows firewall service. Might that > be the problem? ICS was how XP, Regardless of version, shared it's network > connection, Vista doesn't do that so maybe XP is having a hard time with it. > > I was looking at installing the printer on the Vista box and sharing it that > way but, unfortunately it's an AIO and my wife needs the scanner, you can't > network scanners worth a hoot. > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > Jordan H. wrote: > > > More info, > > > > > > Tried Installing the printer Locally and it wouldn't work as the > > > printer is actually usb and not connected to the Vista box. The > > > InstallShield is looking for a local usb printer and not finding it. > > > Also tried installing to a TCP/IP Port and the install actually > > > hangs. gets as far as installing the driver and won't finish. I've > > > actually had to reboot to clear it. HELP!!!!!!! > > > > > > > Did you try temporarily disabling UAC? > > > > -- > > Kerry > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. The solution for the printer problem was solved for me by HP support. From the remote VISTA computer, mine a notebook connecting with the XP desktop, in the control panel PRINTERS: a) Click Start and then Printers and Faxes in Windows XP. b) Right-click the printer icon for the All-in-One product and select Sharing on the menu. The Properties will appear with the Sharing tab on top. c) Click the option to share the printer, and then enter a unique name for the printer in the Share Name field. Write this name down exactly as it is entered because it will be required to set up the remote computers. Click OK to finish the setup. Perform the following steps on the Vista computer. a) Click the Start () icon, click Control Panel, and then click Printers. Launch the "Add a Printer" wizard b) Choose "Add a local printer" c) Select "Create a new port" radio button and choose "Local Port" from the drop down menu. d) Press Next e) In the "Enter Port Name:" box enter the following: \\Desktop\Printer where "Desktop" = the computer name of XP computer and "Printer" = the printer share name. f) Select the Printer driver from the list provided or use the "Have Disk" button to install the correct Vista driver if it is not in the built-in list. It is critical that the driver you use is Vista compatible. g) Press next h) Give the printer a distinct name and choose whether to set as the default. i) Press Next This worked flawlessly for me, Ken "Kerry Brown" wrote: > The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get it > now. > > -- > Kerry > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > Jordan H. wrote: > > Just a quick question Kerry, > > You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of > > RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating > > around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I > > get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never > > had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only > > problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer > > was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver. > > Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help? > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > >> "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message > >> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the > >>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer > >>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista > >>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the > >>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button. > >>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You > >>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer > >>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for > >>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista > >>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change > >>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. > >>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not > >>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You > >>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB > >>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP > >>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed > >>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a > >>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a > >>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often > >>>> have problems. > >>> > >>> > >>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is > >>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista > >>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). > >>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the > >>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it > >>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access > >>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS > >>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If > >>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business. > >>> > >> > >> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I > >> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It > >> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build > >> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 > >> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser > >> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am > >> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an > >> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the > >> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the > >> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. > >> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the > >> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. > >> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP > >> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped > >> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer > >> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt > >> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it > >> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The > >> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have > >> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is > >> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in > >> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially > >> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer > >> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. > >> > >> -- > >> Kerry Brown > >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > >> www.vistahelp.ca > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. The key is "Add a local printer". thank you for the post. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Ken" <Ken@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:64532A81-D0A5-4BBC-A9B3-627583AFB696@microsoft.com... The solution for the printer problem was solved for me by HP support. From the remote VISTA computer, mine a notebook connecting with the XP desktop, in the control panel PRINTERS: a) Click Start and then Printers and Faxes in Windows XP. b) Right-click the printer icon for the All-in-One product and select Sharing on the menu. The Properties will appear with the Sharing tab on top. c) Click the option to share the printer, and then enter a unique name for the printer in the Share Name field. Write this name down exactly as it is entered because it will be required to set up the remote computers. Click OK to finish the setup. Perform the following steps on the Vista computer. a) Click the Start () icon, click Control Panel, and then click Printers. Launch the "Add a Printer" wizard b) Choose "Add a local printer" c) Select "Create a new port" radio button and choose "Local Port" from the drop down menu. d) Press Next e) In the "Enter Port Name:" box enter the following: \\Desktop\Printer where "Desktop" = the computer name of XP computer and "Printer" = the printer share name. f) Select the Printer driver from the list provided or use the "Have Disk" button to install the correct Vista driver if it is not in the built-in list. It is critical that the driver you use is Vista compatible. g) Press next h) Give the printer a distinct name and choose whether to set as the default. i) Press Next This worked flawlessly for me, Ken "Kerry Brown" wrote: > The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get it > now. > > -- > Kerry > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > Jordan H. wrote: > > Just a quick question Kerry, > > You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of > > RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating > > around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I > > get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never > > had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only > > problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer > > was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver. > > Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help? > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > >> "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message > >> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the > >>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer > >>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista > >>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the > >>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button. > >>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You > >>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer > >>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for > >>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista > >>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change > >>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. > >>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not > >>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You > >>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB > >>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP > >>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed > >>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a > >>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a > >>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often > >>>> have problems. > >>> > >>> > >>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is > >>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista > >>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). > >>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the > >>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it > >>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access > >>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS > >>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If > >>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business. > >>> > >> > >> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I > >> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It > >> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build > >> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 > >> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser > >> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am > >> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an > >> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the > >> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the > >> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. > >> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the > >> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. > >> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP > >> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped > >> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer > >> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt > >> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it > >> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The > >> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have > >> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is > >> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in > >> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially > >> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer > >> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. > >> > >> -- > >> Kerry Brown > >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > >> www.vistahelp.ca > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Ken - I followed your solution and it looked like it was going to work, but I'm getting a "Can't communicate with Printer" error message when I try to print a test page. Any insight is appreciated! I'm using the same workgroup name and both firewalls are turned off. Thanks! - Mike Heyden "Ken" wrote: > The solution for the printer problem was solved for me by HP support. > > From the remote VISTA computer, mine a notebook connecting with the XP > desktop, in the control panel PRINTERS: > > a) Click Start and then Printers and Faxes in Windows XP. > b) Right-click the printer icon for the All-in-One product and select > Sharing on the menu. The Properties will appear with the Sharing tab on top. > c) Click the option to share the printer, and then enter a unique name for > the printer in the Share Name field. Write this name down exactly as it is > entered because it will be required to set up the remote computers. Click OK > to finish the setup. > Perform the following steps on the Vista computer. > a) Click the Start () icon, click Control Panel, and then click Printers. > Launch the "Add a Printer" wizard > b) Choose "Add a local printer" > c) Select "Create a new port" radio button and choose "Local Port" from the > drop down menu. > d) Press Next > e) In the "Enter Port Name:" box enter the following: \\Desktop\Printer > where "Desktop" = the computer name of XP computer and "Printer" = the > printer > share name. > f) Select the Printer driver from the list provided or use the "Have Disk" > button to install the correct Vista driver if it is not in the built-in list. > It is critical that the driver you use is Vista compatible. > g) Press next > h) Give the printer a distinct name and choose whether to set as the default. > i) Press Next > > This worked flawlessly for me, > Ken > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get it > > now. > > > > -- > > Kerry > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > > > > Jordan H. wrote: > > > Just a quick question Kerry, > > > You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of > > > RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating > > > around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I > > > get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never > > > had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only > > > problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer > > > was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver. > > > Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help? > > > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > > > >> "BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message > > >> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > >>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the > > >>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer > > >>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista > > >>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the > > >>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button. > > >>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You > > >>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer > > >>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for > > >>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista > > >>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change > > >>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. > > >>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not > > >>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You > > >>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB > > >>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP > > >>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed > > >>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a > > >>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a > > >>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often > > >>>> have problems. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is > > >>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista > > >>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). > > >>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the > > >>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it > > >>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access > > >>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS > > >>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If > > >>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business. > > >>> > > >> > > >> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I > > >> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It > > >> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build > > >> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 > > >> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser > > >> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am > > >> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an > > >> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the > > >> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the > > >> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. > > >> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the > > >> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. > > >> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP > > >> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped > > >> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer > > >> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt > > >> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it > > >> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The > > >> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have > > >> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is > > >> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in > > >> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially > > >> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer > > >> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kerry Brown > > >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > >> www.vistahelp.ca > > > > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Thank you i have been struggeling for some time "Ken" wrote: Quote: > The solution for the printer problem was solved for me by HP support. > > From the remote VISTA computer, mine a notebook connecting with the XP > desktop, in the control panel PRINTERS: > > a) Click Start and then Printers and Faxes in Windows XP. > b) Right-click the printer icon for the All-in-One product and select > Sharing on the menu. The Properties will appear with the Sharing tab on top. > c) Click the option to share the printer, and then enter a unique name for > the printer in the Share Name field. Write this name down exactly as it is > entered because it will be required to set up the remote computers. Click OK > to finish the setup. > Perform the following steps on the Vista computer. > a) Click the Start () icon, click Control Panel, and then click Printers. > Launch the "Add a Printer" wizard > b) Choose "Add a local printer" > c) Select "Create a new port" radio button and choose "Local Port" from the > drop down menu. > d) Press Next > e) In the "Enter Port Name:" box enter the following: \\Desktop\Printer > where "Desktop" = the computer name of XP computer and "Printer" = the > printer > share name. > f) Select the Printer driver from the list provided or use the "Have Disk" > button to install the correct Vista driver if it is not in the built-in list. > It is critical that the driver you use is Vista compatible. > g) Press next > h) Give the printer a distinct name and choose whether to set as the default. > i) Press Next > > This worked flawlessly for me, > Ken > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > Quote: > > The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get it > > now. > > > > -- > > Kerry > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > > > > > Jordan H. wrote: Quote: > > > Just a quick question Kerry, > > > You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of > > > RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating > > > around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I > > > get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never > > > had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only > > > problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer > > > was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver. > > > Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help? > > > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > > > >> "BigK" <bigk@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > >> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@xxxxxx > > >>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the > > >>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer > > >>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista > > >>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the > > >>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button. > > >>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You > > >>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer > > >>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for > > >>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista > > >>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change > > >>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. > > >>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not > > >>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You > > >>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB > > >>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP > > >>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed > > >>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a > > >>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a > > >>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often > > >>>> have problems. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is > > >>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista > > >>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). > > >>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the > > >>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it > > >>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access > > >>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS > > >>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If > > >>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business. > > >>> > > >> > > >> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I > > >> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It > > >> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build > > >> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 > > >> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser > > >> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am > > >> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an > > >> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the > > >> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the > > >> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. > > >> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the > > >> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. > > >> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP > > >> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped > > >> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer > > >> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt > > >> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it > > >> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The > > >> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have > > >> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is > > >> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in > > >> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially > > >> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer > > >> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kerry Brown > > >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > >> www.vistahelp.ca > > > > |
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| | Re: Can't Access Printer- Access Denied. Thank you for the feedback. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "jj22" <jj22@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C31EE00A-F307-420E-A546-19840B3FE572@xxxxxx Quote: > Thank you i have been struggeling for some time > > "Ken" wrote: > Quote: >> The solution for the printer problem was solved for me by HP support. >> >> From the remote VISTA computer, mine a notebook connecting with the XP >> desktop, in the control panel PRINTERS: >> >> a) Click Start and then Printers and Faxes in Windows XP. >> b) Right-click the printer icon for the All-in-One product and select >> Sharing on the menu. The Properties will appear with the Sharing tab on >> top. >> c) Click the option to share the printer, and then enter a unique name >> for >> the printer in the Share Name field. Write this name down exactly as it >> is >> entered because it will be required to set up the remote computers. Click >> OK >> to finish the setup. >> Perform the following steps on the Vista computer. >> a) Click the Start () icon, click Control Panel, and then click Printers. >> Launch the "Add a Printer" wizard >> b) Choose "Add a local printer" >> c) Select "Create a new port" radio button and choose "Local Port" from >> the >> drop down menu. >> d) Press Next >> e) In the "Enter Port Name:" box enter the following: \\Desktop\Printer >> where "Desktop" = the computer name of XP computer and "Printer" = the >> printer >> share name. >> f) Select the Printer driver from the list provided or use the "Have >> Disk" >> button to install the correct Vista driver if it is not in the built-in >> list. >> It is critical that the driver you use is Vista compatible. >> g) Press next >> h) Give the printer a distinct name and choose whether to set as the >> default. >> i) Press Next >> >> This worked flawlessly for me, >> Ken >> >> "Kerry Brown" wrote: >> Quote: >> > The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get >> > it >> > now. >> > >> > -- >> > Kerry >> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >> > http://www.vistahelp.ca >> > >> > >> > Jordan H. wrote: >> > > Just a quick question Kerry, >> > > You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of >> > > RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating >> > > around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I >> > > get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never >> > > had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only >> > > problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer >> > > was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver. >> > > Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help? >> > > >> > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: >> > > >> > >> "BigK" <bigk@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > >> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@xxxxxx >> > >>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the >> > >>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer >> > >>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista >> > >>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the >> > >>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button. >> > >>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You >> > >>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer >> > >>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for >> > >>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista >> > >>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change >> > >>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. >> > >>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not >> > >>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You >> > >>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB >> > >>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP >> > >>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed >> > >>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a >> > >>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a >> > >>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often >> > >>>> have problems. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is >> > >>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista >> > >>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). >> > >>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the >> > >>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it >> > >>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access >> > >>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS >> > >>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If >> > >>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business. >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I >> > >> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It >> > >> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build >> > >> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 >> > >> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser >> > >> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am >> > >> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an >> > >> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the >> > >> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the >> > >> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. >> > >> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the >> > >> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. >> > >> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP >> > >> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped >> > >> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer >> > >> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt >> > >> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it >> > >> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The >> > >> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have >> > >> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is >> > >> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in >> > >> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially >> > >> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer >> > >> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Kerry Brown >> > >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >> > >> www.vistahelp.ca >> > >> > >> > |
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