Just installed Vista RC2 - install went without a hitch, all drivers seem to
be detected including NIC but......(-;

Try to browse using IE and "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"
So I test the basics - can i ping the gateway by IP- Yes
Can I ping google.com - No - ok, so DNS issue but...
I can do a nslookup, uses my ISP's DNS server and I put in google.com and it
resolves it!!! arghh...
I go back into IE and type in 72.14.207.99 and it comes back with Googles
homepage so no connectivity issue...

Now I'm confused - nslookup works, I can also ping by name other PC's on
the LAN (which is using netbios name resolution i guess) but i can't ping by
name, telnet by name or use other apps which need to do a DNS lookup..

My only theory at the moment is that maybe its a IP6 issue - its turned on
by default inVista RC2 but I've unticked it in net connections (can't seem
to uninstall it) and still no go...

Any ideas or similar Vista experiences would be welcome...



cheers / martin

"Martin" <martin@NOSPAMwake.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Just installed Vista RC2 - install went without a hitch, all drivers seem
to
> be detected including NIC but......(-;
>
> Try to browse using IE and "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"
> So I test the basics - can i ping the gateway by IP- Yes
> Can I ping google.com - No - ok, so DNS issue but...
> I can do a nslookup, uses my ISP's DNS server and I put in google.com and
it
> resolves it!!! arghh...
> I go back into IE and type in 72.14.207.99 and it comes back with Googles
> homepage so no connectivity issue...
>
> Now I'm confused - nslookup works, I can also ping by name other PC's on
> the LAN (which is using netbios name resolution i guess) but i can't ping
by
> name, telnet by name or use other apps which need to do a DNS lookup..
>
> My only theory at the moment is that maybe its a IP6 issue - its turned on
> by default inVista RC2 but I've unticked it in net connections (can't
seem
> to uninstall it) and still no go...
>
> Any ideas or similar Vista experiences would be welcome...
>
> cheers / martin
>
Some progress - If i use ping -4 google.com it works!! So I'm now sure its a
IP6 issue - the question is now how do I remove (or disable) Ip6 from Vista?

Martin wrote:

> Some progress - If i use ping -4 google.com it works!! So I'm now
> sure its a IP6 issue - the question is now how do I remove (or
> disable) Ip6 from Vista?
>
google.com has no ip6 address, so should never be affected.

I'm guessing it's one or more of these:

(a) you have an ipv6 router on your network that is broadcasting global
addresses but not routing correctly.
(b) Your DHCP server is giving an ipv6 address for the DNS server but
there is no DNS server at that location.
(c) Your DNS server is broken and returning AAAA records where none exist.

The first two can be checked just by using ipconfig /all. Use nslookup
for the third

nslookup
> set type=aaaa
> google.com

You can just unbind ipv6 from the interface to switch it off, but I
strongly recommend fixing the network problem - these things always come
back to bite you in the ass later.

Tony

"Tony Hoyle" <TonyHoyle@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Martin wrote:
>
> > Some progress - If i use ping -4 google.com it works!! So I'm now
> > sure its a IP6 issue - the question is now how do I remove (or
> > disable) Ip6 from Vista?
> >
> google.com has no ip6 address, so should never be affected.
>
> I'm guessing it's one or more of these:
>
> (a) you have an ipv6 router on your network that is broadcasting global
> addresses but not routing correctly.
> (b) Your DHCP server is giving an ipv6 address for the DNS server but
> there is no DNS server at that location.
> (c) Your DNS server is broken and returning AAAA records where none exist.
>
> The first two can be checked just by using ipconfig /all. Use nslookup
> for the third
>
> nslookup
> > set type=aaaa
> > google.com
>
> You can just unbind ipv6 from the interface to switch it off, but I
> strongly recommend fixing the network problem - these things always come
> back to bite you in the ass later.
>
> Tony

thanks for the response Tony - no ipv6 router, checked the DNS server
address and its correct and no aaaa records returned from either my dns
server or a couple of others I tried..

I was only using google as an example - its the same for any address - if i
use ping -4 (to force IPv4) it works but otherwise it fails so I'm assuming
its using IP6, can't resolve it and isn't trying IP4 - Maybe I could just
change the dns resolution order....You wouldn;'t know how I do that would
you?? (-;

I am certainly no expert in this area, but did you ever use IE7 in XP?
There might be a situation with the security or some other setting in IE or
the Windows Firewall causing the problem. You might think about downloading
the Firefox beta 2.0 or something and see if it can get to the sites. I
seem to remember a problem when I started using IE7 something like you are
having, but I don't remember what changed.

Otherwise, try changing some of the IE settings or the firewall settings.
It would seem strange to me if you were having an IP6 problem that everyone
else wouldn't have it also.

Clark

"Martin" <martin@NOSPAMwake.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "Tony Hoyle" <TonyHoyle@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:u7erkcR7GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>> > Some progress - If i use ping -4 google.com it works!! So I'm now
>> > sure its a IP6 issue - the question is now how do I remove (or
>> > disable) Ip6 from Vista?
>> >
>> google.com has no ip6 address, so should never be affected.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's one or more of these:
>>
>> (a) you have an ipv6 router on your network that is broadcasting global
>> addresses but not routing correctly.
>> (b) Your DHCP server is giving an ipv6 address for the DNS server but
>> there is no DNS server at that location.
>> (c) Your DNS server is broken and returning AAAA records where none
>> exist.
>>
>> The first two can be checked just by using ipconfig /all. Use nslookup
>> for the third
>>
>> nslookup
>> > set type=aaaa
>> > google.com
>>
>> You can just unbind ipv6 from the interface to switch it off, but I
>> strongly recommend fixing the network problem - these things always come
>> back to bite you in the ass later.
>>
>> Tony
>
> thanks for the response Tony - no ipv6 router, checked the DNS server
> address and its correct and no aaaa records returned from either my dns
> server or a couple of others I tried..
>
> I was only using google as an example - its the same for any address - if
> i
> use ping -4 (to force IPv4) it works but otherwise it fails so I'm
> assuming
> its using IP6, can't resolve it and isn't trying IP4 - Maybe I could just
> change the dns resolution order....You wouldn;'t know how I do that would
> you?? (-;
>
>

What DNS server is showing in ipconfig /all? Is it the same one that worked
with nslookup?

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Martin wrote:
> Just installed Vista RC2 - install went without a hitch, all drivers
> seem to be detected including NIC but......(-;
>
> Try to browse using IE and "Internet Explorer cannot display the
> webpage" So I test the basics - can i ping the gateway by IP- Yes
> Can I ping google.com - No - ok, so DNS issue but...
> I can do a nslookup, uses my ISP's DNS server and I put in google.com
> and it resolves it!!! arghh...
> I go back into IE and type in 72.14.207.99 and it comes back with
> Googles homepage so no connectivity issue...
>
> Now I'm confused - nslookup works, I can also ping by name other
> PC's on the LAN (which is using netbios name resolution i guess) but
> i can't ping by name, telnet by name or use other apps which need to
> do a DNS lookup..
>
> My only theory at the moment is that maybe its a IP6 issue - its
> turned on by default inVista RC2 but I've unticked it in net
> connections (can't seem to uninstall it) and still no go...
>
> Any ideas or similar Vista experiences would be welcome...
>
> cheers / martin

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:ubeU9BU7GHA.3284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What DNS server is showing in ipconfig /all? Is it the same one that
worked
> with nslookup?
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

Yes, and I have tried several other ISP DNS servers - same result -
interestingly I have wiped RC2 and installed Vista Beta 2 and don't have the
same issue...

I'm tempted to try an upgrade of beta2 to RC2 (if it lets me) and see if the
issue comes back..

Also, using RC2 I did untick IP6 and check the binding order and IP4 is at
the top and it still appears to use IP6 first when I ping names!! (this is
proven by the fact that ping google.com doesn't work but ping -4 google.com
does work)

Also again (-: this issue doesn't just happen in IE so thanks for the advice
to use firefox but if it effects ping and telnet as well then it isn't a
browser issue.

Martin wrote:
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:ubeU9BU7GHA.3284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What DNS server is showing in ipconfig /all? Is it the same one that
>> worked with nslookup?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>
> Yes, and I have tried several other ISP DNS servers - same result -
> interestingly I have wiped RC2 and installed Vista Beta 2 and don't
> have the same issue...
>
> I'm tempted to try an upgrade of beta2 to RC2 (if it lets me) and see
> if the issue comes back..
>
> Also, using RC2 I did untick IP6 and check the binding order and IP4
> is at the top and it still appears to use IP6 first when I ping
> names!! (this is proven by the fact that ping google.com doesn't work
> but ping -4 google.com does work)
>
> Also again (-: this issue doesn't just happen in IE so thanks for the
> advice to use firefox but if it effects ping and telnet as well then
> it isn't a browser issue.

It does sound strange. If you try the upgrade let us know the results.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:eJmYQOg7GHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Martin wrote:
> > "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> > news:ubeU9BU7GHA.3284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> What DNS server is showing in ipconfig /all? Is it the same one that
> >> worked with nslookup?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry
> >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Yes, and I have tried several other ISP DNS servers - same result -
> > interestingly I have wiped RC2 and installed Vista Beta 2 and don't
> > have the same issue...
> >
> > I'm tempted to try an upgrade of beta2 to RC2 (if it lets me) and see
> > if the issue comes back..
> >
> > Also, using RC2 I did untick IP6 and check the binding order and IP4
> > is at the top and it still appears to use IP6 first when I ping
> > names!! (this is proven by the fact that ping google.com doesn't work
> > but ping -4 google.com does work)
> >
> > Also again (-: this issue doesn't just happen in IE so thanks for the
> > advice to use firefox but if it effects ping and telnet as well then
> > it isn't a browser issue.
>
> It does sound strange. If you try the upgrade let us know the results.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
Hi,

Tried to to an upgrade from within beta2 but it said upgrade was disabled -
only supports upgrade from Vista(!) or XP SP2 so I have a fully working
Beta2 with Cisco Vpn, Office 2K7, NOD32, VNC, Firefox but no way of going to
RC2 without wiping and starting again and maybe having exactly the same
issue.....decisions...decisions (-;

The only other thing that has come to mind since I started this process is I
use an unusual internal subnet - Due to some historical reasons (corp vpn
issues) I'm using 169.254.1.x as my internal IP address range - yes thats
right I'm using the APIPA range instead of 192.168 or 172.16 or 10. - this
has never been an issue so far..... (-;

thanks everyone for their comments.

Martin wrote:
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:eJmYQOg7GHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Martin wrote:
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:ubeU9BU7GHA.3284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> What DNS server is showing in ipconfig /all? Is it the same one
>>>> that worked with nslookup?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kerry
>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and I have tried several other ISP DNS servers - same result -
>>> interestingly I have wiped RC2 and installed Vista Beta 2 and don't
>>> have the same issue...
>>>
>>> I'm tempted to try an upgrade of beta2 to RC2 (if it lets me) and
>>> see if the issue comes back..
>>>
>>> Also, using RC2 I did untick IP6 and check the binding order and IP4
>>> is at the top and it still appears to use IP6 first when I ping
>>> names!! (this is proven by the fact that ping google.com doesn't
>>> work but ping -4 google.com does work)
>>>
>>> Also again (-: this issue doesn't just happen in IE so thanks for
>>> the advice to use firefox but if it effects ping and telnet as well
>>> then it isn't a browser issue.
>>
>> It does sound strange. If you try the upgrade let us know the
>> results.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
> Hi,
>
> Tried to to an upgrade from within beta2 but it said upgrade was
> disabled - only supports upgrade from Vista(!) or XP SP2 so I have a
> fully working Beta2 with Cisco Vpn, Office 2K7, NOD32, VNC, Firefox
> but no way of going to RC2 without wiping and starting again and
> maybe having exactly the same issue.....decisions...decisions (-;
>
> The only other thing that has come to mind since I started this
> process is I use an unusual internal subnet - Due to some historical
> reasons (corp vpn issues) I'm using 169.254.1.x as my internal IP
> address range - yes thats right I'm using the APIPA range instead of
> 192.168 or 172.16 or 10. - this has never been an issue so far.....
> (-;
>
> thanks everyone for their comments.

There is another thread in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing group with the subject
"Does anyone from Microsoft read this group?" where someone has a very
similar problem. They are also using the APIPA range. You may want to reload
RC2 and report the bug. You could try reporting it from beta 2 but I don't
know if it will get noticed that way.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca