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File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same networ
  1. #1


    Daniel Ostro Guest

    File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same networ

    I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both
    connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even though
    they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer sharing is
    enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either laptop.
    So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the other one,
    but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it says it can't
    access it and that I may not have permission to access it.
    On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP
    laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that laptop.
    I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the internet,
    but I can't access the other computer!
    Is there anything I can do?
    I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this was
    before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that may be
    the issue.



    Thank you very much for the help!

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  2. #2


    Malke Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same networ

    Daniel Ostro wrote:

    > I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both
    > connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even
    > though they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer
    > sharing is enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either
    > laptop. So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the
    > other one, but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it
    > says it can't access it and that I may not have permission to access it.
    > On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP
    > laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that
    > laptop. I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the
    > internet, but I can't access the other computer!
    > Is there anything I can do?
    > I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this
    > was before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that
    > may be the issue.
    I don't know what changed, but here is my normal troubleshooting
    information. Take what you need.

    *****
    Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
    Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
    and folders:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

    For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
    caveat in Item A below).

    Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
    by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
    firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
    built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
    identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
    to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

    A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
    traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
    Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
    XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
    will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
    third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
    firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
    usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
    192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
    subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
    how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
    DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

    B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
    is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

    C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
    need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
    assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
    need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
    PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
    to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
    can do this:

    XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

    Vista - Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
    Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
    UAC

    Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this
    computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the
    desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password
    for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if
    there is no password (null).

    D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
    Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

    E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
    directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
    directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
    See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
    *****

    Malke
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    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ


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  3. #3


    Malke Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same ne

    Daniel Ostro wrote:

    > Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any
    > settings?
    The versions I've seen do, yes. Sometimes it's called "Internet Worm
    Protection". And yes, of course you need to configure it to allow LAN
    traffic. And you need to make sure you only have one firewall running. I
    can't say whether you need to change settings because I don't know how you
    have things set now. I can't answer any questions about configuring Norton
    products because I don't support them and I won't install them for clients.

    I recommend either NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (free) antivirus programs and
    the built-in Windows Firewall for most people.

    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ


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  4. #4


    Daniel Ostro Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same ne

    Thank you.
    I am also having an issue because I can't ping my Vista laptop when I try on
    my XP laptop.
    How can I fix this and why does this happen?

    "Malke" wrote:

    > Daniel Ostro wrote:
    >

    > > Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any
    > > settings?
    >
    > The versions I've seen do, yes. Sometimes it's called "Internet Worm
    > Protection". And yes, of course you need to configure it to allow LAN
    > traffic. And you need to make sure you only have one firewall running. I
    > can't say whether you need to change settings because I don't know how you
    > have things set now. I can't answer any questions about configuring Norton
    > products because I don't support them and I won't install them for clients.
    >
    > I recommend either NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (free) antivirus programs and
    > the built-in Windows Firewall for most people.
    >
    > Malke
    > --
    > MS-MVP
    > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
    >
    >

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  5. #5


    Malke Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same ne

    Daniel Ostro wrote:

    > Thank you.
    > I am also having an issue because I can't ping my Vista laptop when I try
    > on my XP laptop.
    > How can I fix this and why does this happen?
    Fix the network file/printer sharing issue and properly configure your
    firewalls.

    Malke
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    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ


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  6. #6


    techloutre Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the samenetwor

    On Apr 24, 4:54*am, Malke <ma...@xxxxxx> wrote:

    > Daniel Ostro wrote:

    > > I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both
    ....snip...

    > See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
    > *****
    >
    > Malke
    Feedback: This did the trick. I had the same problem and checked the
    three machines we use in the house (XP Pro, Vista Home, and Vista
    Business) that were unable to communicate with each other. Turned out
    to be McAfee firewall turned on, on two of the units (one of those 3-
    PC anti-everything packages). I turned off the McAfee firewalls on
    the XP and VistaBus machine, and my wife can now print from the other
    end of the house and I can access my data files from the garage.
    Thank you Very Much.

    Otter

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  7. #7


    Malke Guest

    Re: File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same networ

    techloutre@xxxxxx wrote:

    > On Apr 24, 4:54*am, Malke <ma...@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >> Daniel Ostro wrote:

    >> > I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and
    >> > both
    > ...snip...

    >> See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

    > Feedback: This did the trick. I had the same problem and checked the
    > three machines we use in the house (XP Pro, Vista Home, and Vista
    > Business) that were unable to communicate with each other. Turned out
    > to be McAfee firewall turned on, on two of the units (one of those 3-
    > PC anti-everything packages). I turned off the McAfee firewalls on
    > the XP and VistaBus machine, and my wife can now print from the other
    > end of the house and I can access my data files from the garage.
    > Thank you Very Much.
    Thank you very much for taking the time to share your solution. Your
    feedback is appreciated.

    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ


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