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Old 10-08-2009   #1 (permalink)
ABH83


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive


I forgot to mention that I have exchanged both Modem and Router twice
already!


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Old 10-09-2009   #2 (permalink)
ABH83


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive


Thank you for all the swift replies!

Bill Kearney;4644669 Wrote:
Quote:

> Connect the laptop using a cat5 ethernet wire. See if the problem is
> the
> same. That will at least narrow down whether it's a wireless issue or
> not.
>
> What network configuration is being used on the Lacie unit? Can you
> bring
> up it's config page and see what it's setup to use?
>
> Try using the laptop with a wired connection and report back.
>
> -Bill Kearney
When I connect the laptop using ethernet cable I no longer have this
issue. I guess its because copying files on a wired connection usually
takes me about 2 mins as opposed to copying files wirelessly which take
me about 20-60 mins.

Network configuration on the LaCie is set to automatic (DHCP).

'Jack [MVP-Networking Wrote:
Quote:

> ;4644672']Hi
> Is it a LaCie related problem.
> I.e. transfer of similar data computer to computer without using the
> NAS
> works OK.
> If it is a LaCie problem, make sure that what ever protocol it uses his
> also
> used by the computer and its configuration is correct.
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
Yes it seems this is related to the LaCie drive only. I did not notice
any internet disturbance when copying files form other computers.
However, when I copy files form other computers it will slow down the
"host" computer (the one i'm copying from) imensly... almost unusable.
Is that normal?

Tae Song;4644854 Wrote:
Quote:

> How are you copying the files? FTP, Windows networking or software that
> came with LeCie?
>
> I don't think it's the firewall or antivirus software.
>
> The cable modem is responding (quite badly) to the traffic between the
> computer and network storage device.
>
> This is in strange in itself.
>
> Is the Arris CM450 connected to the ethernet port labeled Internet on
> the
> Linksys WRT54GL or one of the four numbered ethernet ports?
The LaCie drive came with a software called Network Assistant. I also
use the web browser to access admin controls.

In the user manual it recommends installing the software. But from what
I can tell the software doesn't do much.

I used Windows to map network drives. So I guess I'm using Windows
networking.

Yes the Arris Cable modem is connected to the Ethernet port labeled
internet (IN) and the NetworkSpace is conected to the Ethernet port 2
(OUT).


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Old 10-09-2009   #3 (permalink)
Tae Song


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive


"ABH83" <ABH83.3zsdvc@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:ABH83.3zsdvc@newsgroup
Quote:

>
> Thank you for all the swift replies!
>
> Bill Kearney;4644669 Wrote:
Quote:

>> Connect the laptop using a cat5 ethernet wire. See if the problem is
>> the
>> same. That will at least narrow down whether it's a wireless issue or
>> not.
>>
>> What network configuration is being used on the Lacie unit? Can you
>> bring
>> up it's config page and see what it's setup to use?
>>
>> Try using the laptop with a wired connection and report back.
>>
>> -Bill Kearney
>
> When I connect the laptop using ethernet cable I no longer have this
> issue. I guess its because copying files on a wired connection usually
> takes me about 2 mins as opposed to copying files wirelessly which take
> me about 20-60 mins.
>
> Network configuration on the LaCie is set to automatic (DHCP).
>
> 'Jack [MVP-Networking Wrote:
Quote:

>> ;4644672']Hi
>> Is it a LaCie related problem.
>> I.e. transfer of similar data computer to computer without using the
>> NAS
>> works OK.
>> If it is a LaCie problem, make sure that what ever protocol it uses his
>> also
>> used by the computer and its configuration is correct.
>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>
> Yes it seems this is related to the LaCie drive only. I did not notice
> any internet disturbance when copying files form other computers.
> However, when I copy files form other computers it will slow down the
> "host" computer (the one i'm copying from) imensly... almost unusable.
> Is that normal?
>
> Tae Song;4644854 Wrote:
Quote:

>> How are you copying the files? FTP, Windows networking or software that
>> came with LeCie?
>>
>> I don't think it's the firewall or antivirus software.
>>
>> The cable modem is responding (quite badly) to the traffic between the
>> computer and network storage device.
>>
>> This is in strange in itself.
>>
>> Is the Arris CM450 connected to the ethernet port labeled Internet on
>> the
>> Linksys WRT54GL or one of the four numbered ethernet ports?
>
> The LaCie drive came with a software called Network Assistant. I also
> use the web browser to access admin controls.
>
> In the user manual it recommends installing the software. But from what
> I can tell the software doesn't do much.
>
> I used Windows to map network drives. So I guess I'm using Windows
> networking.
>
> Yes the Arris Cable modem is connected to the Ethernet port labeled
> internet (IN) and the NetworkSpace is conected to the Ethernet port 2
> (OUT).
>
>
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That's very strange. Traffic between LaCie and your computer shouldn't be
reaching the cable-modem at all.

Can you list which IP addresses are being assigned to which device?

Linksys
Computer
LaCie
Ariss

You should be able to get all the info from the Linksys.

Login to the Linksys and click on the Status tab. This will give IP
configuration coming from the Ariss to Linksys.

Under Status, you should see Router | Local Network | Wireless

Click on Local Network and click on the DHCP Clients Table button for the
other devices... assuming the menu is similar to the Linksys WRT54G I am
using.


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Old 10-09-2009   #4 (permalink)
smlunatick


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive

On Oct 9, 11:32*am, ABH83 <ABH83.3zs...@newsgroup> wrote:
Quote:

> Thank you for all the swift replies!
>
> Bill Kearney;4644669 Wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Connect the laptop using a cat5 ethernet wire. *See if the problem is
> > the
> > same. *That will at least narrow down whether it's a wireless issue or
> > not.
>
Quote:

> > What network configuration is being used on the Lacie unit? * Can you
> > bring
> > up it's config page and see what it's setup to use?
>
Quote:

> > Try using the laptop with a wired connection and report back.
>
Quote:

> > -Bill Kearney
>
> When I connect the laptop using ethernet cable I no longer have this
> issue. I guess its because copying files on a wired connection usually
> takes me about 2 mins as opposed to copying files wirelessly which take
> me about 20-60 mins.
>
> Network configuration on the LaCie is set to automatic (DHCP).
>
> 'Jack [MVP-Networking Wrote:
>
Quote:

> > ;4644672']Hi
> > Is it a LaCie related problem.
> > I.e. transfer of similar data computer to computer without using the
> > NAS
> > works OK.
> > If it is a LaCie problem, make sure that what ever protocol it uses his
> > also
> > used by the computer and its configuration is correct.
> > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>
> Yes it seems this is related to the LaCie drive only. I did not notice
> any internet disturbance when copying files form other computers.
> However, when I copy files form other computers it will slow down the
> "host" computer (the one i'm copying from) imensly... almost unusable.
> Is that normal?
>
> Tae Song;4644854 Wrote:
>
Quote:

> > How are you copying the files? *FTP, Windows networking or software that
> > came with LeCie?
>
Quote:

> > I don't think it's the firewall or antivirus software.
>
Quote:

> > The cable modem is responding (quite badly) to the traffic between the
> > computer and network storage device.
>
Quote:

> > This is in strange in itself.
>
Quote:

> > Is the Arris CM450 connected to the ethernet port labeled Internet on
> > the
> > Linksys WRT54GL or one of the four numbered ethernet ports?
>
> The LaCie drive came with a software called Network Assistant. I also
> use the web browser to access admin controls.
>
> In the user manual it recommends installing the software. But from what
> I can tell the software doesn't do much.
>
> I used Windows to map network drives. So I guess I'm using Windows
> networking.
>
> Yes the Arris Cable modem is connected to the Ethernet port labeled
> internet (IN) and the NetworkSpace is conected to the Ethernet port 2
> (OUT).
>
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Please check the router's settings. Normally, it is possible to set
the wireless "connections" to be "separate" from the other
connections. On standard firmwares, this cam be known as "Wlan
Protection."
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Old 10-09-2009   #5 (permalink)
ABH83


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive


Tae Song;4645478 Wrote:
Quote:

> That's very strange. Traffic between LaCie and your computer shouldn't
> be
> reaching the cable-modem at all.
>
> Can you list which IP addresses are being assigned to which device?
>
> Linksys
> Computer
> LaCie
> Ariss
>
> You should be able to get all the info from the Linksys.
>
> Login to the Linksys and click on the Status tab. This will give IP
> configuration coming from the Ariss to Linksys.
>
> Under Status, you should see Router | Local Network | Wireless
>
> Click on Local Network and click on the DHCP Clients Table button for
> the
> other devices... assuming the menu is similar to the Linksys WRT54G I
> am
> using.
smlunatick;4645479 Wrote:
Quote:

>
>
> Please check the router's settings. Normally, it is possible to set
> the wireless "connections" to be "separate" from the other
> connections. On standard firmwares, this cam be known as "Wlan
> Protection."
Hi!

Sorry but there's something that just occured to me which I forgot to
mention before. I doubt it matters though?

I have a Desktop PC (Dell Dim 4400) attached via Ethernet to the
router.

It Uses an old 3com EtherLink card.

My router is set to clone the MAC addrees of that PC. (Due to an old
regulation of my ISP: allowing only one computer to be attached to the
modem).

The 2 other Laptops connect wirelessly.

Linksys: 192.168.1.1 static
Dell Desktop PC: 192.168.1.2 static
MY Laptop: 192.168.1.6 static
MetworkSpace: 192.168.1.13 static

WAN IP (Arris?): 80.108.170.23


Some additional info:

Under Status | Wireless:

TX Power is 50mW

and under Wireless Packet Info:

Transmitted (TX): a big number around 56..... OK, 334 errors.

Is that normal?

THX


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Old 10-09-2009   #6 (permalink)
Bill Kearney


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive

> Sorry but there's something that just occured to me which I forgot to
Quote:

> mention before. I doubt it matters though?
>
> My router is set to clone the MAC addrees of that PC. (Due to an old
> regulation of my ISP: allowing only one computer to be attached to the
> modem).
If the router configuration is done properly it should not matter.

You *may* want to considering totally resetting the configuration on the
router. It's possible you've got something setup incorrectly. It might be
best to reset the router to factory defaults and then start over from there.

Also, be *certain* that you've got everything wired into the correct ports.
And only once per device into the same network.

From each machine do an "arp -a" in the cmd prompt.

You should see that the IP to MAC addresses are consistent across each of
them. The arp tables won't be the same on all of the computer. Each
machine will only know about others that it connects with. You can cause a
machine to load an arp entry by using the ping command. So to get the
laptop on .6 to load an arp entry you'd just ping one of the other IP
addresses.

Post the 'arp -a' results here.

-Bill Kearney

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Old 10-10-2009   #7 (permalink)
Tae Song


 
 

Re: HELP! No internet when copying files from ethernet drive


"ABH83" <ABH83.3zsujb@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:ABH83.3zsujb@newsgroup
Quote:

>
> Tae Song;4645478 Wrote:
Quote:

>> That's very strange. Traffic between LaCie and your computer shouldn't
>> be
>> reaching the cable-modem at all.
>>
>> Can you list which IP addresses are being assigned to which device?
>>
>> Linksys
>> Computer
>> LaCie
>> Ariss
>>
>> You should be able to get all the info from the Linksys.
>>
>> Login to the Linksys and click on the Status tab. This will give IP
>> configuration coming from the Ariss to Linksys.
>>
>> Under Status, you should see Router | Local Network | Wireless
>>
>> Click on Local Network and click on the DHCP Clients Table button for
>> the
>> other devices... assuming the menu is similar to the Linksys WRT54G I
>> am
>> using.
>
> smlunatick;4645479 Wrote:
Quote:

>>
>>
>> Please check the router's settings. Normally, it is possible to set
>> the wireless "connections" to be "separate" from the other
>> connections. On standard firmwares, this cam be known as "Wlan
>> Protection."
>
> Hi!
>
> Sorry but there's something that just occured to me which I forgot to
> mention before. I doubt it matters though?
>
> I have a Desktop PC (Dell Dim 4400) attached via Ethernet to the
> router.
>
> It Uses an old 3com EtherLink card.
>
> My router is set to clone the MAC addrees of that PC. (Due to an old
> regulation of my ISP: allowing only one computer to be attached to the
> modem).
>
You shouldn't be using cloned MAC address if you don't have to.

Take it off, in fact you might want to try resetting the router to factory
defaults.

Some setting on the router is causing traffic to reach the cable-modem.

Did you setup the router manually?

With the WRT54G I have, the local area network would be on 192.168.1.x
subnet and if I had a cable-modem it might be on a separate subnet like
192.168.0.x. The traffic on subnet 192.168.1.x shouldn't show up on
192.168.0.x which is subnet the cable-modem would be on, since the laptop is
on 192.168.1.6 going to 192.168.1.13 the traffic should only exist on the
192.168.1.x subnet.

There might be two IP addresses assigned to the cable-modem and Linksys.

Cable - modem Linksys
ISP --- 80.108.170.23 | 192.168.0.1 --- 192.168.0.2 | 192.168.1.1 --- Home
LAN

Quote:

> The 2 other Laptops connect wirelessly.
>
> Linksys: 192.168.1.1 static
> Dell Desktop PC: 192.168.1.2 static
> MY Laptop: 192.168.1.6 static
> MetworkSpace: 192.168.1.13 static
>
> WAN IP (Arris?): 80.108.170.23
>
>
> Some additional info:
>
> Under Status | Wireless:
>
> TX Power is 50mW
>
> and under Wireless Packet Info:
>
> Transmitted (TX): a big number around 56..... OK, 334 errors.
>
> Is that normal?
>
> THX
>
Doesn't sound normal, unless you are using one of the wireless on the fringe
of the router's signal range.

Are you using any wireless security, WEP or WAP?

Maybe someone or something is connecting from the edge of the Linksys'
range.
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