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Help with Remote Assistance
  1. #1


    Blue Max Guest

    Help with Remote Assistance

    We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have some
    senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but we cannot
    connect. Here is a little background:

    FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an invitation
    and password, not within a local network.

    SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of the
    computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop, then
    why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same communications
    protocols?



    THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger. However,
    if we choose the remote assistance option with the same contact, we cannot
    connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in that one contact
    successfully sends a request and the other accepts the request, but the
    connection always times out or fails. The dialog suggests that the other
    user may have closed the Remote Assistance session, but they have not.

    FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe have
    to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have even
    tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have allowed
    remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the Windows firewall
    is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?

    We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    Assistance, we would welcome your help!


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  2. #2


    Bobby Johnson Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    Are all the computers running Windows 7 64-bit, Vista 64-bit, Windows XP
    x64, or what?


    On 2010-03-12 12:07, Blue Max wrote:

    > We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have
    > some senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but
    > we cannot connect. Here is a little background:
    >
    > FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an
    > invitation and password, not within a local network.
    >
    > SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of
    > the computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop,
    > then why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same
    > communications protocols?
    >
    > THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger.
    > However, if we choose the remote assistance option with the same
    > contact, we cannot connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in
    > that one contact successfully sends a request and the other accepts the
    > request, but the connection always times out or fails. The dialog
    > suggests that the other user may have closed the Remote Assistance
    > session, but they have not.
    >
    > FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    > many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe
    > have to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have
    > even tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have
    > allowed remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the
    > Windows firewall is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?
    >
    > We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    > Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    > novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    > successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    > builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    > Assistance, we would welcome your help!

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Ed. Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    I no longer mess with Remote Assistant. I now use TeamViewer. It's free
    and much better. I don't install it nor have the other person install it.
    During Setup we just click on run and not install. Have the other person
    give the IP address it shows on their end and the password for you put in
    your end and BINGO.

    Take a look at teamviewer.com


    "Blue Max" <mailrichard@newsgroup> wrote in message
    newsBDB5D34-114C-4169-A959-B12A02D10B89@newsgroup

    > We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have
    > some senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but we
    > cannot connect. Here is a little background:
    >
    > FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an invitation
    > and password, not within a local network.
    >
    > SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of
    > the computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop,
    > then why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same communications
    > protocols?
    >
    > THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger.
    > However, if we choose the remote assistance option with the same contact,
    > we cannot connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in that one
    > contact successfully sends a request and the other accepts the request,
    > but the connection always times out or fails. The dialog suggests that
    > the other user may have closed the Remote Assistance session, but they
    > have not.
    >
    > FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    > many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe
    > have to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have
    > even tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have
    > allowed remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the
    > Windows firewall is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?
    >
    > We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    > Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    > novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    > successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    > builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    > Assistance, we would welcome your help!

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    Jack [MVP-Networking] Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    Hi
    TeamViewer is actually a subset of UltraVNC.
    The difference is that UltraVNC being stand-alone needs to be set with port
    opening on the Host side.
    TeamViewer bypasses the issue by using their own Server as an intermediary.
    I.e., like Logmein and others someone else mitigates your traffic.
    Remote Desktop/Assistance, and regular UltraVNC are direct connections with
    No 3rd party intervention.
    My approach is. If someone can set the system on the other side, I would go
    with the Direct approach (Remote Desktop/Assistance, or regular UltraVNC).
    Otherwise, I default to TeamViwer or logmein. Whichever seems to be more
    suitable to the issue at hand.
    Control wise, straight UltraVNC provides the highest level of control.
    http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
    http://www.ezlan.net/myip.html
    Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).


    "Ed." <Ed@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:eytoRBmwKHA.5340@newsgroup

    >I no longer mess with Remote Assistant. I now use TeamViewer. It's free
    >and much better. I don't install it nor have the other person install it.
    >During Setup we just click on run and not install. Have the other person
    >give the IP address it shows on their end and the password for you put in
    >your end and BINGO.
    >
    > Take a look at teamviewer.com
    >
    >
    > "Blue Max" <mailrichard@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > newsBDB5D34-114C-4169-A959-B12A02D10B89@newsgroup

    >> We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have
    >> some senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but
    >> we cannot connect. Here is a little background:
    >>
    >> FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an invitation
    >> and password, not within a local network.
    >>
    >> SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of
    >> the computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop,
    >> then why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same
    >> communications protocols?
    >>
    >> THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger.
    >> However, if we choose the remote assistance option with the same contact,
    >> we cannot connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in that one
    >> contact successfully sends a request and the other accepts the request,
    >> but the connection always times out or fails. The dialog suggests that
    >> the other user may have closed the Remote Assistance session, but they
    >> have not.
    >>
    >> FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    >> many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe
    >> have to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have
    >> even tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have
    >> allowed remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the
    >> Windows firewall is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?
    >>
    >> We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    >> Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    >> novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    >> successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    >> builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    >> Assistance, we would welcome your help!
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Blue Max Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    Sorry, I forgot to include this essential information. Over the years we
    have tried all these versions of Windows. However, more recently we are
    trying to make the connection between computers running Windows 7
    Professional (64-bit), Windows Vista Ultimate (64-bit), and Windows Vista
    Home.

    Thanks,

    Richard

    ********************
    "Bobby Johnson" <rjohnson@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:O4Pk$ThwKHA.1984@newsgroup

    > Are all the computers running Windows 7 64-bit, Vista 64-bit, Windows XP
    > x64, or what?
    >
    >
    > On 2010-03-12 12:07, Blue Max wrote:

    >> We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have
    >> some senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but
    >> we cannot connect. Here is a little background:
    >>
    >> FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an
    >> invitation and password, not within a local network.
    >>
    >> SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of
    >> the computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop,
    >> then why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same
    >> communications protocols?
    >>
    >> THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger.
    >> However, if we choose the remote assistance option with the same
    >> contact, we cannot connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in
    >> that one contact successfully sends a request and the other accepts the
    >> request, but the connection always times out or fails. The dialog
    >> suggests that the other user may have closed the Remote Assistance
    >> session, but they have not.
    >>
    >> FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    >> many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe
    >> have to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have
    >> even tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have
    >> allowed remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the
    >> Windows firewall is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?
    >>
    >> We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    >> Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    >> novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    >> successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    >> builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    >> Assistance, we would welcome your help!

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6



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    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    I use Remote Office Manager try it
    it is include RDP

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  7. #7


    Samuel A Mungujakisa Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    Hi Max,
    Remote Desktop uses port 3389 to connect, while you have to permit Remote
    Assistance, and even the one in Windows Live messenger, to get through the
    Internet. In your Firewall, look under "Exceptions" and you'll see three
    distinct srevices to enable, as follows:
    -RemoteAssistance,
    -Remote Assistance - Windows Messenger and Voice
    -Remote Desktop.
    I hope this helps

    Samuel.

    "Blue Max" <mailrichard@newsgroup> wrote in message
    newsBDB5D34-114C-4169-A959-B12A02D10B89@newsgroup

    > We seriously need help making a Remote Assistance connection. We have
    > some senior family members who really need our constant assistance, but we
    > cannot connect. Here is a little background:
    >
    > FIRST, the connection is being made over the internet, with an invitation
    > and password, not within a local network.
    >
    > SECOND, we can successfully make a Remote Desktop connection to each of
    > the computers involved. If we can successfully configure Remote Desktop,
    > then why not Remote Assistance, which uses some of the same communications
    > protocols?
    >
    > THIRD, we can succesfully communicate with Windows Live Messenger.
    > However, if we choose the remote assistance option with the same contact,
    > we cannot connect. Ironically, the connection appears solid in that one
    > contact successfully sends a request and the other accepts the request,
    > but the connection always times out or fails. The dialog suggests that
    > the other user may have closed the Remote Assistance session, but they
    > have not.
    >
    > FOURTH, could this be a subtle firewall issue since we can connect in so
    > many other similar ways, but not with Remote Assistance? Does MSRA.exe
    > have to be allowed through the third-party firewalls? It seems we have
    > even tried this before without much success. I imagine, if we have
    > allowed remote assistance in the 'Remote Settings' dialog, that the
    > Windows firewall is properly configured to run MSRA.exe, correct?
    >
    > We would really appreciate some advanced help in resolving this problem!
    > Remote Assistance is promoted as the friendly lifeline for even the most
    > novice users. Yet, as an advanced user, we have only made one or two
    > successful connections over the last 4 years - not a real confidence
    > builder. If you have any advanced knowledge on configuring Remote
    > Assistance, we would welcome your help!

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #8


    Falcon ITS Guest

    Re: Help with Remote Assistance

    Hello,

    Make you life easy... Why not install LogMeIn on the family member
    computers?

    http://www.logmein.com


    Miguel
    Falcon ITS
    http://www.falconits.com
    http://www.falconits.net


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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