I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am unable
to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a NIC or
Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that use
diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network

When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.

From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs TCP/IP
differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.

If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have to
change my backbone in order to install VISTA



I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP

Err.... tcp/ip is tcp/ip if standards are followed.

My bet is that you didnt remove the tick from IPv6 and it is stuffing you
up.


"Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D1C699E-2F23-4BA1-A67A-FB12D0911F89@microsoft.com...
>I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am
>unable
> to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a NIC
> or
> Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that
> use
> diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network
>
> When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.
>
> From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
> routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs TCP/IP
> differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.
>
> If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have to
> change my backbone in order to install VISTA
>
> I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
> request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP
>
>

You'll need to be more specific.

In the office, I have several Vista workstations that get their IP
configuration via DHCP. The DHCP server is "centralized" and is in a
different subnet - there are three routers between the Vista workstations
and the DHCP server (the local one plus two others in the path). I think
all of the routers are Cisco, but I don't know what model etc. (someone else
looks after the WAN). There were no changes made to the "backbone" to
"support Vista".

This all worked "out of the box" - no special action was required on the
Vista computers (no need to disable IPv6 as someone suggested).


--
Bruce Sanderson MVP
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/
It's perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.


"Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D1C699E-2F23-4BA1-A67A-FB12D0911F89@microsoft.com...
>I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am
>unable
> to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a NIC
> or
> Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that
> use
> diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network
>
> When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.
>
> From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
> routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs TCP/IP
> differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.
>
> If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have to
> change my backbone in order to install VISTA
>
> I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
> request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP
>
>

if you setup static IP, can you access ping DHCP or other servers?

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3D1C699E-2F23-4BA1-A67A-FB12D0911F89@microsoft.com...
I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am unable
to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a NIC or
Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that use
diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network

When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.

From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs TCP/IP
differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.

If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have to
change my backbone in order to install VISTA

I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP

From my vista box, I connect to a nortel switch (not sure of model). I then
go via fibre over a vlan to another building and connect to another nortel
switch. From there I connect to a Novell Zenworks DHCP server. I can see from
the DHCP server that it is discovering the PC, and the handshakes are going
well, and i even see and ACK when I run a packet sniffer, but the PC never
gets an IP. All I get in my event log is and error that "The object already
exsists".



"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

> You'll need to be more specific.
>
> In the office, I have several Vista workstations that get their IP
> configuration via DHCP. The DHCP server is "centralized" and is in a
> different subnet - there are three routers between the Vista workstations
> and the DHCP server (the local one plus two others in the path). I think
> all of the routers are Cisco, but I don't know what model etc. (someone else
> looks after the WAN). There were no changes made to the "backbone" to
> "support Vista".
>
> This all worked "out of the box" - no special action was required on the
> Vista computers (no need to disable IPv6 as someone suggested).
>
>
> --
> Bruce Sanderson MVP
> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/
> It's perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
>
> "Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3D1C699E-2F23-4BA1-A67A-FB12D0911F89@microsoft.com...
> >I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am
> >unable
> > to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a NIC
> > or
> > Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that
> > use
> > diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network
> >
> > When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.
> >
> > From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
> > routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs TCP/IP
> > differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.
> >
> > If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have to
> > change my backbone in order to install VISTA
> >
> > I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
> > request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP
> >
> >
>
>
>

You've probably already tried this, but I'd go to a command prompt and do an
IPCONFIG /RELEASE and then reboot the machine. Hopefully, when it came up
it would get the new address.




"Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news8F4D159-1D7D-47C8-8F02-D03A2FECC235@microsoft.com...
> From my vista box, I connect to a nortel switch (not sure of model). I
> then
> go via fibre over a vlan to another building and connect to another nortel
> switch. From there I connect to a Novell Zenworks DHCP server. I can see
> from
> the DHCP server that it is discovering the PC, and the handshakes are
> going
> well, and i even see and ACK when I run a packet sniffer, but the PC never
> gets an IP. All I get in my event log is and error that "The object
> already
> exsists".
>
>
>
> "Bruce Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> You'll need to be more specific.
>>
>> In the office, I have several Vista workstations that get their IP
>> configuration via DHCP. The DHCP server is "centralized" and is in a
>> different subnet - there are three routers between the Vista
>> workstations
>> and the DHCP server (the local one plus two others in the path). I think
>> all of the routers are Cisco, but I don't know what model etc. (someone
>> else
>> looks after the WAN). There were no changes made to the "backbone" to
>> "support Vista".
>>
>> This all worked "out of the box" - no special action was required on the
>> Vista computers (no need to disable IPv6 as someone suggested).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Sanderson MVP
>> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/
>> It's perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>>
>>
>> "Red Deer Techy" <RedDeerTechy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:3D1C699E-2F23-4BA1-A67A-FB12D0911F89@microsoft.com...
>> >I have my Windows Vista business connected to my network at work. I am
>> >unable
>> > to get an IP other than 169.XXX.... I thought at first it maybe was a
>> > NIC
>> > or
>> > Hardware problem, so I tried installing VISTA on two seperate PC's that
>> > use
>> > diifferent NICS. XP works correctly on my network
>> >
>> > When I connect vista to a cable modem it works fine.
>> >
>> > From what I have read so far, I believe it is a problem with one of the
>> > routers on my network backbone. I have read that Windows Vista runs
>> > TCP/IP
>> > differently than XP. Am I right in guessing this.
>> >
>> > If I am right I am....How do I fix this. I don't believe I should have
>> > to
>> > change my backbone in order to install VISTA
>> >
>> > I have run a packet sniffer and I can see the discovery, the offer, the
>> > request and the ack, but vista never gets the IP. HELP
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>