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Problems Accessing Vista Shared Folders from Win98 Using NTLMv2
  1. #1


    Steve Winograd [MVP] Guest

    Problems Accessing Vista Shared Folders from Win98 Using NTLMv2

    I've found two ways to try to let Win98 access Vista's shared folders
    over a network, and neither of them is working:

    The first is to enable LM and NTLM authentication on Vista by running
    secpol.msc. That method hasn't worked for me, so I've disabled LM and
    NTLM on Vista and set it back to NTLMv2 only.

    I'm trying a second method, described in Microsoft KB article 288358,
    to download, install, and un-install the Directory Services Client on
    Win98SE. That part went successfully.

    Now, when I access Vista Ultimate from 98SE, a window opens showing
    Vista's shared folders. That means that 98SE is successfully
    connecting to Vista using NTLMv2 authentication. However, I'm having
    trouble browsing the Vista shared folders that are visible:

    1. Some folders don't show all of the files that are in them.

    2. Some folder names are truncated. For example, a folder named
    Download appears as just D.

    3. Access to individual files hangs, or it fails with a message saying
    "The specified network resource or device is no longer available."

    Does anyone know what the problem is? Is it possible to access
    Vista's shared folders, and the files they contain, from 98SE using
    NTLMv2 authentication?
    --
    Thanks,
    Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)



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  2. #2


    Rusty H Guest

    Re: Problems Accessing Vista Shared Folders from Win98 Using NTLMv2

    Steve, just a follow-up..... you helped me with the Win98 DSClient install a
    month or so ago.

    I bought a new laptop two weeks ago with VISTA Home Premium and today
    decided to try Win98 sharing with this laptop. To my surprise, it worked
    perfectly with none of the "partial directory" or "truncated file names"
    that we saw with VISTA Ultimate. I don't no why other than Ultimate has
    many group policy settings that are not in the Home version.


    "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcmaven@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:ft9tt21rkda0ire4ur48tjgdrn54epgb0e@4ax.com...
    > I've found two ways to try to let Win98 access Vista's shared folders
    > over a network, and neither of them is working:
    >
    > The first is to enable LM and NTLM authentication on Vista by running
    > secpol.msc. That method hasn't worked for me, so I've disabled LM and
    > NTLM on Vista and set it back to NTLMv2 only.
    >
    > I'm trying a second method, described in Microsoft KB article 288358,
    > to download, install, and un-install the Directory Services Client on
    > Win98SE. That part went successfully.
    >
    > Now, when I access Vista Ultimate from 98SE, a window opens showing
    > Vista's shared folders. That means that 98SE is successfully
    > connecting to Vista using NTLMv2 authentication. However, I'm having
    > trouble browsing the Vista shared folders that are visible:
    >
    > 1. Some folders don't show all of the files that are in them.
    >
    > 2. Some folder names are truncated. For example, a folder named
    > Download appears as just D.
    >
    > 3. Access to individual files hangs, or it fails with a message saying
    > "The specified network resource or device is no longer available."
    >
    > Does anyone know what the problem is? Is it possible to access
    > Vista's shared folders, and the files they contain, from 98SE using
    > NTLMv2 authentication?
    > --
    > Thanks,
    > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
    >
    > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com




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  3. #3


    Steve Winograd [MVP] Guest

    Re: Problems Accessing Vista Shared Folders from Win98 Using NTLMv2

    In article <OlwimrfXHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Rusty H"
    <blstthgREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> I've found two ways to try to let Win98 access Vista's shared folders
    >> over a network, and neither of them is working:
    >>
    >> The first is to enable LM and NTLM authentication on Vista by running
    >> secpol.msc. That method hasn't worked for me, so I've disabled LM and
    >> NTLM on Vista and set it back to NTLMv2 only.
    >>
    >> I'm trying a second method, described in Microsoft KB article 288358,
    >> to download, install, and un-install the Directory Services Client on
    >> Win98SE. That part went successfully.
    >>
    >> Now, when I access Vista Ultimate from 98SE, a window opens showing
    >> Vista's shared folders. That means that 98SE is successfully
    >> connecting to Vista using NTLMv2 authentication. However, I'm having
    >> trouble browsing the Vista shared folders that are visible:
    >>
    >> 1. Some folders don't show all of the files that are in them.
    >>
    >> 2. Some folder names are truncated. For example, a folder named
    >> Download appears as just D.
    >>
    >> 3. Access to individual files hangs, or it fails with a message saying
    >> "The specified network resource or device is no longer available."
    >>
    >> Does anyone know what the problem is? Is it possible to access
    >> Vista's shared folders, and the files they contain, from 98SE using
    >> NTLMv2 authentication?

    >
    >Steve, just a follow-up..... you helped me with the Win98 DSClient install a
    >month or so ago.
    >
    >I bought a new laptop two weeks ago with VISTA Home Premium and today
    >decided to try Win98 sharing with this laptop. To my surprise, it worked
    >perfectly with none of the "partial directory" or "truncated file names"
    >that we saw with VISTA Ultimate. I don't no why other than Ultimate has
    >many group policy settings that are not in the Home version.


    Thanks for the followup, Rusty. I just found your message.

    Is everything still working between Vista and Win98? I haven't been
    able to make it work consistently. I get the "partial directory" and
    "truncated file names" problems with Ultimate, and Win98 often hangs
    when trying to access Ultimate's shared folders. The problem seems to
    get worse as I go down through more levels of the folder tree.
    --
    Best Wishes,
    Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

    Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
    for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
    addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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  4. #4


    cotemart@gmail.com Guest

    Re: Problems Accessing Vista Shared Folders from Win98 Using NTLMv2



    HI there, just received a Vista desktop yesterday and I am having the
    exact same problem than yours (partial folders names, hidden files and
    specially the "hang-up" of Windows explorer) I tried with two laptops
    (Celeron 400) over the same D-Link router. Tried different settings on
    Vista, even desabling the Firewall but nothing works.

    I can't go on reverse (From Vista to 98SE) since I never managed to
    make a Win98SE computer visible on my network.

    Did you find any solutions yet?


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