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Old 06-11-2006   #1 (permalink)
Magyar Poster


 
 

Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems


I am having problems with one of my machines running Vista Beta 2 (5384).
Whenever I use DHCP to pick up an IP address, I get "limited or no
connectivity" and a spurious IP of e.g. 169.254.59.155. This occurs
irrespective of whether I connect via the built-in NIC (nForce 4 motherboard)
or a USB wireless adaptor.

The same build works fine via the same wireless LAN using DHCP on a laptop.

If I manually set the IP to a valid address, I can ping my router (on
10.0.0.1) but, even though I give it a valid DNS server, I can't resolve
FQDNs and can't web browse. Running the "Diagnose Internet Connection"
confirms that it's a DNS problem.

Any ideas, anyone?

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Old 06-11-2006   #2 (permalink)
gregom


 
 

RE: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.

I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I believe.

Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find my
network.

I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work fine.
Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
firewall... nothing.

I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
packets, but doesnt receive any.


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Old 06-12-2006   #3 (permalink)
Brave Belzebuth


 
 

RE: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

"gregom" wrote:

> I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
> anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
>
> I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I believe.
>
> Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find my
> network.
>
> I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work fine.
> Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
> firewall... nothing.
>
> I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
> packets, but doesnt receive any.
>
>


I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a new
network card.

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Old 06-12-2006   #4 (permalink)
Brave Belzebuth


 
 

RE: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems


I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a new
network card.

--
C/Cpp Programmer
..NET Programmer
C# Programmer
Java?? No thanks


"gregom" wrote:

> I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
> anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
>
> I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I believe.
>
> Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find my
> network.
>
> I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work fine.
> Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
> firewall... nothing.
>
> I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
> packets, but doesnt receive any.
>
>

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Old 06-12-2006   #5 (permalink)
Magyar Poster


 
 

RE: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

I can see why you'd think another NIC would help, but in my case it's clearly
not the card, since even connecting via a Wireless card produces the same
effect.

I think I might try reinstalling from scratch raher than an upgrade install
- must be a networking config issue.

The fact I can ping an Internet site but not resolve it proves there's
nothing wrong with the card.

"Brave Belzebuth" wrote:

>
> I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a new
> network card.
>
> --
> C/Cpp Programmer
> .NET Programmer
> C# Programmer
> Java?? No thanks
>
>
> "gregom" wrote:
>
> > I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
> > anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
> >
> > I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I believe.
> >
> > Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find my
> > network.
> >
> > I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work fine.
> > Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
> > firewall... nothing.
> >
> > I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
> > packets, but doesnt receive any.
> >
> >

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Old 06-12-2006   #6 (permalink)
Jane C


 
 

Re: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

Magyar, try manually adding your ISPs DNS servers to your preferred DNS
servers.

--
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Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
"Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:32846953-F400-4BB3-BBC1-20E83702A70B@microsoft.com...
>I can see why you'd think another NIC would help, but in my case it's
>clearly
> not the card, since even connecting via a Wireless card produces the same
> effect.
>
> I think I might try reinstalling from scratch raher than an upgrade
> install
> - must be a networking config issue.
>
> The fact I can ping an Internet site but not resolve it proves there's
> nothing wrong with the card.
>
> "Brave Belzebuth" wrote:
>
>>
>> I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a new
>> network card.
>>
>> --
>> C/Cpp Programmer
>> .NET Programmer
>> C# Programmer
>> Java?? No thanks
>>
>>
>> "gregom" wrote:
>>
>> > I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
>> > anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
>> >
>> > I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I
>> > believe.
>> >
>> > Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find
>> > my
>> > network.
>> >
>> > I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work
>> > fine.
>> > Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
>> > firewall... nothing.
>> >
>> > I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
>> > packets, but doesnt receive any.
>> >
>> >


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Old 06-12-2006   #7 (permalink)
Magyar Poster


 
 

Re: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

Jane
Tried that - that's the DNS server I said I could ping but not resolve from.
It's definitely working as a tried the same manual config on another machine
and it's fine. I've tried disabling all the non-critical networking like the
LAN topology stuff, but no avail.

"Jane C" wrote:

> Magyar, try manually adding your ISPs DNS servers to your preferred DNS
> servers.
>
> --
> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
> "Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:32846953-F400-4BB3-BBC1-20E83702A70B@microsoft.com...
> >I can see why you'd think another NIC would help, but in my case it's
> >clearly
> > not the card, since even connecting via a Wireless card produces the same
> > effect.
> >
> > I think I might try reinstalling from scratch raher than an upgrade
> > install
> > - must be a networking config issue.
> >
> > The fact I can ping an Internet site but not resolve it proves there's
> > nothing wrong with the card.
> >
> > "Brave Belzebuth" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a new
> >> network card.
> >>
> >> --
> >> C/Cpp Programmer
> >> .NET Programmer
> >> C# Programmer
> >> Java?? No thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> "gregom" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get me
> >> > anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
> >> >
> >> > I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I
> >> > believe.
> >> >
> >> > Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant find
> >> > my
> >> > network.
> >> >
> >> > I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work
> >> > fine.
> >> > Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off Windows
> >> > firewall... nothing.
> >> >
> >> > I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just sends
> >> > packets, but doesnt receive any.
> >> >
> >> >

>

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Old 06-12-2006   #8 (permalink)
Jane C


 
 

Re: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

The only other things that spring to mind are disabling any ipv6 and SPI if
your router has it.

--
Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
"Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news045D1A0-C62F-4133-80E6-33CA2F75D509@microsoft.com...
> Jane
> Tried that - that's the DNS server I said I could ping but not resolve
> from.
> It's definitely working as a tried the same manual config on another
> machine
> and it's fine. I've tried disabling all the non-critical networking like
> the
> LAN topology stuff, but no avail.
>
> "Jane C" wrote:
>
>> Magyar, try manually adding your ISPs DNS servers to your preferred DNS
>> servers.
>>
>> --
>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
>> "Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:32846953-F400-4BB3-BBC1-20E83702A70B@microsoft.com...
>> >I can see why you'd think another NIC would help, but in my case it's
>> >clearly
>> > not the card, since even connecting via a Wireless card produces the
>> > same
>> > effect.
>> >
>> > I think I might try reinstalling from scratch raher than an upgrade
>> > install
>> > - must be a networking config issue.
>> >
>> > The fact I can ping an Internet site but not resolve it proves there's
>> > nothing wrong with the card.
>> >
>> > "Brave Belzebuth" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a
>> >> new
>> >> network card.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> C/Cpp Programmer
>> >> .NET Programmer
>> >> C# Programmer
>> >> Java?? No thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "gregom" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get
>> >> > me
>> >> > anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I
>> >> > believe.
>> >> >
>> >> > Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant
>> >> > find
>> >> > my
>> >> > network.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work
>> >> > fine.
>> >> > Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > firewall... nothing.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just
>> >> > sends
>> >> > packets, but doesnt receive any.
>> >> >
>> >> >

>>


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Old 06-12-2006   #9 (permalink)
Magyar Poster


 
 

Re: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

I've already disabled IPv6 but as for SPI I suppose it might be - just
assumed that if one Vista machine (my laptop) can get a DHCP address OK then
there's nothing wrong with the router.

I have to say I'd never heard of SPI before today and had to look it up....

"Jane C" wrote:

> The only other things that spring to mind are disabling any ipv6 and SPI if
> your router has it.
>
> --
> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
> "Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news045D1A0-C62F-4133-80E6-33CA2F75D509@microsoft.com...
> > Jane
> > Tried that - that's the DNS server I said I could ping but not resolve
> > from.
> > It's definitely working as a tried the same manual config on another
> > machine
> > and it's fine. I've tried disabling all the non-critical networking like
> > the
> > LAN topology stuff, but no avail.
> >
> > "Jane C" wrote:
> >
> >> Magyar, try manually adding your ISPs DNS servers to your preferred DNS
> >> servers.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
> >> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
> >> "Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:32846953-F400-4BB3-BBC1-20E83702A70B@microsoft.com...
> >> >I can see why you'd think another NIC would help, but in my case it's
> >> >clearly
> >> > not the card, since even connecting via a Wireless card produces the
> >> > same
> >> > effect.
> >> >
> >> > I think I might try reinstalling from scratch raher than an upgrade
> >> > install
> >> > - must be a networking config issue.
> >> >
> >> > The fact I can ping an Internet site but not resolve it proves there's
> >> > nothing wrong with the card.
> >> >
> >> > "Brave Belzebuth" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I have the same problem using NVIDIA nForce3, I think that I'll buy a
> >> >> new
> >> >> network card.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> C/Cpp Programmer
> >> >> .NET Programmer
> >> >> C# Programmer
> >> >> Java?? No thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "gregom" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm having a similar problem... but even setting an IP doesnt get
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > anywhere. I am receving 0 packets, no matter what I try.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm using a BioStar iDeq 200N that comes with nVidia 2 chipset I
> >> >> > believe.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vista detected the card fine, and says its working... It just cant
> >> >> > find
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > network.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm using a Netgear WGR614 v4 router and all my other computers work
> >> >> > fine.
> >> >> > Never had a problem like this before. I even tried turning off
> >> >> > Windows
> >> >> > firewall... nothing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can't see other comptuers on the network or anything, it just
> >> >> > sends
> >> >> > packets, but doesnt receive any.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>

>

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Old 06-12-2006   #10 (permalink)
Jan Wynen


 
 

Re: Vista 5384 networking/DNS problems

I had this to, but I have searched for the problem and it was not Windows
Vista, but my router. I have installed the newest firmware and it worked.
Maybe it's also the problem with you.

Greetz
Jan

"Magyar Poster" <MagyarPoster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C5EFAEE8-98D4-46D2-BB44-D0B9025498B5@microsoft.com...
>
> I am having problems with one of my machines running Vista Beta 2 (5384).
> Whenever I use DHCP to pick up an IP address, I get "limited or no
> connectivity" and a spurious IP of e.g. 169.254.59.155. This occurs
> irrespective of whether I connect via the built-in NIC (nForce 4
> motherboard)
> or a USB wireless adaptor.
>
> The same build works fine via the same wireless LAN using DHCP on a
> laptop.
>
> If I manually set the IP to a valid address, I can ping my router (on
> 10.0.0.1) but, even though I give it a valid DNS server, I can't resolve
> FQDNs and can't web browse. Running the "Diagnose Internet Connection"
> confirms that it's a DNS problem.
>
> Any ideas, anyone?


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