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Old 04-05-2007   #1 (permalink)
delta_J


 
 

cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

I recently updated the driver of my wireless card. Under Network Adapters in
Device Manager, Vista is now referring to it as: its name followed by "#2".

I was wondering how I could get rid of that "#2" since it's still the same
card. XP had a rename function in the properties menu, but Vista does not. In
the configuration window for the card, under the details tab, it's name is
listed with the "#2" under Friendly Name, yet I can't change it from there
either.

Cheers,
Delta_J

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Old 04-06-2007   #2 (permalink)
Joe Guidera


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Try clicking on the adapter and then hitting F2.

Joe

"delta_J" <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5FF18D8E-6BE2-47CF-B90E-C23ECE89FECC@microsoft.com...
>I recently updated the driver of my wireless card. Under Network Adapters
>in
> Device Manager, Vista is now referring to it as: its name followed by
> "#2".
>
> I was wondering how I could get rid of that "#2" since it's still the same
> card. XP had a rename function in the properties menu, but Vista does not.
> In
> the configuration window for the card, under the details tab, it's name is
> listed with the "#2" under Friendly Name, yet I can't change it from there
> either.
>
> Cheers,
> Delta_J


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Old 04-06-2007   #3 (permalink)
delta_J


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Thanks for your input, Joe, but I feel that I must remind you that I have
Vista installed, not XP. Hitting F2 doesn't do a thing. I believe I have
already stated that the usual rename function was present in XP but for some
reason has been taken out of Vista.

I am talking about the "friendly name" of the adapter in Device Manager, not
Network Connections, as that was easy to fix by renaming a couple registry
entries.

Perhaps someone knows what registry value to change? I am well aware of the
risks of messing around in the registry in case an MVP feels reluctant to
offer any instructions on doing so.

But thanks anyway, Joe.

Cheers,
Delta_J

"Joe Guidera" wrote:

> Try clicking on the adapter and then hitting F2.
>
> Joe
>
> "delta_J" <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5FF18D8E-6BE2-47CF-B90E-C23ECE89FECC@microsoft.com...
> >I recently updated the driver of my wireless card. Under Network Adapters
> >in
> > Device Manager, Vista is now referring to it as: its name followed by
> > "#2".
> >
> > I was wondering how I could get rid of that "#2" since it's still the same
> > card. XP had a rename function in the properties menu, but Vista does not.
> > In
> > the configuration window for the card, under the details tab, it's name is
> > listed with the "#2" under Friendly Name, yet I can't change it from there
> > either.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Delta_J

>

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Old 04-07-2007   #4 (permalink)
Joe Guidera


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Hmm. In Vista ultimate if you open network and sharing center, click on
Manage Network Connections, click on the network adapter (once) and hit the
F2 key it allows you to change it's name.

Joe

"delta_J" <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:386211EC-DE0C-4DA4-8068-64849F5F9AF5@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your input, Joe, but I feel that I must remind you that I have
> Vista installed, not XP. Hitting F2 doesn't do a thing. I believe I have
> already stated that the usual rename function was present in XP but for
> some
> reason has been taken out of Vista.
>
> I am talking about the "friendly name" of the adapter in Device Manager,
> not
> Network Connections, as that was easy to fix by renaming a couple registry
> entries.
>
> Perhaps someone knows what registry value to change? I am well aware of
> the
> risks of messing around in the registry in case an MVP feels reluctant to
> offer any instructions on doing so.
>
> But thanks anyway, Joe.
>
> Cheers,
> Delta_J
>
> "Joe Guidera" wrote:
>
>> Try clicking on the adapter and then hitting F2.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "delta_J" <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5FF18D8E-6BE2-47CF-B90E-C23ECE89FECC@microsoft.com...
>> >I recently updated the driver of my wireless card. Under Network
>> >Adapters
>> >in
>> > Device Manager, Vista is now referring to it as: its name followed by
>> > "#2".
>> >
>> > I was wondering how I could get rid of that "#2" since it's still the
>> > same
>> > card. XP had a rename function in the properties menu, but Vista does
>> > not.
>> > In
>> > the configuration window for the card, under the details tab, it's name
>> > is
>> > listed with the "#2" under Friendly Name, yet I can't change it from
>> > there
>> > either.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Delta_J

>>

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Old 04-07-2007   #5 (permalink)
Steve Winograd [MVP]


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

In article <900EC11C-E4B3-4E03-A921-3FC403DE00F4@microsoft.com>, "Joe
Guidera" <jguidera@remove.msn.com> wrote:
>Hmm. In Vista ultimate if you open network and sharing center, click on
>Manage Network Connections, click on the network adapter (once) and hit the
>F2 key it allows you to change it's name.
>
>Joe


That changes the name of the network connection that uses the network
adapter. It doesn't change the name of the network adapter itself.

To see what network adapter a network connection uses, right-click the
network connection, click Properties, and look in the "Connect using"
box. For example, my "Local Area Connection" network connection uses
the "CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter" network adapter.

Device Manager shows the network adapter name, not the network
connection name.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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Old 04-08-2007   #6 (permalink)
Joe Guidera


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Yep. I assumed he wanted to change the name of the connection. I.e.
instead of it saying "Local area connection #2" he wants it to say "Local
Area Connection".

Joe

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcmaven@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u7fg135i3imj9ta0jm6rtbmllknavbql5a@4ax.com...
> In article <900EC11C-E4B3-4E03-A921-3FC403DE00F4@microsoft.com>, "Joe
> Guidera" <jguidera@remove.msn.com> wrote:
>>Hmm. In Vista ultimate if you open network and sharing center, click on
>>Manage Network Connections, click on the network adapter (once) and hit
>>the
>>F2 key it allows you to change it's name.
>>
>>Joe

>
> That changes the name of the network connection that uses the network
> adapter. It doesn't change the name of the network adapter itself.
>
> To see what network adapter a network connection uses, right-click the
> network connection, click Properties, and look in the "Connect using"
> box. For example, my "Local Area Connection" network connection uses
> the "CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter" network adapter.
>
> Device Manager shows the network adapter name, not the network
> connection name.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


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Old 04-08-2007   #7 (permalink)
delta_J


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Thank you for your input, Steve, but I already know how to determine which
adapter Vista is using to establish the connection. As Joe said, my point is
that I'd like to be able to change the number following the name of the
adapter as recognized by Vista. This is purely out of curiosity on how to
keep the interface clean. I'm having no problems connecting to my intended
network.

To be honest, I don't really see why Windows, no matter which version, keeps
adding numbers to the names of the devices it recognizes. It added the #2
after I updated the driver, which seems odd since it's the same device and I
did not uninstall the old driver prior to the update.

Let me know,
Delta_J

"Joe Guidera" wrote:

> Yep. I assumed he wanted to change the name of the connection. I.e.
> instead of it saying "Local area connection #2" he wants it to say "Local
> Area Connection".
>
> Joe
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcmaven@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:u7fg135i3imj9ta0jm6rtbmllknavbql5a@4ax.com...
> > In article <900EC11C-E4B3-4E03-A921-3FC403DE00F4@microsoft.com>, "Joe
> > Guidera" <jguidera@remove.msn.com> wrote:
> >>Hmm. In Vista ultimate if you open network and sharing center, click on
> >>Manage Network Connections, click on the network adapter (once) and hit
> >>the
> >>F2 key it allows you to change it's name.
> >>
> >>Joe

> >
> > That changes the name of the network connection that uses the network
> > adapter. It doesn't change the name of the network adapter itself.
> >
> > To see what network adapter a network connection uses, right-click the
> > network connection, click Properties, and look in the "Connect using"
> > box. For example, my "Local Area Connection" network connection uses
> > the "CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter" network adapter.
> >
> > Device Manager shows the network adapter name, not the network
> > connection name.
> > --
> > Best Wishes,
> > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >
> > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >
> > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>

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Old 04-09-2007   #8 (permalink)
Steve Winograd [MVP]


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

In article <9DED8C71-B227-49D8-AA19-978DD1CA7858@microsoft.com>,
delta_J <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Thank you for your input, Steve, but I already know how to determine which
>adapter Vista is using to establish the connection. As Joe said, my point is
>that I'd like to be able to change the number following the name of the
>adapter as recognized by Vista. This is purely out of curiosity on how to
>keep the interface clean. I'm having no problems connecting to my intended
>network.
>
>To be honest, I don't really see why Windows, no matter which version, keeps
>adding numbers to the names of the devices it recognizes. It added the #2
>after I updated the driver, which seems odd since it's the same device and I
>did not uninstall the old driver prior to the update.
>
>Let me know,
>Delta_J


I know what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that what Joe
described was something different.

In the very first message that you posted, you said that XP has a
rename function for devices in the properties menu. I can't find that
function anywhere in XP's Device Manager. Please describe how to get
to it.

I've found a registry hack in XP that changes the name of a network
adapter in Device Manager. When I have more time, I'll see if it
works in Vista . . .
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-09-2007   #9 (permalink)
delta_J


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

Wait a minute, I think what I meant to say for XP at the start of this thread
is what Joe described. Sorry about the confusion. Naturally, Vista has the
same rename capability of the connection in Network Connections as XP: "Loca
Area Connection" vs. "Local Area Connection 2". I know of the registry hack
for when it gives the error that another network by that name is already
being used.

I'm glad you know what I'm finally talking about, Steve, but please feel
free to share the registry hack even before you had the time to try it
yourself. I know the risks of dabbling in the registry and don't worry, I
won't sue MS if I mess up my system

Cheers, sorry for not being clear initially.

Delta_J

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <9DED8C71-B227-49D8-AA19-978DD1CA7858@microsoft.com>,
> delta_J <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >Thank you for your input, Steve, but I already know how to determine which
> >adapter Vista is using to establish the connection. As Joe said, my point is
> >that I'd like to be able to change the number following the name of the
> >adapter as recognized by Vista. This is purely out of curiosity on how to
> >keep the interface clean. I'm having no problems connecting to my intended
> >network.
> >
> >To be honest, I don't really see why Windows, no matter which version, keeps
> >adding numbers to the names of the devices it recognizes. It added the #2
> >after I updated the driver, which seems odd since it's the same device and I
> >did not uninstall the old driver prior to the update.
> >
> >Let me know,
> >Delta_J

>
> I know what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that what Joe
> described was something different.
>
> In the very first message that you posted, you said that XP has a
> rename function for devices in the properties menu. I can't find that
> function anywhere in XP's Device Manager. Please describe how to get
> to it.
>
> I've found a registry hack in XP that changes the name of a network
> adapter in Device Manager. When I have more time, I'll see if it
> works in Vista . . .
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>

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Old 04-10-2007   #10 (permalink)
Steve Winograd [MVP]


 
 

Re: cannot rename network adapter in Device Manager

In article <940AB4A4-9F05-4950-85E5-A0CB773BE084@microsoft.com>,
delta_J <deltaJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> In the very first message that you posted, you said that XP has a
>> rename function for devices in the properties menu. I can't find that
>> function anywhere in XP's Device Manager. Please describe how to get
>> to it.
>>
>> I've found a registry hack in XP that changes the name of a network
>> adapter in Device Manager. When I have more time, I'll see if it
>> works in Vista . . .

>
>Wait a minute, I think what I meant to say for XP at the start of this thread
>is what Joe described. Sorry about the confusion. Naturally, Vista has the
>same rename capability of the connection in Network Connections as XP: "Loca
>Area Connection" vs. "Local Area Connection 2". I know of the registry hack
>for when it gives the error that another network by that name is already
>being used.
>
>I'm glad you know what I'm finally talking about, Steve, but please feel
>free to share the registry hack even before you had the time to try it
>yourself. I know the risks of dabbling in the registry and don't worry, I
>won't sue MS if I mess up my system
>
>Cheers, sorry for not being clear initially.
>
>Delta_J


OK, here's what I found in XP to rename a PCI or USB network adapter:

1. In Device Manager, go to the network adapter's Properties >
Details, and find the DeviceInstanceID (which Vista calls "Device
Instance Path").

2. In Regedit, open HLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI or
HLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB.

3. Open the subkey that corresponds to the DeviceInstanceID. You
might have to go down more than one level.

4. Modify the value of "DeviceDesc". You might have to right-click
the registry key and change the permissions to give yourself full
control.

I don't work for Microsoft, so promise that you won't sue me, either,
if you mess up your system. :-)

I can't get that to work in Vista. Even when I run Regedit as
Administrator and give Everyone full control, I get an error trying to
write the value's new contents.

I wonder if the reason you got "#2" in the network adapter name is
that something changed the NIC's Device Instance Path. There might be
more than one entry for the device under the PCI or USB key. If so,
here's something that might work (but I haven't tried it):

1. Start Vista in Safe mode with networking.

2. Open a command prompt window as Administrator.

3. Type these command lines:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot%\System32
start devmgmt.msc

4. In Device Manager, click View > "Show hidden devices".

5. If there are multiple instances of the NIC, remove all of them.

6. Reboot normally to reinstall the NIC.

What's the XP registry hack that you can use when another network
connection by that name is already being used?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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