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DHCP and Vista Firewall
  1. #1


    Wild Phantom Guest

    DHCP and Vista Firewall

    I recently bought a laptop with Windows Vista, and it just can't get DHCP
    adresses from my DHCP server. I tried Etheral, and the DHCP packets are
    running normally in the wire. Checked the Event Viewer, and it seeems like
    the problem is Vista Firewall. I keep getting this odd Audit Failure message:
    Windows Firewall could not notify user that it blocked inbound connection
    from application. Error Code 2.
    Weird thing is, the firewall service is disabled!

    Any ideas?



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  2. #2


    Chuck Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:24:01 -0700, Wild Phantom
    <WildPhantom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >I recently bought a laptop with Windows Vista, and it just can't get DHCP
    >adresses from my DHCP server. I tried Etheral, and the DHCP packets are
    >running normally in the wire. Checked the Event Viewer, and it seeems like
    >the problem is Vista Firewall. I keep getting this odd Audit Failure message:
    >Windows Firewall could not notify user that it blocked inbound connection
    >from application. Error Code 2.
    >Weird thing is, the firewall service is disabled!
    >
    >Any ideas?


    Enable the service. Under Windows XP, disabling the firewall service was known
    to cause it to fail open, ie, no traffic. That makes sense, as if the service
    failed closed and you could get malware to make the service crash, your computer
    would be wide open.

    If you don't want protection from the firewall (why not?) turn the firewall off.
    But leave the service running.

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.

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  3. #3


    Wild Phantom Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall


    I had tried all combinations with Vista Firewall and Network Settings
    (Private, Public, turning the firewall on and off, etc. etc..) Disabling the
    service was kind of "last chance".

    I found out what's going on after all. When I renewed the IP's on XP
    machines, they just sent DHCP REQUEST, and get ack by the DHCP server. VISTA
    sends a DHCP DISCOVER packet, that the DHCP server (it's a DLINK DSL-500G)
    seems to ignore. Without response, there's no DCHP REQUEST, and thus no IP
    from the server.

    I searched DLINK's website, and found no firmware upgrade for my modem. So:
    Is there a way to disable the "DHCP DISCOVER" on VISTA's TCP Stack? Or am I
    left to manually set IP's on VISTA machines?




    "Chuck" wrote:

    > Enable the service. Under Windows XP, disabling the firewall service was known
    > to cause it to fail open, ie, no traffic. That makes sense, as if the service
    > failed closed and you could get malware to make the service crash, your computer
    > would be wide open.
    >
    > If you don't want protection from the firewall (why not?) turn the firewall off.
    > But leave the service running.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers,
    > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    > My email is AT DOT
    > actual address pchuck mvps org.
    >


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  4. #4


    Chuck Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:38:01 -0700, Wild Phantom
    <WildPhantom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >"Chuck" wrote:
    >
    >> Enable the service. Under Windows XP, disabling the firewall service was known
    >> to cause it to fail open, ie, no traffic. That makes sense, as if the service
    >> failed closed and you could get malware to make the service crash, your computer
    >> would be wide open.
    >>
    >> If you don't want protection from the firewall (why not?) turn the firewall off.
    >> But leave the service running.


    >
    >I had tried all combinations with Vista Firewall and Network Settings
    >(Private, Public, turning the firewall on and off, etc. etc..) Disabling the
    >service was kind of "last chance".
    >
    >I found out what's going on after all. When I renewed the IP's on XP
    >machines, they just sent DHCP REQUEST, and get ack by the DHCP server. VISTA
    >sends a DHCP DISCOVER packet, that the DHCP server (it's a DLINK DSL-500G)
    >seems to ignore. Without response, there's no DCHP REQUEST, and thus no IP
    >from the server.
    >
    >I searched DLINK's website, and found no firmware upgrade for my modem. So:
    >Is there a way to disable the "DHCP DISCOVER" on VISTA's TCP Stack? Or am I
    >left to manually set IP's on VISTA machines?


    Is the Vista computer renewing its IP address, or getting one initially? I'll
    wager that the XP computers already have addresses, and are just looking to
    renew theirs. They don't need to do a discover.

    Does the DLink have a DHCP log? Find out why it's ignoring the DHCP request
    from the Vista computer. DHCP Discover is a fundamental process; I doubt that
    its ignoring those for no reason.

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.

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  5. #5


    RamaSubbu SK Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    Try the following
    Just Boot the machine into Windows XP and do ipconfig /release this will
    lease the IP address and then boot into vista.

    Thanks
    -RamaSubbu SK

    "Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
    news:b4f833dhb65gmk9dp4c5f6sohve3qoh50p@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:38:01 -0700, Wild Phantom
    > <WildPhantom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    >>"Chuck" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Enable the service. Under Windows XP, disabling the firewall service
    >>> was known
    >>> to cause it to fail open, ie, no traffic. That makes sense, as if the
    >>> service
    >>> failed closed and you could get malware to make the service crash, your
    >>> computer
    >>> would be wide open.
    >>>
    >>> If you don't want protection from the firewall (why not?) turn the
    >>> firewall off.
    >>> But leave the service running.

    >
    >>
    >>I had tried all combinations with Vista Firewall and Network Settings
    >>(Private, Public, turning the firewall on and off, etc. etc..) Disabling
    >>the
    >>service was kind of "last chance".
    >>
    >>I found out what's going on after all. When I renewed the IP's on XP
    >>machines, they just sent DHCP REQUEST, and get ack by the DHCP server.
    >>VISTA
    >>sends a DHCP DISCOVER packet, that the DHCP server (it's a DLINK DSL-500G)
    >>seems to ignore. Without response, there's no DCHP REQUEST, and thus no IP
    >>from the server.
    >>
    >>I searched DLINK's website, and found no firmware upgrade for my modem.
    >>So:
    >>Is there a way to disable the "DHCP DISCOVER" on VISTA's TCP Stack? Or am
    >>I
    >>left to manually set IP's on VISTA machines?

    >
    > Is the Vista computer renewing its IP address, or getting one initially?
    > I'll
    > wager that the XP computers already have addresses, and are just looking
    > to
    > renew theirs. They don't need to do a discover.
    >
    > Does the DLink have a DHCP log? Find out why it's ignoring the DHCP
    > request
    > from the Vista computer. DHCP Discover is a fundamental process; I doubt
    > that
    > its ignoring those for no reason.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers,
    > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    > My email is AT DOT
    > actual address pchuck mvps org.



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  6. #6


    Wild Phantom Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    Thanks for the help, Chuck and RamaSubbu.

    Yeah, I was wrong, XP machines did not send DISCOVER packets because they
    were only renewing. After /Release, I had the discover packets on the wire.

    Turned out the problem was on the DHCP server. For some odd reason, it was
    completely ignoring the VISTA discovery packets, but responding to the XP
    packets. I tried resetting the server (turning it off and back on), change
    the pool addresses, disable DLINK's firewall, all without success.

    Later, I disabled the DHCP service, deleted both DHCP pools (there's one
    pool for the wired network and another for the wireless), restarted the
    server and re-created them with different address sets. Now everything is
    working just fine.


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  7. #7


    Chuck Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:32:02 -0700, Wild Phantom
    <WildPhantom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >Thanks for the help, Chuck and RamaSubbu.
    >
    >Yeah, I was wrong, XP machines did not send DISCOVER packets because they
    >were only renewing. After /Release, I had the discover packets on the wire.
    >
    >Turned out the problem was on the DHCP server. For some odd reason, it was
    >completely ignoring the VISTA discovery packets, but responding to the XP
    >packets. I tried resetting the server (turning it off and back on), change
    >the pool addresses, disable DLINK's firewall, all without success.
    >
    >Later, I disabled the DHCP service, deleted both DHCP pools (there's one
    >pool for the wired network and another for the wireless), restarted the
    >server and re-created them with different address sets. Now everything is
    >working just fine.


    Well, we're glad to have provided part of the solution. And thanks for updating
    the thread.

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.

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  8. #8


    Joe Guidera Guest

    Re: DHCP and Vista Firewall

    The way that Windows performs DHCP has changed in Vista. See if the
    following resolves your issue.

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233

    Joe

    "Wild Phantom" <WildPhantom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:C09761DC-BBD9-42C6-B074-75F2ECC47050@microsoft.com...
    >
    > I had tried all combinations with Vista Firewall and Network Settings
    > (Private, Public, turning the firewall on and off, etc. etc..) Disabling
    > the
    > service was kind of "last chance".
    >
    > I found out what's going on after all. When I renewed the IP's on XP
    > machines, they just sent DHCP REQUEST, and get ack by the DHCP server.
    > VISTA
    > sends a DHCP DISCOVER packet, that the DHCP server (it's a DLINK DSL-500G)
    > seems to ignore. Without response, there's no DCHP REQUEST, and thus no IP
    > from the server.
    >
    > I searched DLINK's website, and found no firmware upgrade for my modem.
    > So:
    > Is there a way to disable the "DHCP DISCOVER" on VISTA's TCP Stack? Or am
    > I
    > left to manually set IP's on VISTA machines?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Chuck" wrote:
    >
    >> Enable the service. Under Windows XP, disabling the firewall service was
    >> known
    >> to cause it to fail open, ie, no traffic. That makes sense, as if the
    >> service
    >> failed closed and you could get malware to make the service crash, your
    >> computer
    >> would be wide open.
    >>
    >> If you don't want protection from the firewall (why not?) turn the
    >> firewall off.
    >> But leave the service running.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Cheers,
    >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
    >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    >> My email is AT DOT
    >> actual address pchuck mvps org.
    >>


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