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Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives

  1. #11


    Travis Guest

    Re: Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives


    Phill:

    Although my Western Digital MyBook World Edition is formatted in NTFS I
    and (many, many) other folks are experiencing the exact same trauma as
    you are trying to access it, particularly with the new Vista Backup
    program.

    I have attempted most, but not all, of the fixes mentioned by Kerry,
    but to no avail.

    The "Receive Window Auto Tuning" thing is a new one on me, which I'm a
    bit dubious about, but at this point I'll try anything.

    The fact that no less than 5 of my clients, all with NAS drives which
    worked flawlessly under XP Professional, now have the same nightmare to
    deal with proves that something is Rotten in Denmark (or Redmond, as the
    case may be).

    I'm usually not a chronic complainer and I don't mind doing hours or
    research on a problem with Vista if it eventually bears fruit, but in
    this instance I (and seemingly everybody else) have simply hit a brick
    wall, which means in this case the problem is definitely not "BTKATC"
    (Between The Keyboard And The Chair).

    Whether these drives run on Samba 1.0 or 3.0 Microsoft is obligated to
    provide some sort of backward compatibility with them; expecting Western
    Digital, Seagate, Buffalo, or Iomega to update the operating systems on
    what was probably a fairly inexpensive drive to begin with is probably
    not going to happen. The fact that they all worked just fine under XP
    proves that it can't be too great a leap for MS to keep them in the
    "technology loop" for Vista as well.

    Accordingly I don't think it's too much to ask that some real, live
    Microsoft employees "get with the program" and give us some much-needed
    and well-deserved tech support; I mean, it's not like we haven't tried
    to help ourselves at this point.

    Well, here's hoping, anyway...


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  3. #12


    Gunrunnerjohn Guest

    Re: Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives

    Welcome to the club. :-)

    I have two NAS drives, a Metalgear 3207 and the Hawking HNAS1, neither work
    properly with Vista.

    The interesting thing is that I can actually use the Metalgear one with Vista if
    I don't browse to it with Windows Explorer! I use an alternate explorer, the
    2xExplorer, and it finds the drive and browses just fine. So, this is not just
    a networking issue, but rather something in the middle of Windows that seems to
    choke on some of these NAS products. The Hawking one will work if I map a
    network drive, but I can't browse to it with either Windows Explorer or
    2xExplorer, so it has a subtly different issue.

    I'm very disappointed that Vista broke so much network equipment, and didn't
    even provide an alternate configuration method to solve some of these issues.



    On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:36:11 +0100, Travis
    <Travis.2wjbhl@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

    >
    >Phill:
    >
    >Although my Western Digital MyBook World Edition is formatted in NTFS I
    >and (many, many) other folks are experiencing the exact same trauma as
    >you are trying to access it, particularly with the new Vista Backup
    >program.
    >
    >I have attempted most, but not all, of the fixes mentioned by Kerry,
    >but to no avail.
    >
    >The "Receive Window Auto Tuning" thing is a new one on me, which I'm a
    >bit dubious about, but at this point I'll try anything.
    >
    >The fact that no less than 5 of my clients, all with NAS drives which
    >worked flawlessly under XP Professional, now have the same nightmare to
    >deal with proves that something is Rotten in Denmark (or Redmond, as the
    >case may be).
    >
    >I'm usually not a chronic complainer and I don't mind doing hours or
    >research on a problem with Vista if it eventually bears fruit, but in
    >this instance I (and seemingly everybody else) have simply hit a brick
    >wall, which means in this case the problem is definitely not "BTKATC"
    >(Between The Keyboard And The Chair).
    >
    >Whether these drives run on Samba 1.0 or 3.0 Microsoft is obligated to
    >provide some sort of backward compatibility with them; expecting Western
    >Digital, Seagate, Buffalo, or Iomega to update the operating systems on
    >what was probably a fairly inexpensive drive to begin with is probably
    >not going to happen. The fact that they all worked just fine under XP
    >proves that it can't be too great a leap for MS to keep them in the
    >"technology loop" for Vista as well.
    >
    >Accordingly I don't think it's too much to ask that some real, live
    >Microsoft employees "get with the program" and give us some much-needed
    >and well-deserved tech support; I mean, it's not like we haven't tried
    >to help ourselves at this point.
    >
    >Well, here's hoping, anyway...
    John Will
    Microsoft MVP - Networking

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  4. #13


    thetaxwizard Guest

    Re: Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives


    I have been tearing the rest of my hair out over this issue and finally
    found a solution from another forum I frequent. It has something to
    with tightened network security in Vista. The solution is to loosen it
    up as in XP.

    Since I am currently at an XP machine, I can only tell you how to get
    to the setting via XP - if memory serves, the Vista avenue is the same

    1. Access the Security Policy editor - Start, run, secpol.msc
    2. Local Policy
    3. Security Options
    4. Scroll to Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication level
    5. The default, I believe, is "Send LM responses". Change it to: Send
    LM and NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated.

    Obviously I am not a Network Administrator, just a lowly tax
    accountant. Nevertheless, I wanted to pass this on to as many as I can.
    Once I made this change, VOILA! Access problems to my NAS were a thing
    of the past. Now, if they would only complicate the tax code some
    more......

    Bruce Tyler
    Lancaster, CA


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  5. #14


    Travis Guest

    Re: Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives


    Thanks for the input Mr Wizard, as we need all the help we can get.

    However and unfortunately, your possible solution is mentioned in
    several other places on this Forum and others, and was one of the first
    ones I tried, with absolutely no success; it has also proven equally
    fruitless on my clients' Vista / NAS drive scenarios, as well, so (as I
    think we all realize by now) it's not just unique to any one particular
    set-up.

    It does, however, make Vista work much better with XP clients on the
    same network, so it definitely has some value there.

    Please continue your efforts though, as we all are, to find a fix for
    this debilitating problem which each and every one of us face in trying
    to back up our Vista machines to a huge number of garden-variety NAS
    drives.

    The bad news seems to be that, despite all our attempts to find some
    kind of viable work-around, the ultimate solution lies with Microsoft
    getting off their backsides and fixing the code that's screwing all this
    up; it's an operating system bug (or oversight), plain and simple.


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  6. #15


    Thane Guest

    Re: Vista NAS Issue - FAT32 Network Drives

    I have the same problem. does make Vista loo a bit silly really !
    I've been through all the posts and seem MS does not really care about it
    (they want us to by MS home server and bin our NAS boxes).

    I'm very disapointed

    "Travis" wrote:

    >
    > Thanks for the input Mr Wizard, as we need all the help we can get.
    >
    > However and unfortunately, your possible solution is mentioned in
    > several other places on this Forum and others, and was one of the first
    > ones I tried, with absolutely no success; it has also proven equally
    > fruitless on my clients' Vista / NAS drive scenarios, as well, so (as I
    > think we all realize by now) it's not just unique to any one particular
    > set-up.
    >
    > It does, however, make Vista work much better with XP clients on the
    > same network, so it definitely has some value there.
    >
    > Please continue your efforts though, as we all are, to find a fix for
    > this debilitating problem which each and every one of us face in trying
    > to back up our Vista machines to a huge number of garden-variety NAS
    > drives.
    >
    > The bad news seems to be that, despite all our attempts to find some
    > kind of viable work-around, the ultimate solution lies with Microsoft
    > getting off their backsides and fixing the code that's screwing all this
    > up; it's an operating system bug (or oversight), plain and simple.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Travis
    > Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
    >
    >

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