Vista - Packet loss in regular intervals. (wlan?)

I've tried the gaming section, but really this belongs here:

Vista drops packet every minute or so. I can't confirm the exact time frame
but it happens in regular intervals. I've been told it's a WLAN issue.
Tried turning it off through cmd with admin rights, but it didn't solve the
problem. I also tried using a program called "Vista anti lag". also did not
solve the problem. so it doesn't seem to be a WLAN problem. But I'm not
entirely sure. searching resulted in many old posts, but they always ended
short because original posters stopped responding to helpers.

I'm running evga 680i mobo, Belkin wireless g usb (also have netgear pci
wireless g and linksys wireless g usb). Vista 32-bit.

superemu,

I'm sorry you're experiencing trouble. Differences in the networking
stack between XP and Vista have exposed a lot of router bugs which were
hitherto hidden.

Vista uses UPnP much more heavily than XP ever did, and we've found that a
lot of routers have suboptimal UPnP implementations, causing them to crash.

1. Does this happen on both a wired connection to the router AND a wireless
connection?

2. when Vista "loses" connection, does it come back automatically, or do you
have to reboot your router? Do the other xp machines also lose
connectivity?

3. If ONLY the vista machine loses connectivity, then there is an issue with
your vista machine. Make sure your drivers are all up to date. If
wireless, make sure you have the latest drivers for your card. Go to
linksys' website and verifiy that what you've got is the latest.

4. While you're there, make sure you have the latest firmware for your
router. We found a lot of bugs in router firmware during development, and
the vendors posted a lot of firmware updates.

5. Then, try running the router tool at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/usi...d/default.mspx, and see if it
passes the tests.

If we can narrow the issue down to your router, that is, that when Vista
loses connectivity ALL the machines (xp too) lose connectivity, then there
are some things worth trying:

A possible solution worth trying is to turn of UPnP. This can be done on
the router (you would have to log onto the routers config page, find out
where it has the UPnP on/off switch, and turn it off) or from the machine
itself.

You can also try disabling window scaling.

So, please try these out:

1. Go to the webtool, and when the test is finished, click on the "view
detailed report" link, and copy that data off & save it.
2. turn off UPnP, either on the router or on the vista machine:
from an elevated command prompt,type the following:
a. sc config SSDPSRV start= disabled
b. net stop ssdpsrv <or> reboot the system
3. Try your test again. If it still fails after some perioed of time, turn
off Window Scaling:
From an elevated command prompt, type the following:
a. netsh in tcp set gl auto=di
<no reboot required>

(from original post by KarlF).



"superemu" wrote:

> I've tried the gaming section, but really this belongs here:
>
> Vista drops packet every minute or so. I can't confirm the exact time frame
> but it happens in regular intervals. I've been told it's a WLAN issue.
> Tried turning it off through cmd with admin rights, but it didn't solve the
> problem. I also tried using a program called "Vista anti lag". also did not
> solve the problem. so it doesn't seem to be a WLAN problem. But I'm not
> entirely sure. searching resulted in many old posts, but they always ended
> short because original posters stopped responding to helpers.
>
> I'm running evga 680i mobo, Belkin wireless g usb (also have netgear pci
> wireless g and linksys wireless g usb). Vista 32-bit.

I would just like to say that I am experiencing the same issue. I have been using Vista for about 2 months now, and I just changed internet services due to ping instability and packetloss. Now that I have DSL, I noticed when I tested on XP I do not get any packetloss, but on Vista I consistantly get random timeouts. Now I'm wondering if I switched internet services just because of this horrible bug in Vista.

I have tried changing all of the options there are as far as the auto tuning and congestion features and nothing fixes it. It's ok, in about a year we'll have another new OS with new bugs to work on, lolz micro$oft

Edit: I've also tried being directly connected to my DSL modem with an ethernet cable., as well as wireless.

Here is my solution for those using VISTA 32bit and a LINKSYS WMP54G.

First, grab the Linksys WMP54G XP drivers from linksys.com. Yes, the XP drivers, not the Vista ones.
The card is based on Ralink technology - grab the Ralink Vista RT61 drivers from Ralink Technology: Windows (search the page for RT61 to find the one you have to get)

Now you have to uninstall your current Linksys drivers.
-Go to device manager (in control panel), right click your Linksys card, choose to uninstall, and check the box to delete all software or whatever
-Go to Control Panel, Programs and uninstall any Linksys entry.
-Go to C:\Program Files\ and delete any Linksys folders (OTHERWISE THEY WILL AUTO-REINSTALL)


Reboot (just in case. Might stick at the reboot screen for a long time, just let it do its thing.)
When Windows loads, if it asks you to search for drivers, tell it to ask later.


Install the Ralink drivers by running the EXE you downloaded.
Once installed, run the Linksys self-extracting EXE you downloaded.

When finished installing, reboot Windows again, just in case. Again, it might stick at the reboot screen for a long time, LET IT.

Upon Windows loading, it should ask you for drivers again. This time, point it to the Linksys drivers, specifically (if you extracted them to the default location) C:\Linksys Drivers\WMP54Gv4.1_20051117\Drivers\WMP54Gv4.1 (this may look different depending on what version WMP54G you have. Make sure you use the right version!)

You should now be set up for internet! Double click the new Ralink icon in your system tray, go to the Network tab, choose a network, choose Add to Profile and create a profile, then go to the Profile section, choose that profile and hit Activate.

If this doesn't give you internet, reboot and try again.


You should still be getting lag spikes.

Now download Vista Anti Lag (which for some reason only works with these XP drivers we just installed).
Vista Anti-Lag (VAL)

Install it. Run it. In Vista Anti Lag, click the Activate button.

***NOW YOU SHOULD NO LONGER GET LAG SPIKES DUE TO VISTA!!!***

To check:
Figure out an IP that is consistant, such as your ROUTER'S IP (for a linksys router this is 192.168.1.1 generally)
Go to Start, Run, type cmd, press enter
Type the following and press enter (where xxx is the IP you have chosen)
ping -t xxx


WATCH THIS LIST FOR AT LEAST 60 SECONDS!! You should constantly see good pings. If you see a sudden one with a really high number (like triple digits), your problems are still there. If not, all is fixed!