Vista - Frequently unable to get an IP via DHCP with Vista

My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.

I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
(hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
not to mention it's completely necessary.

When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
: unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."

I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
but I'm lost... any ideas?

--
-AC [MVP MCMS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog

AC,
Have you tried this ?

Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233

...winston

"AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
: My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
: with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
: certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
: DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
: Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
: virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
: have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.
:
: I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
: the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
: switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
: running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
: hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
: (hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
: not to mention it's completely necessary.
:
: When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
: get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
:: unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
:
: I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
: but I'm lost... any ideas?
:
: --
: -AC [MVP MCMS]
: http://www.andrewconnell.com
: http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
: http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog
:

Whoops forgot the other link(compliments of PChuck)
Scroll down and read the section under Windows XP and Vista on the lan together
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/search/label/Setup

...winston

"AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
: My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently...

This post may help too,

Vista: cannot obtain an IP address ...machines I have connected. Hi, I had exactly the same problem - have a look at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Fixed it for me straight away! ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...58226713d70efc


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.

I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
(hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
not to mention it's completely necessary.

When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
: unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."

I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
but I'm lost... any ideas?

--
-AC [MVP MCMS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog

Well, that KB helped, but no fix.

When I set it on my wireless NIC (along with the
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag=0 that was also present previously as =1), it was
able to get an IP, but not the DNS from my router (home network is setup to
use an internal DNS server that hands off unknowns to my ISP for some
internal stuff... works on all clients). Once i manually set the DNS, it
worked great (but obviously not ideal).

Unfortunately the wired NIC had no effect... kept ketting an internal
autoassigned IP (169...).

Any other ideas?

--
-AC [MVP MCMS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog



"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> This post may help too,
>
> Vista: cannot obtain an IP address ...machines I have connected. Hi, I had exactly the same problem - have a look at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Fixed it for me straight away! ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...58226713d70efc
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
> My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
> with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
> certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
> DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
> Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
> virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
> have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.
>
> I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
> the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
> switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
> running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
> hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
> (hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
> not to mention it's completely necessary.
>
> When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
> get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
> : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
>
> I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
> but I'm lost... any ideas?
>
> --
> -AC [MVP MCMS]
> http://www.andrewconnell.com
> http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
> http://www.andrewconnell

If that doesn't work, you may want to use static IP instead of DHCP.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:33E664B0-43F1-4043-B3C7-E4A2054D51CA@microsoft.com...
Well, that KB helped, but no fix.

When I set it on my wireless NIC (along with the
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag=0 that was also present previously as =1), it was
able to get an IP, but not the DNS from my router (home network is setup to
use an internal DNS server that hands off unknowns to my ISP for some
internal stuff... works on all clients). Once i manually set the DNS, it
worked great (but obviously not ideal).

Unfortunately the wired NIC had no effect... kept ketting an internal
autoassigned IP (169...).

Any other ideas?

--
-AC [MVP MCMS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog



"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> This post may help too,
>
> Vista: cannot obtain an IP address ...machines I have connected. Hi, I had exactly the same problem - have a look at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Fixed it for me straight away! ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...58226713d70efc
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
> My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
> with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
> certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
> DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
> Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
> virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
> have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.
>
> I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
> the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
> switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
> running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
> hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
> (hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
> not to mention it's completely necessary.
>
> When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
> get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
> : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
>
> I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
> but I'm lost... any ideas?
>
> --
> -AC [MVP MCMS]
> http://www.andrewconnell.com
> http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
> http://www.andrewconnell

Like I said, that works, but it completely not an option when you're in a
hotel/coffee shop. Pretty poor on Vista's if that's the only option availble
when all other clients have no problems.

--
-AC [MVP MOSS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog



"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> If that doesn't work, you may want to use static IP instead of DHCP.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:33E664B0-43F1-4043-B3C7-E4A2054D51CA@microsoft.com...
> Well, that KB helped, but no fix.
>
> When I set it on my wireless NIC (along with the
> DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag=0 that was also present previously as =1), it was
> able to get an IP, but not the DNS from my router (home network is setup to
> use an internal DNS server that hands off unknowns to my ISP for some
> internal stuff... works on all clients). Once i manually set the DNS, it
> worked great (but obviously not ideal).
>
> Unfortunately the wired NIC had no effect... kept ketting an internal
> autoassigned IP (169...).
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> --
> -AC [MVP MCMS]
> http://www.andrewconnell.com
> http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
> http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog
>
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > This post may help too,
> >
> > Vista: cannot obtain an IP address ...machines I have connected. Hi, I had exactly the same problem - have a look at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Fixed it for me straight away! ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...58226713d70efc
> >
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "AC [MVP MOSS]" <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95E33539-476A-4227-8659-8848DBA4AABC@microsoft.com...
> > My Vista Ultimate laptop is unable to get an IP via DHCP frequently... both
> > with my home router and when on the road in hotels, coffee shops, etc. I am
> > certain it's not the router for multiple reasons. My router issues IPs via
> > DHCP to multiple clients (Windows 2003, Windows XPPro, Windows XP MCE,
> > Windows 2000, Sony PSP, phones, Tivos... you name it) both physical or
> > virtualized clients. The ~only~ one that has an issue is my Vista laptop. I
> > have the same problem in MANY hotels, coffee shops, etc.
> >
> > I'm also fairly certain that it isn't hardware related. I ran WindowsXP on
> > the same laptop (Dell Latitude D820) with no problems for months before
> > switching to Vista. I can switch over to a virtual machine on the same laptop
> > running Windows 2003 and it has no problems in obtaining an IP (at home,
> > hotels, coffee shops). If I ever enter a static IP, it works instantly
> > (hotel, home, coffee shop).. problem is most places won't do this for you...
> > not to mention it's completely necessary.
> >
> > When I run a IPCONFIG /RENEW (or release followed by renew), here's what I
> > get: "An error occurred while renewing interface Wireless Network Connection
> > : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
> >
> > I'm lost. I'm running OneCare and have completely shut down the firewall...
> > but I'm lost... any ideas?
> >
> > --
> > -AC [MVP MCMS]
> > http://www.andrewconnell.com
> > http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
> > http://www.andrewconnell

Intel 3945 ?
have you tried newer/older drivers?
http://support.us.dell.com/support/d...&fileid=203417

I've seen multiple complaints and issues with the 3945. Sometimes a
different driver resolves issues.

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:28:03 -0700, AC [MVP MOSS]
<swamplander@gmail.com> wrote:

>Like I said, that works, but it completely not an option when you're in a
>hotel/coffee shop. Pretty poor on Vista's if that's the only option availble
>when all other clients have no problems.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Bingo... combination of the latest drivers and those two broadcast registry
tweaks fixed it for both the hardwired NIC and wireless NIC.

True test will be the hotel next week!
--
-AC [MVP MOSS]
http://www.andrewconnell.com
http://www.andrewconnell.com/mvp
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog



"Barb Bowman" wrote:

> Intel 3945 ?
> have you tried newer/older drivers?
> http://support.us.dell.com/support/d...&fileid=203417
>
> I've seen multiple complaints and issues with the 3945. Sometimes a
> different driver resolves issues.
>
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:28:03 -0700, AC [MVP MOSS]
> <swamplander@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Like I said, that works, but it completely not an option when you're in a
> >hotel/coffee shop. Pretty poor on Vista's if that's the only option availble
> >when all other clients have no problems.
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>

let us know here how things go.

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 05:32:03 -0700, AC [MVP MOSS]
<swamplander@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bingo... combination of the latest drivers and those two broadcast registry
>tweaks fixed it for both the hardwired NIC and wireless NIC.
>
>True test will be the hotel next week!
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/