Vista - How to create network connection in Vista

The computers in our classroom were converted to Vista and as part of our
networking class we're trying to learn how to create a network connection to
a website. So far I've been unsuccessful. Does anyone know how to do this
with Vista?

Here is a link that provides a possible answer but when I tried I got the
message you see below. First the link then the message:

Link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930085

Message after trying:

Windows confirmed that "66.35.3.5" is currently online, but is not
responding to connection attempts at this time.

This usually means that a firewall is running somewhere between the two
computers and is blocking "pptp". Windows has confirmed that Windows Firewall
on this computer is correctly configured to allow this connection. However, a
remote firewall might be blocking your connection.

If you have access to this firewall then configure the firewall to allow
connections through TCP port 1723. If you don't have access, contact your
network administrator or Internet service provider.

--
Technical School Student

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:00:01 -0700, student <student@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>The computers in our classroom were converted to Vista and as part of our
>networking class we're trying to learn how to create a network connection to
>a website. So far I've been unsuccessful. Does anyone know how to do this
>with Vista?
>
>Here is a link that provides a possible answer but when I tried I got the
>message you see below. First the link then the message:
>
>Link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930085
>
>Message after trying:
>
>Windows confirmed that "66.35.3.5" is currently online, but is not
>responding to connection attempts at this time.
>
>This usually means that a firewall is running somewhere between the two
>computers and is blocking "pptp". Windows has confirmed that Windows Firewall
>on this computer is correctly configured to allow this connection. However, a
>remote firewall might be blocking your connection.
>
>If you have access to this firewall then configure the firewall to allow
>connections through TCP port 1723. If you don't have access, contact your
>network administrator or Internet service provider.

What do you mean by "a network connection to a web site"? What type of network?
What type of connection? What type of web site?

The cited article KB930085 discusses a VPN problem. You typically use a VPN
when you have Internet service working already. Your error implies that your
Internet service is NOT working yet.

You say that "as part of our networking class we're trying to learn how to
create a network connection to a website". The implication here is that the
instructor is challenging you to do this? Or has the school blocked Internet
access, and you guys are trying to hack around the firewall?

Networking with Windows Vista, just like other operating systems, isn't all that
difficult - despite what all of the whiners here may make you think - when you
know what you're doing. If you stuff it up, though, you have to be patient and
work on the problems - one at a time.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

We'll work on this with you, but like you go to your doctor and tell him when
you've been smoking the naughty tobacco, because he needs to know the details to
diagnose your health problems, you're going to have to tell us the details about
what you're doing, so we can diagnose your network problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...useful-in.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

What type of network? - Windows Server 2003, Vista Business on client
What type of connection? - kind of like mapping a drive except it requires
me to log onto the connection
What type of web site? - Internet website outside firewall
What do you mean by "a network connection to a web site"? - this is much
easier to do with XP vs Vista. I need to make a network connection (much like
a mapping) to the Internet website in order to do website updates.

The only reason why I sited that article is because it's very difficult to
find the answer when I don't know exactly how to ask the question in the
first place.

I hope this helps answer your questions. Any suggestions other then go read
a book?

--
Technical School Student


"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:00:01 -0700, student <student@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The computers in our classroom were converted to Vista and as part of our
> >networking class we're trying to learn how to create a network connection to
> >a website. So far I've been unsuccessful. Does anyone know how to do this
> >with Vista?
> >
> >Here is a link that provides a possible answer but when I tried I got the
> >message you see below. First the link then the message:
> >
> >Link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930085
> >
> >Message after trying:
> >
> >Windows confirmed that "66.35.3.5" is currently online, but is not
> >responding to connection attempts at this time.
> >
> >This usually means that a firewall is running somewhere between the two
> >computers and is blocking "pptp". Windows has confirmed that Windows Firewall
> >on this computer is correctly configured to allow this connection. However, a
> >remote firewall might be blocking your connection.
> >
> >If you have access to this firewall then configure the firewall to allow
> >connections through TCP port 1723. If you don't have access, contact your
> >network administrator or Internet service provider.
>
> What do you mean by "a network connection to a web site"? What type of network?
> What type of connection? What type of web site?
>
> The cited article KB930085 discusses a VPN problem. You typically use a VPN
> when you have Internet service working already. Your error implies that your
> Internet service is NOT working yet.
>
> You say that "as part of our networking class we're trying to learn how to
> create a network connection to a website". The implication here is that the
> instructor is challenging you to do this? Or has the school blocked Internet
> access, and you guys are trying to hack around the firewall?
>
> Networking with Windows Vista, just like other operating systems, isn't all that
> difficult - despite what all of the whiners here may make you think - when you
> know what you're doing. If you stuff it up, though, you have to be patient and
> work on the problems - one at a time.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html
>
> We'll work on this with you, but like you go to your doctor and tell him when
> you've been smoking the naughty tobacco, because he needs to know the details to
> diagnose your health problems, you're going to have to tell us the details about
> what you're doing, so we can diagnose your network problems.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...useful-in.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:58:03 -0700, student <student@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>What type of network? - Windows Server 2003, Vista Business on client
>What type of connection? - kind of like mapping a drive except it requires
>me to log onto the connection
>What type of web site? - Internet website outside firewall
>What do you mean by "a network connection to a web site"? - this is much
>easier to do with XP vs Vista. I need to make a network connection (much like
>a mapping) to the Internet website in order to do website updates.
>
>The only reason why I sited that article is because it's very difficult to
>find the answer when I don't know exactly how to ask the question in the
>first place.
>
>I hope this helps answer your questions. Any suggestions other then go read
>a book?

Computer networking is a lot of fun, but it requires a lot of miscellaneous
knowledge. I'm not about to just tell you to go read a book, because next
you'll ask
"What book do you recommend?".
And right now, I don't know what the problem is, so how would I know what book
you should read?

I could refer you to my web site, but so far I don't see that you've read either
of the above cited articles. Or if you read them, you didn't see the point of
my writing them.

This isn't an interrogation, and you're not being asked purely for "name, rank,
and serial number" as a captured POW would be required to answer. You're going
to have to do the thinking here, because right now I don't know what your actual
problems are. All I know is that you are "trying to learn how to create a
network connection to a website", and so far you've "been unsuccessful".

Are you familiar with the OSI Layered Network structure?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

Now, I'll ask you to read my tutorial on troubleshooting an Internet
connectivity problem, as a starting point, and see if you can describe your
problem in terms of what I've written.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...t-service.html

And the other two articles are still relevant.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.