Vista Tutorial - Cannot tunnel into Remote Desktop

Hi, I've been using OpenSSH to tunnel into my home computer
(previously WinXP) for a while now, but since upgrading to Vista, I
can no longer do so. Here are the facts:

* I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443

* I'm using Bitvise Tunnelier to connect to the server

* I can ssh into the machine without problem and can also tunnel
through to a couple of IRC servers, so both the SSH server and
tunnelling appear to be working.

* Remote Desktop is listening on port 3389, and the local IP of the
computer I'm connecting to is 192.168.1.2

* I have forwarding setup like so:
Listen Interface: 127.0.0.1:3390
Destination Host: 192.168.1.2:3389

* On the RD Client side I'm connecting to localhost:3389. "Always ask
for credentials" is checked. "Always connect, even if authentication
fails" is selected. "Do not use a TS Gateway server" is checked.

When I try and connect, I get the following message:

This computer can't connect to the remote computer.
Try connecting again. If the problem continues, contact the owner of
the remote computer of your network administrator.

This is what I get in the Tunnelier log:

14:30:40.040 Accepted client-side client-2-server connection from
127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389.
14:30:41.041 Server rejected our attempt to open a client-side
client-2-server connection - reason: SSH_OPEN_CONNECT_FAILED,
description: Connection refused.
14:30:41.041 Closing client-side client-2-server connection from
127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389, sent: 0, received: 0.

Could anyone offer any help in troubleshooting this issue?

Many thanks,

Charles

<charlesroper@sussexwt.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1184593146.799755.119330@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, I've been using OpenSSH to tunnel into my home computer
> (previously WinXP) for a while now, but since upgrading to Vista, I
> can no longer do so. Here are the facts:
>
> * I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
> under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443
>
> * I'm using Bitvise Tunnelier to connect to the server
>
> * I can ssh into the machine without problem and can also tunnel
> through to a couple of IRC servers, so both the SSH server and
> tunnelling appear to be working.
>
> * Remote Desktop is listening on port 3389, and the local IP of the
> computer I'm connecting to is 192.168.1.2
>
> * I have forwarding setup like so:
> Listen Interface: 127.0.0.1:3390
> Destination Host: 192.168.1.2:3389
>
> * On the RD Client side I'm connecting to localhost:3389. "Always ask
> for credentials" is checked. "Always connect, even if authentication
> fails" is selected. "Do not use a TS Gateway server" is checked.
>
> When I try and connect, I get the following message:
>
> This computer can't connect to the remote computer.
> Try connecting again. If the problem continues, contact the owner of
> the remote computer of your network administrator.
>
> This is what I get in the Tunnelier log:
>
> 14:30:40.040 Accepted client-side client-2-server connection from
> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389.
> 14:30:41.041 Server rejected our attempt to open a client-side
> client-2-server connection - reason: SSH_OPEN_CONNECT_FAILED,
> description: Connection refused.
> 14:30:41.041 Closing client-side client-2-server connection from
> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389, sent: 0, received: 0.
>
> Could anyone offer any help in troubleshooting this issue?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Charles
>

Don't use TCP Port 3390 as the redirect port. Use another random port, ie.
3391 or higher, for the redirect port. There is an issue using 3390 as the
redirect port with Vista. I forget now the exact issue though...

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"Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> <charlesroper@sussexwt.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:1184593146.799755.119330@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi, I've been using OpenSSH to tunnel into my home computer
>> (previously WinXP) for a while now, but since upgrading to Vista, I
>> can no longer do so. Here are the facts:
>>
>> * I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
>> under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443
>>
>> * I'm using Bitvise Tunnelier to connect to the server
>>
>> * I can ssh into the machine without problem and can also tunnel
>> through to a couple of IRC servers, so both the SSH server and
>> tunnelling appear to be working.
>>
>> * Remote Desktop is listening on port 3389, and the local IP of the
>> computer I'm connecting to is 192.168.1.2
>>
>> * I have forwarding setup like so:
>> Listen Interface: 127.0.0.1:3390
>> Destination Host: 192.168.1.2:3389
>>
>> * On the RD Client side I'm connecting to localhost:3389. "Always ask
>> for credentials" is checked. "Always connect, even if authentication
>> fails" is selected. "Do not use a TS Gateway server" is checked.
>>
>> When I try and connect, I get the following message:
>>
>> This computer can't connect to the remote computer.
>> Try connecting again. If the problem continues, contact the owner of
>> the remote computer of your network administrator.
>>
>> This is what I get in the Tunnelier log:
>>
>> 14:30:40.040 Accepted client-side client-2-server connection from
>> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389.
>> 14:30:41.041 Server rejected our attempt to open a client-side
>> client-2-server connection - reason: SSH_OPEN_CONNECT_FAILED,
>> description: Connection refused.
>> 14:30:41.041 Closing client-side client-2-server connection from
>> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389, sent: 0, received: 0.
>>
>> Could anyone offer any help in troubleshooting this issue?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>
> Don't use TCP Port 3390 as the redirect port. Use another random port, ie.
> 3391 or higher, for the redirect port. There is an issue using 3390 as the
> redirect port with Vista. I forget now the exact issue though...
>
> --
>
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> mutual benefit of all of us...
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> http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
>

Actually its the RDP 6.0 client that has an issue with using port 3390 as
the localhost listening port.

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"Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:0088B662-57AE-4FD9-BECF-C4E393481C45@microsoft.com...
> <charlesroper@sussexwt.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:1184593146.799755.119330@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi, I've been using OpenSSH to tunnel into my home computer
>> (previously WinXP) for a while now, but since upgrading to Vista, I
>> can no longer do so. Here are the facts:
>>
>> * I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
>> under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443
>>
>> * I'm using Bitvise Tunnelier to connect to the server
>>
>> * I can ssh into the machine without problem and can also tunnel
>> through to a couple of IRC servers, so both the SSH server and
>> tunnelling appear to be working.
>>
>> * Remote Desktop is listening on port 3389, and the local IP of the
>> computer I'm connecting to is 192.168.1.2
>>
>> * I have forwarding setup like so:
>> Listen Interface: 127.0.0.1:3390
>> Destination Host: 192.168.1.2:3389
>>
>> * On the RD Client side I'm connecting to localhost:3389. "Always ask
>> for credentials" is checked. "Always connect, even if authentication
>> fails" is selected. "Do not use a TS Gateway server" is checked.
>>
>> When I try and connect, I get the following message:
>>
>> This computer can't connect to the remote computer.
>> Try connecting again. If the problem continues, contact the owner of
>> the remote computer of your network administrator.
>>
>> This is what I get in the Tunnelier log:
>>
>> 14:30:40.040 Accepted client-side client-2-server connection from
>> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389.
>> 14:30:41.041 Server rejected our attempt to open a client-side
>> client-2-server connection - reason: SSH_OPEN_CONNECT_FAILED,
>> description: Connection refused.
>> 14:30:41.041 Closing client-side client-2-server connection from
>> 127.0.0.1:2255 to 192.168.1.2:3389, sent: 0, received: 0.
>>
>> Could anyone offer any help in troubleshooting this issue?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>
> Don't use TCP Port 3390 as the redirect port. Use another random port, ie.
> 3391 or higher, for the redirect port. There is an issue using 3390 as the
> redirect port with Vista. I forget now the exact issue though...
>
> --
>
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> mutual benefit of all of us...
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>

Also make sure the Vista RDP host is configured like this...

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...rverConfig.jpg

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> > Don't use TCP Port 3390 as the redirect port. Use another random port, ie.
> > 3391 or higher, for the redirect port. There is an issue using 3390 as the
> > redirect port with Vista. I forget now the exact issue though...

> Also make sure the Vista RDP host is configured like this...
>
> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...P6-XPClienttoV...

Thank you for the advice. I've tried changing the listening port to
4000 but I'm still getting the same error. I'll have to wait until I
get home to check the other setting. I'll let you know how I get on by
posting back here.

Cheers,
Charles

On Jul 16, 2:39 pm, charlesro...@sussexwt.org.uk wrote:
> * I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
> under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443

The clue was in the Windows version: Vista Home Premium doesn't have
full remote desktop connections. :-(

I'm now going to try UltraVNC instead. The mirror driver (video hook
driver) didn't work too well for it as it knocked our Aero Glass, but
other than that, it seems like it might make an adequate alternative.

Charles

"Charles Roper" <charles.roper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 16, 2:39 pm, charlesro...@sussexwt.org.uk wrote:
>> * I have OpenSSH (OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007) setup
>> under Cygwin on a Vista Home Premium machine listening on 443
>
> The clue was in the Windows version: Vista Home Premium doesn't have
> full remote desktop connections. :-(
>
> I'm now going to try UltraVNC instead. The mirror driver (video hook
> driver) didn't work too well for it as it knocked our Aero Glass, but
> other than that, it seems like it might make an adequate alternative.
>
> Charles
>

I missed that completely...

Thanks for the feed back...

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On 17 Jul, 11:11, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <Soone...@somewhere.net.invalid>
wrote:
> > I'm now going to try UltraVNC instead. The mirror driver (video hook
> > driver) didn't work too well for it as it knocked our Aero Glass, but
> > other than that, it seems like it might make an adequate alternative.

Well, I've got UltraVNC working on the tunnel, but boy is it slow
compared to RD. I'm really starting to regret 'upgrading' to Vista
Home Premium now; I could go with Ultimate, I know, but it's so
expensive. :-/

Charles

<charlesroper@sussexwt.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 17 Jul, 11:11, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <Soone...@somewhere.net.invalid>
> wrote:
>> > I'm now going to try UltraVNC instead. The mirror driver (video hook
>> > driver) didn't work too well for it as it knocked our Aero Glass, but
>> > other than that, it seems like it might make an adequate alternative.
>
> Well, I've got UltraVNC working on the tunnel, but boy is it slow
> compared to RD. I'm really starting to regret 'upgrading' to Vista
> Home Premium now; I could go with Ultimate, I know, but it's so
> expensive. :-/
>
> Charles
>
>

That has been my experience in the past also, ie. VNC (any flavor) was a lot
slower than Remote Desktop.

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On Jul 17, 12:07 pm, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
<Soone...@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote:
> That has been my experience in the past also, ie. VNC (any flavor) was a lot
> slower than Remote Desktop.

When I used to use UltraVNC on XP before I used Remote Desktop, and I
had its video hook driver installed, it was pretty good, although
still not quite as fast as RD. Now without the video hook driver, it
really grinds.

Has anyone else got UltraVNC going on Vista with the video hook driver
AND Aero?

Cheers,
Charles